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slo5oh
01-30-2010, 9:35 PM
At ~$600+ it will take a while to save that much in ammo, but when I'm blowing through 200 to 300 rounds every time I go to the range, perhaps not...
So, who's using them? Thoughts? Advice?
Is there anyone else besides S&W making them? If so, who?

Josh3239
01-30-2010, 10:11 PM
S&W or M1S

1988
01-30-2010, 10:51 PM
S&W, M1S, and OA. However, I believe that OA no longer make them.

It's fun just like 223, but less kicking than 5.56. You just have to be religious about cleaning.

Forget about precision shooting. There's no match ammo, no brass case for reload, no match grade barrel.

CRTguns
01-30-2010, 11:13 PM
Dude.. are you kidding? ammo cost is wayyyy huge savings. 5.45 is less that $3 for a box of 20 rounds. That's about 60% cost savings.

A freind of mine in the USA has, and says a few of his shooting buddies have all traded the .223 upper on registered class three guns for 5.45 uppers. 1/4-1/3 the cost for ammo- 90% the same target effect... why not 5.45?

aplinker
01-31-2010, 1:32 AM
If you will use enough ammo to cover the cost in a year, why wouldn't you buy it?

The ONLY hitch is 99% of the 5.45 ammo is steel jacketed. This means it's a no-go at my local ranges.

caldude
01-31-2010, 9:00 AM
I've got one from S&W and it works fine. Don't expect great accuracy with surplus ammo, but it'll work fine as a fun/plinking gun, and a whole lot cheaper to shoot.

The only issue I had was the first upper I received had terrible parkerizing on the barrel - it was thin or missing in several spots. I sent that back, and the dealer had to go through several before finding one without a parkerizing issue.

NapaCountyShooter
01-31-2010, 9:28 AM
I have a couple questions about these too.
What buffer do you use with it? I've read on ARF that the heavier buffers work best.
I live in the North Bay Area, what ranges do or do not accept milsurp ammo?
Magazines: The general consensus seems to be the c-products mags, anyone have success with anything else?

pistolero805
01-31-2010, 9:39 AM
I have one and it works great. Ammo can be had for about $150 per 1080 rds. I have read that G.I. mags work as well, but I don't have a featureless build so I havenr tried.

My375hp302
01-31-2010, 9:43 AM
150 is a bit much unless you are counting shipping... look here

http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=5.45x39

TurboAR
01-31-2010, 9:57 AM
Who's got the best price on one of these 5.45x39 AR uppers. Seems like 599.00 is the lowest.
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/products_id/2805

Hk996
01-31-2010, 9:57 AM
I bought one last year (SW upper) so I can use it when I go desert shooting. See back in the day when you could go to angeles crest highway to shoot... there was a lot of rapid fire and stuff while shooting. Back then 7.62x39 was about $125 per 1000 and 223 was $200 per 1600 (norinco on sale).

I will use it when I go to Arizona to shoot, because now it is hard to justify shooting 5.45x45 at $7-$12 a box! Needless to say... 310-350 shipped is what I have been spending for 2160 rounds. Sure... its corrosive and steel cased, but I have regular uppers for local ranges.

Burro allows it right now... though, I when I was there, I was able to shoot it, and it is fine for steel out to 100yrds for sure. So, accuracy is very acceptable.

Super Spy
01-31-2010, 10:06 AM
Why not just buy a Saiga in 5.45? Way cheaper than buying an upper, and FA isn't going to happen in this state, even after incorporation.

Standard
01-31-2010, 10:23 AM
Loved my 5.45 AR, it was very accurate (iron sights) and fun as hell to shoot with the cheap ammo.
I sold it to a buddy of mine to finance the purchase of an XCR, which will someday be available to swap to 5.45 as well!

BroncoBob
01-31-2010, 10:28 AM
I have a dedicated S&W MP-15R rifle just for the 5.45. Had to switch to a little heavier trigger spring in my Timney FCG to fire the surplus ammo. Had Dave at Riflegear convert a couple 30 rd mag repair kits to 10/30rd. He now carries the 10/30rd mags in his inventory.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk75/223Bob/MVC-019F-7.jpg

caldude
01-31-2010, 8:30 PM
I have a couple questions about these too.
What buffer do you use with it? I've read on ARF that the heavier buffers work best.
I live in the North Bay Area, what ranges do or do not accept milsurp ammo?
Magazines: The general consensus seems to be the c-products mags, anyone have success with anything else?

I used the buffer that came with my commercial buffer tube. Haven't had any problems yet, but I've only shot about 100 rounds so far. I've used 2 C Products mags with .223 followers, and C Products 10/30 5.45 mag. I haven't had issues with any mags yet.

I generally shoot at Livermore, and they don't have any problems with milsurp ammo.

NapaCountyShooter
01-31-2010, 8:36 PM
I used the buffer that came with my commercial buffer tube. Haven't had any problems yet, but I've only shot about 100 rounds so far. I've used 2 C Products mags with .223 followers, and C Products 10/30 5.45 mag. I haven't had issues with any mags yet.

I generally shoot at Livermore, and they don't have any problems with milsurp ammo.

Thanks, that answers a lot. Do you use the extra strength hammer spring?

aplinker
01-31-2010, 10:35 PM
Why not just buy a Saiga in 5.45? Way cheaper than buying an upper, and FA isn't going to happen in this state, even after incorporation.

You could, but then you're defeating the purpose of an alternate upper to use on your AR for cost savings on ammo.

technique
02-01-2010, 5:02 AM
I used a 5.45 upper for a while. It was cool. I ended up selling it.
I got a 5.45 AK instead with that money.

With a 5.56 AR, I almost never clean and still run fine.
With the 5.45, I had to clean after every session. Unfortunately, not all ammo labeled "non-corrosive" ...is actually non-corrosive. This sucked in an AR platform. An AK gas tube is a lot easier to clean.

I bought a Halo thinking I could use it for my AK 5.45 and AR 5.56....I should have just bought a G5 instead because I will never put that on any gun that fires corrosive ammo.

To each their own. If you can find the time to put the effort in and clean after every session, good for you. If you find it worth the savings, more power to ya!