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okimreloaded
01-17-2010, 10:10 PM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/rhino_revolver-tfb.jpg

Tarn_Helm
01-17-2010, 10:13 PM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/rhino_revolver-tfb.jpg

Caliber?

Country of origin?

Still made?

Any other details?
:)

armygunsmith
01-17-2010, 10:15 PM
Rhino revolver.
http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/55

El Gato
01-17-2010, 10:15 PM
Check out the link...

http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/55

slik556
01-17-2010, 10:16 PM
Chiappa Rhino Revolver

Italian firearms manufacturer Armi Chiappa have developed a very cool looking .357 Magnum snubnosed revolver called the Chiappa Rhino Revolver.

hellraiser
01-17-2010, 10:22 PM
pretty slick!!!!

okimreloaded
01-17-2010, 10:36 PM
sorry for not giving the dets. It looks sick. There's some magic done with the bore axis. *I think lower*, plus it looks sick as hell. It's new, not on the roster yet and don't know if it ever will be. This same company makes a .22 1911 for 300 bucks.

Seesm
01-17-2010, 10:38 PM
So not Cali legal yet huh? Soo sad.

Grumpyoldretiredcop
01-17-2010, 10:42 PM
Interesting - looks like an adaptation of the Mateba Autorevolver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba_Autorevolver) design.

trapshot68
01-17-2010, 10:43 PM
^^funny, the Mateba popped into my head when I saw the OP.

cineski
01-17-2010, 10:55 PM
How many firearm manufacturers are there in the world? A new one pops up every other day!

1JimMarch
01-17-2010, 11:31 PM
Armi Chiappa has a decent rep as an up-and-comer in old west reproduction guns - their Winchester '92 clones are pretty nice as is the handgun version with a 12" barrel and no stock (Serenity?).

This thing is from the same designer as the Mateba. It fires out of the bottom cylinder chamber, not top. Less muzzle flip.

5150bronco
01-17-2010, 11:46 PM
that looks like a little firecracker that would pop out of the hand. nice looking though.

jd1911
01-17-2010, 11:49 PM
To tell you the truth, I would buy that if it ever became california legal

Eddie1965
01-17-2010, 11:57 PM
NICE

okimreloaded
01-18-2010, 1:10 AM
Both guns, the Mateba auto revolver and the Rhino were designed by Emilio Ghisoni.

aznanimekid
01-18-2010, 2:11 AM
sweet, i always wanted a mateba. reincarnation is awesome

1JimMarch
01-18-2010, 2:37 AM
reincarnation is awesome

I wonder if Emilio Ghisoni (RIP) feels that way.

Joe
01-18-2010, 2:43 AM
so you guys think glocks are ugly but think that looks awesome? :willy_nilly:

ugly

okimreloaded
01-18-2010, 9:07 AM
I think glocks look awesome too!

DNA
01-19-2010, 2:56 AM
'where can i buy?

Dan

zod
01-19-2010, 9:00 PM
Gotta admit, I'm hooked.

Mister BLASTEE
01-19-2010, 9:10 PM
Is thier 22lr 1911 CA legal??

pTa
01-19-2010, 9:15 PM
they both fire fom the 6'0clock chamber,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/MatebaAutoRevolver6in.jpg/300px-MatebaAutoRevolver6in.jpg
was the Mateba an automatic revolver?

freonr22
01-19-2010, 9:21 PM
I dont honestly understand the point of this/this type of gun 2 1/2" barrel larger caliber... cant hit the broadside of a face/head/barn gun

pTa
01-19-2010, 9:23 PM
plus it makes the Mateba look elegant... that's saying someting

zod
01-19-2010, 9:36 PM
The Mateba reminds me of ROBOCOP for some reason.

Bruce
01-20-2010, 7:17 AM
These look like an interesting concept.
http://www.gunblast.com/SHOT_2010_1.htm
(6th photo down on the right)

coop44
01-20-2010, 8:13 AM
I dont honestly understand the point of this/this type of gun 2 1/2" barrel larger caliber... cant hit the broadside of a face/head/barn gun

Maybe built for suicide? Honestly I wouldn't touch that pos with a stick.

Turo
01-20-2010, 8:33 AM
If they make one in .357mag, I'm in!

lazs
01-20-2010, 2:54 PM
I think that for a J frame size the idea would be great. any of you who have shot j frames much know how they recoil.. getting the axis of the bore more in line with your hand has to be good. .357 would be nice.

sorry.. glocks really are ugly... they function nice tho but they are so ugly I have never been tempted to own one. I would buy this revolver tho in a snubby j frame .357

I would not laugh at 1 1/2-3" revolvers for accuracy.. you might be real surprised if you shot one at 50 yards or so. 5 gallon bucket at 100 yards is not that tough.

turbochris
01-20-2010, 3:07 PM
looks crazy I like it

IDPA4U
01-20-2010, 9:49 PM
Handled three different models today. Double action is very smooth and the single action is set by pulling back the "hammer" which then returns to a rested position but the actual hammer (lower in the frame) is cocked for a crisp single action. The snub will be the first model released but the barrels are interchangeable. They also said it would be submitted for CA testing...

tac
01-20-2010, 10:37 PM
This pretty need.

WTB "Chiappa Rhino Revolver" now :=)

Turo
01-20-2010, 10:39 PM
Handled three different models today. Double action is very smooth and the single action is set by pulling back the "hammer" which then returns to a rested position but the actual hammer (lower in the frame) is cocked for a crisp single action. The snub will be the first model released but the barrels are interchangeable. They also said it would be submitted for CA testing...

Sounds great!

ElvenSoul
01-20-2010, 10:56 PM
I would buy it and load it with .38 Specials.

tonelar
01-21-2010, 12:14 AM
was the Mateba an automatic revolver?
The Mateba is a semi-auto revolver.
If they make one in .357mag, I'm in!
http://www.gunblast.com/images/SHOT2010/Day1/Thumbs/DSC09270.jpg
That's what they are, Turo. .357mag... the snubby looks better to me.
I would buy it and load it with .38 Specials.
http://www.chiappafirearms.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_alternative_view/productsalt/rhino_steel.jpg
I'd shoot it in .357 first... if it handles them fine (meaning quick follow up shots, etc)... why bother with .38s?

Turo
01-21-2010, 12:26 AM
That's what they are, Turo. .357mag... the snubby looks better to me.

Yeah, I saw that after I posted. And a +1 from me on the snub, looks like a great ccw gun, manageable recoil with full power rounds.

El Gato
01-21-2010, 12:28 AM
I dont honestly understand the point of this/this type of gun 2 1/2" barrel larger caliber... cant hit the broadside of a face/head/barn gun

you would obviously be flabbergasted as all get out to shoot against some of my clients for beer money... you better bring your cash...I've seen a guy with a 2 in Det. spl...out shoot custom PPC revolver shooters in side matches... It's all about finding an accurate load for the gun and the proper applicatioin of sight alignment and trigger press... as in don't move the freaking revolver when you press the trigger... lots of old guys are pretty good at that... had a 93 yr old on the range sat. for class... outshoot the other 15 people...period...no questions asked...with a 40 yr. old browning hi power with mini sights on it to...old guy know stuff and can do interesting stuff with 2 in revolvers... esp. good ones....

BigRich
01-21-2010, 1:34 AM
Some of those old guys have been shooting for a very long time. As the saying goes, practice makes perfect.

lazs
01-21-2010, 10:06 AM
The reason most people can't shoot short barreled revolvers well is because they think they can't or because the closest they have come to shooting one was seeing one on TV.

tonelar
01-21-2010, 5:55 PM
the one thing puzzling me is the claim the mfg will make longer replacement barrels available... while the long and short barrel versions don't look modular to me.

As far as shooting a snubby accurately, some people can't hit the broad side of a barn with a 5" barrel. To each their own. I have a no lock 642 S&W that I LOVE carrying. I've been able to consistently knock a beer can around at a dozen yards with it. The other day, I had 6 soda cans at 40 yards and it took the better part of a 15 rnd mag in my 228 to get them knocked down.

Some days, I'm better than others.

lazs
01-22-2010, 10:25 AM
I can hit better with a snubby than I can with any plastic pistol.. it is mostly mindset and practice.

El Gato
01-26-2010, 11:11 AM
saw the gun at SHOT...
interesting...really...kinda neat
interesting action..
the 6 in gun is kinda cool too...
in a short gun, would solve some of the barrel whip of the high power loads in the magnum...
It left me intrigued...
but then again, I liked the mateba just never bought one.. one of my clients has a couple.. very cool semi-auto revolvers...
the Rhino is double action and well.. interesting...

El Gato
01-26-2010, 11:13 AM
The reason most people can't shoot short barreled revolvers well is because they think they can't or because the closest they have come to shooting one was seeing one on TV.

+1...
and they are difficult to shoot...more of an experts gun... and experts can do really well

lazs
01-27-2010, 9:06 AM
I am no expert but... we all played around with j frame snubbies and the, then new... charter arms teensy guns. We were young and hadn't had anyone tell us that the little guns were inaccurate.. we were shooting at 5 gallon buckets at about 100 yards and made fun of anyone who couldn't hit the thing.

gun toting monkeyboy
01-27-2010, 12:33 PM
Does anybody have an idea on the expected price range? Are we talking fiat, or ferrarri here? If it is on par with a Glock, or S&W M&P, I'll buy one. If it is more than a decent AR with optics, forget it.

Demontweak
01-27-2010, 5:02 PM
says here about $800 for 2" model.
Little pricy for snub nose!


http://dailygunpictures.blogspot.com/2009/11/chiappa-rhino-revolver-direct-from.html

bertdigity
07-18-2010, 7:06 PM
even if its in the pricey side id still get it. the recoil for the snub firing a .357 isnt that much. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOIx5ustWEs

bombadillo
07-27-2010, 1:05 PM
I think that its a pretty darn cool little gun. People pay 700+ for a smith j frame with CTG's on them and this is a really cool new design that potentially could have a lot of the issues women have with small handguns figured out. Gotta love the innovators.

bertdigity
07-28-2010, 5:09 PM
I'm lovin how the 2" looks but i still got eyes for the 5" (like my profile avatar)

CalNRA
07-28-2010, 5:27 PM
as in don't move the freaking revolver when you press the trigger... lots of old guys are pretty good at that...

yeah, I agree.

I am new to snub revolvers but my SW 38 airweight with 1 7/8 inch barrel is very accurate even out to 20 yards.

applevalleyjoe
07-28-2010, 6:12 PM
pretty slick!!!!


Thought you said "pretty SICK!" I was going to agree with you. Can you imagine trying to control a 357 with such a crappy grip and stubby barrel??

Ed_Hazard
07-28-2010, 6:24 PM
Would get 2 myself.

Attiic
07-29-2010, 12:36 AM
Holy crow I'm in love.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/LtAttiic/DOWANT.jpg

gorenut
07-29-2010, 8:41 AM
so you guys think glocks are ugly but think that looks awesome? :willy_nilly:

ugly

Though I don't think Glocks are ugly, they leave very little to the imagination. I think these Rhinos are so "ugly" and unique looking that they become pretty awesome looking again... definitely a niche market.

I saw these things about a month ago and immediately became interested. Only things that'd really hold me back is that they don't have a proven track record for this gun specifically yet and thats pretty important to me in a firearm.. even moreso when I'm expecting the kind of durability/reliability of a revolver - also, the price is pretty steep. I'll give it a year or two if they ever make it CA legal before even getting excited about it.

Joser23
07-29-2010, 8:44 AM
that looks badass!

lazs
07-29-2010, 8:47 AM
I am one who knows glocks are ugly but think that gun doesn't look too bad. I bet it feels like a real gun in the hand instead of melted down tupperware too.

I think the idea of the gun is a good one. I have no idea if the execution is a good one. I would seriously be interested in a Ruger or Smith and Wesson version of the same idea.

bertdigity
08-19-2010, 7:44 AM
Holy crow I'm in love.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/LtAttiic/DOWANT.jpg

I KNOW RIGHT?! That exact 5" is what i'm getting if/when it becomes available to us here in cali.

Barabas
08-19-2010, 10:55 AM
I'm not much of a revolver guy thanks to previous poor experiences, but this one has me intrigued. I'll be keeping my eyes open for one.

cadjak
08-20-2010, 10:28 AM
Their website says that they plan on producing these in .40 s&w, and 9mm. The "weird" factor is going to sell a lot of these when they finally show in the U.S. market. I have my pre-order in for their Amy Winehouse commemorative model.

uzigalil
08-20-2010, 10:37 AM
I spoke to a person at the chiappa booth and handled all models, they said that they were designed by the guy who designed the Mateba, who has passed away now.

bertdigity
08-20-2010, 1:07 PM
Wow, where were you able to see them?


I spoke to a person at the chiappa booth and handled all models, they said that they were designed by the guy who designed the Mateba, who has passed away now.

Barabas
08-20-2010, 1:45 PM
Yeah, I've made up my mind. I want the snubbie for my house gun.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=65958&d=1282325834

scarville
09-08-2010, 1:11 PM
Sure it looks unusual but so did a Glock in 1982. Frankly putting the barrel directly in line with the forearm looks like a good idea for better control under recoil.

Grant Cunningham just received one (http://www.grantcunningham.com/blog_files/b677e02d6dfbb4da4258bd76b10b25df-743.html#unique-entry-id-743) to review for Conceal Carry Magazine. I'm going to wait and see how well it shoots.

cadjak
09-08-2010, 2:13 PM
O217lS2kVRk rapid fire 125gr .357 factory loads

gorenut
09-08-2010, 2:35 PM
Thats awesome. I really want one now. I just hope they have excellent make and durability. Originally I wanted a 6" in stainless.. but the more I look at em, the more attractive the black ones in 4" or smaller are becoming to me.

cadjak
09-08-2010, 2:58 PM
There is a come-and-shoot-it release party for this revolver being done by a group in MA. http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/09/robert-farago/the-truth-about-guns-invites-you-to-test-fire-the-new-chiappa-rhino/
So, I emailed the pres. of the company that will be the U.S. distributor for these guns, and suggested that they sponsor similar events around the country. The one in California may have to be done at 1:30am, at a secret range, and participants will be only text messaged the exact location an hour before it happens.

Blood Ocean
09-08-2010, 3:22 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like the "barrel" is just a mounted extension on the built-in 2" nub? This would be an excellent idea so you could have a 6" for home/recreation and then just take it off for CCW. Someone find out for me.

scarville
09-08-2010, 3:22 PM
That video is impressive. Now I'm really intrigued.

gorenut
09-08-2010, 3:40 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like the "barrel" is just a mounted extension on the built-in 2" nub? This would be an excellent idea so you could have a 6" for home/recreation and then just take it off for CCW. Someone find out for me.

I don't think thats the case for regular Joes like us. Maybe it was designed that way to make it cheaper to produce for the company.. sort or a modular design. I'm sure the barrel itself is permanent. Could be wrong. Just my guess since on the site, it only mentions them selling various sizes as is. A feature like removable barrels would be advertised the hell out of if their gun featured it.

gorenut
09-08-2010, 3:41 PM
There is a come-and-shoot-it release party for this revolver being done by a group in MA. http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/09/robert-farago/the-truth-about-guns-invites-you-to-test-fire-the-new-chiappa-rhino/
So, I emailed the pres. of the company that will be the U.S. distributor for these guns, and suggested that they sponsor similar events around the country. The one in California may have to be done at 1:30am, at a secret range, and participants will be only text messaged the exact location an hour before it happens.

Hopefully closer to Orange County, haha. I'd totally be down for that.

Cyc Wid It
09-08-2010, 3:56 PM
Am I the only one that thinks this thing is hideous?

cadjak
09-08-2010, 4:02 PM
Am I the only one that thinks this thing is hideous?
And, some people think Amy Winehouse is the sexiest woman around. It'd be a boring world if we all agreed on everything.http://dailygab.com/files/2009/11/amy-winehouse1.jpg

TurboChrisB
09-08-2010, 5:34 PM
I like it!

BigRich
09-08-2010, 6:06 PM
The barrel on my Mateba 357mag is a 4 inch and it can be removed from the frame by unscrewing the retaining nut that tensions it. You can also set the barrel cylinder gap this way. I wonder if the Rhino follows this design? I can vouch for the low bore line and it's effect on muzzle rise. It is very easy to shoot fast and accurately. It is a rather complicated mechanism which I have no desire to take apart and explore. Mine is ammo sensitive and needed a "wadcutter spring" (according to the gun designer) in order to function reliably using 38 special loads. It was a common enough problem that when I mentioned it at their booth at a SHOT show the guy just pulled one out of his pocket and said "This is what you need." He also warned that shooting magnum loads with this spring in the gun would cause battering right away.

scarville
09-08-2010, 6:27 PM
And, some people think Amy Winehouse is the sexiest woman around. It'd be a boring world if we all agreed on everything.
You mean that's a woman?

Jeez! I gotta get out more

dhawkins
11-03-2010, 9:24 AM
Have a lot of interest in this little guy in .357, 9mm and .40. 2.5" barrell would be cool. Anyone have an idea as to how/when it might be added to the roster?

On a related note, I love shooting my S&W 327 PC 2" 8/ shot. Total hoot and yes, I can hit the backside of the barn.

cadjak
11-03-2010, 12:44 PM
Here's a range report, posted yesterday, over on the Keltec forum, by someone who actually had a chance to fire a Chiappa.

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1288708505/7


More over on The High Road forum;
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=546010

scarville
11-03-2010, 1:28 PM
The more I look at it, the more I think I want two -- once for each hand.

jumpthestack
11-04-2010, 10:13 AM
Revolver smith Grant Cunningham has a series of blog posts on the Rhino's internals.

http://grantcunningham.com/blog_files/tag-rhino.revolver.html

gorenut
11-04-2010, 10:22 AM
Revolver smith Grant Cunningham has a series of blog posts on the Rhino's internals.

http://grantcunningham.com/blog_files/tag-rhino.revolver.html

Wow, thats really neat, thanks for the post.

ryball
11-10-2010, 9:02 PM
Another page with a little better pictures of the interchangeable barrel.

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/2010/01/21/chiappa-rhino-revolvers/

It doesn't look to me like the snub is interchangeable like the 4", 5", or 6"

winnre
11-18-2010, 3:53 PM
So when do we get this beauty?


http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/chiappa-rhino-357-mag-c.jpg

grim1U
11-18-2010, 9:23 PM
I dont honestly understand the point of this/this type of gun 2 1/2" barrel larger caliber... cant hit the broadside of a face/head/barn gun

Really, I find snub nose revolvers to be very accurate, they just kick a bit. Which is why this concept has merit.

1911Operator
11-18-2010, 9:37 PM
To tell you the truth, I would buy that if it ever became california legal

:thumbsup:

mswanson223
11-18-2010, 9:42 PM
personally, I think its ugly.

jessegpresley
11-19-2010, 12:01 AM
I want the special edition DAO. Real wood grips and comes with a holster.

http://thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/IMG_2398.jpg

Cyc Wid It
11-19-2010, 12:24 AM
If it comes down to the "zombies" eating me, or me using this gun, I'll take my chances as an undead.

grim1U
11-19-2010, 6:02 AM
If it comes down to the "zombies" eating me, or me using this gun, I'll take my chances as an undead.

:rolleyes: I don't base guns soley on the :cool2: factor. If I need it and it works, it'll get used.

jidokenju
11-19-2010, 6:10 AM
So if you pull back on the "hammer" and it goes back to where it was (but cocking the real, unseen hammer) for single action, how do you lower the hammer safely? Is there a decocker or something?

FredoSD
11-19-2010, 6:58 AM
so you guys think glocks are ugly but think that looks awesome? :willy_nilly:

ugly

You're half right. I think both are fugly as all get out. With that said I would own either or both in a heart beat.

akamaru
11-19-2010, 7:03 AM
they both fire fom the 6'0clock chamber,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/MatebaAutoRevolver6in.jpg/300px-MatebaAutoRevolver6in.jpg
was the Mateba an automatic revolver?

It's DA/SA. Pretty fine weapon. Tried one out from a member in .357. Feels like a compensated race gun but with a heavier 4-5 pound trigger.

dascoyne
11-19-2010, 7:30 AM
Mateba is ugly to my eye
but the 2" Rhino looks nice
I would buy one in a heartbeat

grim1U
11-19-2010, 8:31 AM
Mateba is ugly to my eye
but the 2" Rhino looks nice
I would buy one in a heartbeat

I'm really digging the 3" Rhino, hmmm:p

biofire
11-19-2010, 9:07 AM
Grant Cunningham has done an extensive series on how this revolver works:

http://www.grantcunningham.com/blog_files/c6c4b7f020ba5750b043203728f917cb-774.html

jessegpresley
11-19-2010, 11:40 AM
So if you pull back on the "hammer" and it goes back to where it was (but cocking the real, unseen hammer) for single action, how do you lower the hammer safely? Is there a decocker or something?

You lower the hammer the same way you lower the hammer on every SA/DA revolver ever made.

Swift Justice
11-19-2010, 2:02 PM
I want one just because its different...

winnre
11-19-2010, 8:44 PM
personally, I think its ugly.

Good! So if there is only one at the store we won't fight over it!

jidokenju
11-20-2010, 12:09 AM
You lower the hammer the same way you lower the hammer on every SA/DA revolver ever made.
I'm still confused. Earlier in the thread, IDPA4U said the hammer returns to a rested position when you pull it back for single action (because it isn't really the hammer, just a sort of control for putting the gun in single action). Wouldn't that make lowering it like you do with other revolvers impossible? Or am I missing something?
Sorry if I sound like an idiot here. Still in the beginning stage of understanding how guns work, and my time spent with revolvers is more or less the same as my time spent reading this thread.

axhoaxho
11-20-2010, 12:32 PM
O217lS2kVRk rapid fire 125gr .357 factory loads

Surprisingly very litte kick on rapid fire recoil compares to traditional 2" revolvers, probably thanks to the location of the barrel design. To me it is a great plus for following shots in a snubnose .357 revolver.

The look of the revolver is kind of funny, yet with the Rhino name it is kind of ugly-duckling cool.

Is it CA approved? I wouldn't mind to add one to my collection.

Regards,

dw33b
12-08-2010, 10:38 PM
Has it been submitted for approval? I've already got money set aside!

gorenut
12-08-2010, 10:39 PM
Has it been submitted for approval? I've already got money set aside!

Hhaa, too bad one-shot conversions seem out of the question too.

Been reading some range reports on other forums and I'm jealous. Guy hitting golf ball size groupings 20 yards off-hand.

MadRiverArms
12-09-2010, 12:00 AM
For single shot how about starting by filling in 5 of the holes in the cylinder and then working on the size requirements.

-G

aznanimekid
12-09-2010, 1:46 AM
if it can be made SA then we dont need to single shot it, just put an extended barrel for length requirement and we're gtg

gorenut
12-09-2010, 8:56 AM
if it can be made SA then we dont need to single shot it, just put an extended barrel for length requirement and we're gtg

Actually, would be interesting to see someone look into this. Don't know if it'd be worth their time seeing how these guns seem to be more for a niche market. If you look at the full size Chiappa Rhinos, they simply look like the snub-nosed with an extended barrel. You can physically see where extended barrel is plugged in.

Gryff
12-09-2010, 9:22 AM
It fires out of the bottom cylinder chamber, not top. Less muzzle flip.

Less muzzle flip, but you also get .357 Magnum recoil pushing straight back into your hand/arm. Not necessarily pleasant.

sd_shooter
01-19-2011, 5:54 PM
Wow! I must have one now. :31:

I just saw the ad in the latest glossy edition of Shotgun News.

Rekrab
01-19-2011, 5:56 PM
I'll certainly be curious to see if these do get on the roster. I know Chiappa has reportedly submitted them for testing, but who knows what the goofballs at the CADOJ will actually say.

guns4life
01-19-2011, 6:02 PM
Oh hell no...I'll pass on that ugly mofo. That sucks because I was interested in it until I saw it from different angles. Maybe you have to see it in person to appreciate it?

sd_shooter
01-19-2011, 9:54 PM
Oh hell no...I'll pass on that ugly mofo. That sucks because I was interested in it until I saw it from different angles. Maybe you have to see it in person to appreciate it?

Ugly? It's rugged!

http://thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Rhino-Angle-view2.jpg

http://bigstickcombat.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/chiappa.jpg

http://www.americanrifleman.org/Webcontent/images/2010-11/2010113085435-rhino_5_m.jpg

It this guy ugly?
http://www.beautifulhome.com.au/images/pets/pug_dog1.jpg

haulboss
06-09-2012, 2:48 PM
Is this on the roster yet???

sd_shooter
06-10-2012, 6:35 AM
Is this on the roster yet???

Let Me Google That For You:
http://lmgtfy.com/

NoJoke
06-10-2012, 7:38 AM
Is this on the roster yet???

x2

What's the weight on that paperweight? Looks like at least a pound of solid alloy above the barrel. I might be interested - more as a collector - unless it really shoots nicely.

BunnySlayer
06-10-2012, 10:20 AM
I'm sure it's innovative and all that but for me personally I'll let someone else work out the bugs in something new before I use it to defend my life. Additionally I thinks it's possibly the ugliest gun I've ever seen. It has all the sex appeal of Rosie Odonnell. Yuck!

Gurney
06-10-2012, 1:39 PM
Massad Ayoob gave it a good review, and plans to use it in IDPA. It's mechanically sound and stays on target better during rapid fire. Skepticism is all well and good, but facts overcome it.

MossbergMan
06-10-2012, 6:18 PM
Who's shot one of these things? Is the recoil REALLY less? And any idea what kind of accuracy claim they make at 25 yards?

Todosi
06-11-2012, 2:01 AM
I have shot these and tested them fairly extensively. I must respectfully disagree with Mr. Ayoob. While the felt recoil is significantly less, there are two problems. One, if you use a thumbs forward grip, you will be losing some skin from your left thumb. Two, they are mechanically garbage. I had four, (yes four, no exaggeration) go down mechanically with less than 300 rounds through each. The cylinders ended up rotating in an oblong shape instead of a true circle. This led to consistent misfires on all four brand new guns. The cylinders also developed an unhealthy amount of slop front to back, to the point of my gunsmith telling me to stop shooting it immediately.

Bottom line, great idea, really poor execution.

Todosi
06-11-2012, 2:02 AM
I have shot these and tested them fairly extensively. I must respectfully disagree with Mr. Ayoob. While the felt recoil is significantly less, there are two problems. One, if you use a thumbs forward grip, you will be losing some skin from your left thumb. Two, they are mechanically garbage. I had four, (yes four, no exaggeration) go down mechanically with less than 300 rounds through each. The cylinders ended up rotating in an oblong shape instead of a true circle. This led to consistent misfires on all four brand new guns. The cylinders also developed an unhealthy amount of slop front to back, to the point of my gunsmith telling me to stop shooting it immediately.

Bottom line, great idea, really poor execution.

sd_shooter
06-11-2012, 6:47 AM
I have shot these and tested them fairly extensively. I must respectfully disagree with Mr. Ayoob. While the felt recoil is significantly less, there are two problems. One, if you use a thumbs forward grip, you will be losing some skin from your left thumb. Two, they are mechanically garbage. I had four, (yes four, no exaggeration) go down mechanically with less than 300 rounds through each. The cylinders ended up rotating in an oblong shape instead of a true circle. This led to consistent misfires on all four brand new guns. The cylinders also developed an unhealthy amount of slop front to back, to the point of my gunsmith telling me to stop shooting it immediately.

Bottom line, great idea, really poor execution.

You use a thumbs forward grip on a revolver? I keep my hands away from the cylinder, there's always stuff flying sideways and a good chance you'll get cut no matter who makes the gun.

This guy:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2313371/posts

Did this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XU9x8G7khv0/SoDrSGp7lmI/AAAAAAAAIMo/9FtcBFlt0Mo/s1600/ATT92879.jpg

Ended up with this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XU9x8G7khv0/SoDrS170d7I/AAAAAAAAIM4/RUqwubj4hVg/s400/Thumb6.jpg

So keep your thumbs like this:
http://www.christiangunowner.com/images/shooting2hdrevolver.jpg

Thumbs forward if you want, but only if shooting your semiauto pistol.

TurboChrisB
06-11-2012, 8:37 AM
I hate when that happens

winnre
06-11-2012, 8:56 AM
Put dowel rods in five chambers and sell it to me via SSE?

Rekrab
06-11-2012, 12:32 PM
I have shot these and tested them fairly extensively. I must respectfully disagree with Mr. Ayoob. While the felt recoil is significantly less, there are two problems. One, if you use a thumbs forward grip, you will be losing some skin from your left thumb. Two, they are mechanically garbage. I had four, (yes four, no exaggeration) go down mechanically with less than 300 rounds through each. The cylinders ended up rotating in an oblong shape instead of a true circle. This led to consistent misfires on all four brand new guns. The cylinders also developed an unhealthy amount of slop front to back, to the point of my gunsmith telling me to stop shooting it immediately.

Bottom line, great idea, really poor execution.

Your experience has been significantly different than mine. My Rhino has a few hundred rounds through it with no failures at all. Low recoil and great accuracy from mine.

Had you read the manual, you would know that Chiappa specifically mentions that the revolver must be handled in a certain way or your thumb will hurt at the end of the day.

http://mkschiappa.com/PDFs/Rhino_manual.pdf

Sunday
06-11-2012, 1:05 PM
I would like to try one out.

Gurney
06-11-2012, 2:12 PM
"One, if you use a thumbs forward grip, you will be losing some skin from your left thumb."

Ayoob discussed this at some length, since thumbs-forward puts your skin alongside the firing chamber and cylinder/forcing cone gap. Training, training, training.

Have other owners reported mechanical issues?

Todosi
06-13-2012, 8:34 PM
I don't shoot revolvers thumbs forward, but have seen people do it. The mechanical issues were the things that truly concerned me.

Danz la Nuit
06-23-2012, 11:18 AM
Are these CA legal?

How do I check?

Danz la Nuit
06-24-2012, 10:32 AM
Are these CA legal?

How do I check?

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Quiet
06-24-2012, 11:16 AM
I kinda want a Rhino in .45 :p

Are these CA legal?

How do I check?

Nothing about it makes it illegal in CA.

However, they are not on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale (http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/).

Therefore, a CA FFL dealer can only transfer them via LEO sale [PC 32000(b)(4)], PPT [PC 32110(a)], out-of-state intra-familial gift [PC 32110(b)] or as a dimensionally compliant single-action revolver/single shot pistol [PC 32100].

Dimensional & mechanical problems have arose by those that have attempted it and it is very difficult to make the Rhino into a dimensionally compliant single-action revolver or dimensionally compliant single shot pistol.
The 6" barrel length Rhino's overall length does not meet the 10.5" or greater requirement. [PC 32100(b)]
The Rhino's double-action trigger mechanism is proving to be too complicated to modify into a single-action only method of operation. It may be possible, but it looks like the necessary mods would permanently damage it and prevent it from being rendered by into a double-action revolver and Chiappa Firearms would void the warranty if this was attempted.

In order to get on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale, it needs to meet the requirements set forth by CA law [PC 31910(a)] and be submitted by Chiappa Firearms for testing. So far, Chiappa Firearms seems to not be interested in getting the Rhino on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.


Penal Code 31910
As used in this part, "unsafe handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, for which any of the following is true:
(a) For a revolver:
(1) It does not have a safety device that, either automatically in the case of a double-action firing mechanism, or by manual operation in the case of a single-action firing mechanism, causes the hammer to retract to a point where the firing pin does not rest upon the primer of the cartridge.
(2) It does not meet the firing requirement for handguns.
(3) It does not meet the drop safety requirement for handguns.

Penal Code 32100
(a) Article 4 (commencing with Section 31900) and Article 5 (commencing with Section 32000) shall not apply to a single-action revolver that has at least a five-cartridge capacity with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and meets any of the following specifications:
(1) Was originally manufactured prior to 1900 and is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
(2) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.
(3) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18 of the United States Code.
(b) Article 4 (commencing with Section 31900) and Article 5 (commencing with Section 32000) shall not apply to a single-shot pistol with a barrel length of not less than six inches and that has an overall length of at least 10 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.

Danz la Nuit
06-24-2012, 7:16 PM
I kinda want a Rhino in .45 :p



Nothing about it makes it illegal in CA.

However, they are not on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale (http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/).

Therefore, a CA FFL dealer can only transfer them via LEO sale [PC 32000(b)(4)], PPT [PC 32110(a)], out-of-state intra-familial gift [PC 32110(b)] or as a dimensionally compliant single-action revolver/single shot pistol [PC 32100].

Dimensional & mechanical problems have arose by those that have attempted it and it is very difficult to make the Rhino into a dimensionally compliant single-action revolver or dimensionally compliant single shot pistol.
The 6" barrel length Rhino's overall length does not meet the 10.5" or greater requirement. [PC 32100(b)]
The Rhino's double-action trigger mechanism is proving to be too complicated to modify into a single-action only method of operation. It may be possible, but it looks like the necessary mods would permanently damage it and prevent it from being rendered by into a double-action revolver and Chiappa Firearms would void the warranty if this was attempted.

In order to get on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale, it needs to meet the requirements set forth by CA law [PC 31910(a)] and be submitted by Chiappa Firearms for testing. So far, Chiappa Firearms seems to not be interested in getting the Rhino on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.


Penal Code 31910
As used in this part, "unsafe handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, for which any of the following is true:
(a) For a revolver:
(1) It does not have a safety device that, either automatically in the case of a double-action firing mechanism, or by manual operation in the case of a single-action firing mechanism, causes the hammer to retract to a point where the firing pin does not rest upon the primer of the cartridge.
(2) It does not meet the firing requirement for handguns.
(3) It does not meet the drop safety requirement for handguns.

Penal Code 32100
(a) Article 4 (commencing with Section 31900) and Article 5 (commencing with Section 32000) shall not apply to a single-action revolver that has at least a five-cartridge capacity with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and meets any of the following specifications:
(1) Was originally manufactured prior to 1900 and is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
(2) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.
(3) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18 of the United States Code.
(b) Article 4 (commencing with Section 31900) and Article 5 (commencing with Section 32000) shall not apply to a single-shot pistol with a barrel length of not less than six inches and that has an overall length of at least 10 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.

Thank you for clarifying that!