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PanchoVilla
01-19-2010, 1:17 PM
I have been looking for a smaller handgun to CCW. (in case the year turns out good regarding CCW here in CA)

I found the Kahr 9mm which is a good single stack small 9mm. I also noticed that some of the compact 1911 style .45s are fairly thin. I was wondering if there were some other choices I should consider. Criteria is below.

Must be single stack magazine.
9mm, 40 S&W, or .45 ACP (no .380)

Just want to make sure I consider all the various options.

troysland
01-19-2010, 1:36 PM
+1 on the Kahr. I have a CW9 for CCW(Utah). I wear an IWB holster, and it's very comfortable.

freonr22
01-19-2010, 1:38 PM
Smith and Wesson model 39?

Meplat
01-19-2010, 3:43 PM
I have been looking for a smaller handgun to CCW. (in case the year turns out good regarding CCW here in CA)

I found the Kahr 9mm which is a good single stack small 9mm. I also noticed that some of the compact 1911 style .45s are fairly thin. I was wondering if there were some other choices I should consider. Criteria is below.

Must be single stack magazine.
9mm, 40 S&W, or .45 ACP (no .380)

Just want to make sure I consider all the various options.

My son bought a K9 for my daughter in law. The trigger was awful and accuracy was unacceptable times three! Several very good to expert pistol shooters agreed that the thing was a POS. They gave the thing away and my daughter opted to stick with her LadySmith.;)

Joe
02-10-2010, 12:09 AM
My son bought a K9 for my daughter in law. The trigger was awful and accuracy was unacceptable times three! Several very good to expert pistol shooters agreed that the thing was a POS. They gave the thing away and my daughter opted to stick with her LadySmith.;)

Thats odd. I shoot my mk9 better than any other handgun I own. Its the most accurate. Better than my g19, sig, 1911, wheelguns, all of em.

Steve G
02-10-2010, 8:34 AM
HK P7M8. The best and most accurate 9mm out there, oh and single stack too.

9mmepiphany
02-10-2010, 1:44 PM
i'm owned most of the guns mentioned so far and can highly recommend the Kahr for it's thinness...i have the CW9, so it's pretty light too.

the S&W M39 is not only a thicker gun, but also much bigger

if you want the longer barrel of the S&W, the H&K P-7 would be the way to go. it has a full sized 4" barrel in a compact package, but some folks find the weight objectionable.

if you're comfortable with a SA pistol,a gun that compares favorably to the Kahr is the Springfield EMP (Enhanced Micro Pistol). its a 1911 optimized to function reliably with the 9mm length cartridge. it's fit and finish makes it almost a custom gun and it is priced accordingly.

i would advise against a .45 ACP pistol in this size range. when you take that design to a barrel lenght shorter than 4.25" (commander size), timing issues start to arise.

chaled
02-10-2010, 2:39 PM
Walther PPS. I handled it but didn't shoot it. Nice and thin.

lawaia
02-10-2010, 2:52 PM
Sig P239

Paindoc
02-10-2010, 9:23 PM
Tokarev TT-33

Is 7.62x25 at 1600-1900 fps. Terminal ballistics much like FN 5.7 (Ft Hood)

Extremely thin 1911 like design, 8+1, and so cheap you can buy 3 plus 1000 rds ammo for the cost of some of the guns you mention. Then, if you are involved in a shooting, you already have another of your favorite carry pistol on hand and are back in business, even if your weapon is held by LE!

Untamed1972
02-11-2010, 5:20 PM
Taurus PT-111 is a double stack 9mm but still has a pretty thin profile. As thin as a Para warthog in 45. In free states the PT-111 is a 12+1 capacity as well.

DParker
02-24-2010, 6:44 PM
Kahr PM9 (http://www.kahr.com/PA-1_9mm_pm.html) is my everyday CCW gun. Excellent little 9mm. Mine is the 9094 (http://www.kahr.com/dtlimg_pm9094.html) with the matte blackened stainless steel slide. Carry it with a Comp-Tac C-Tac IWB (http://www.comp-tac.com/product_info.php?products_id=61) hoster. It just disappears and is very comfortable.

For .45 I prefer the Kimber Compact CDP II (http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/cdp/compact_cdp_II/). I prefer the 4 inch barrel over the Ultra's 3 inch barrel. Ads very little to the weight/conceal-ability. It is rock solid dependable and an excellent carry gun with the right holster. I use the Milt Sparks VM-2 (http://www.miltsparks.com/VM-2.htm).

jermedic
02-24-2010, 8:27 PM
Glock 36. I love mine. It shoots more accurate than I can and is easy to control for a lightweight 45. Never had a malfunction of any kind with it.

MrBrent
02-24-2010, 9:12 PM
I carry a SA EMP in 9mm. Great little gun. I am interested in a Kahr PM9 but haven't had the chance to hold or shoot but I like the weight in the stats.

bigcalidave
02-25-2010, 10:04 AM
Check the mouse gun chart for size info on a lot of small guns.

http://www.mouseguns.com/PocketAutoComparison.jpg

4thHorse
02-25-2010, 10:07 PM
My buddy is getting the new Ruger SR9c

TexasAggie
03-02-2010, 9:54 AM
I carry a Kimber Ultra CDP II. It is a 3" barrel, and it is a pleasure to carry.


TexasAggie

groovielou
03-02-2010, 5:45 PM
+1 for the Kahr CW9...

I also carry the Ruger LCR... SUPER light, very concealable.

TonyM
03-04-2010, 10:05 AM
I carry a Kimber Ultra CDP II. It is a 3" barrel, and it is a pleasure to carry.


TexasAggie

Walther PPS. I handled it but didn't shoot it. Nice and thin.

I own and carry both of these as well as a Glock 27 and 36 on a regular basis. I put slim grips on the CDP II and really like it. My favorites are the PPS and the 1911 for the size.

AbinSur
03-04-2010, 4:08 PM
+1 on the CW9 here, too. I find it quite accurate and even with my preferred carry style (paddle, OWB, FBI), virtually invisible. 1K rounds fired without a single issue so far...

G-Solutions
03-04-2010, 7:16 PM
+1 on Kahr

P40 and PM40 have both given me good service. If I was to do it over, I'd go with the 9mm - the .40 is a bit snappy due to its light weight. Plus, I'd prefer the extra round.

PM40 is currently in a Comp-Tac 2 o'clock holster in the place where the holster was designed to go :cool:.

NineteenElev3n
03-04-2010, 7:30 PM
My vote is for the Kimber Compact CDP II and the Kimber Ultra CDP II. The Kimber Ultra Raptor II is also nice.

rockman
03-07-2010, 7:50 PM
Check out a Springfield EMP 9mm 1911. Easy to concel, plus Springfield has one of the best warranties out there. This pistol has a life time warranty.

9mmepiphany
03-07-2010, 9:44 PM
Check out a Springfield EMP 9mm 1911. Easy to concel, plus Springfield has one of the best warranties out there. This pistol has a life time warranty.

did someone mention the EMP?
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=271236

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/DSC_1677.jpg

theneko
03-08-2010, 3:52 PM
+1 for the EMP - it is extremeley thin, and is pretty light.

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt57/Neko1911/IMG_5028.jpg

glock_this
03-08-2010, 3:58 PM
My bro likes the fugly but small Ruger LCP - but my bro is kind of a douche ;)

Rob85
03-11-2010, 8:54 AM
Check out a Springfield EMP 9mm 1911. Easy to concel, plus Springfield has one of the best warranties out there. This pistol has a life time warranty.

+1000 This gun feels perfect in your hand and is a joy to shoot in the 9mm.

Treb5
03-11-2010, 7:19 PM
Consider this another vote for the Springfield EMP. One of my favorite pistols... Excellent for CCW

MrBrent
03-13-2010, 8:54 PM
+1 on the EMP. I also carry the Sig 232 for something small. I am looking for a Kahr PM9 to round it out. Much lighter than the EMP for summer carry.
http://gkosin.smugmug.com/photos/791695156_rYTX4-M.jpg

http://gkosin.smugmug.com/photos/652810729_C8JEc-M.jpg

http://gkosin.smugmug.com/Hobbies/Sig-232/postMG0741/774305208_rbYcm-M.jpg

9mmepiphany
03-13-2010, 9:33 PM
the EMP and Kahr are great choices

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/DSC_1646.jpg

PonchoTA
03-13-2010, 9:34 PM
I've got the PF-9 and a P-11, both KelTecs.

Great guns, lighter than the competition. I've never had a failure in either of them.


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neuron
03-16-2010, 9:17 PM
I have been looking for a smaller handgun to CCW. (in case the year turns out good regarding CCW here in CA)...

Criteria is below.

Must be single stack magazine.
9mm, 40 S&W, or .45 ACP (no .380)

Just want to make sure I consider all the various options.

Why no .380? OK, I can guess your objection...not enough stopping power, right? Sure. I'd rather have a 9x19, .357. .40S&W, .44Mag, or .45ACP in an SD situation, but life involves compromises. Ultimately, the first rule of SD CCW gun carry is have a gun and you want one that you can carry comfortably concealed and readily accessible at all times. And you want a gun that you can shoot accurately at the SD ranges you're likely to to be at in a SD crisis situation.

Civilian SD CCW has different requirements (a different mission) than LE. You will use your gun to thwart an attack on your person, not to arrest BGs, and unlike LEOs, you will not likely have to deal with multiple well-armed assailants, but maybe one or two BGs who never expected you to be armed and will be unpleasantly surprised when they find out you are armed (unlike the LEO they expect to be armed.

So I maintain that the best strategy for an armed civilian is to simply have a well-concealed gun to be brought out in the moment of need, with the full SD benefit of surprise. Any gun is better than no gun, and as far as that goes you should really consider that there are several .380ACP "pocket pistols" that fit the bill. It really helps if you can shoot this gun accurately. The .380 (like the PPK/S I carry when I can't comfortably carry my other full size service pistol) is worthy of consideration.:) Don't dismiss the .380.

randy
03-17-2010, 2:31 AM
Officer size 1911 with thin grips and the HK P7M8.

davbog44
03-17-2010, 8:00 AM
A SIG-Sauer P220 Carry with the "thin grips" is a great, Commander sized pistol. With the thin grips, it's actually slightly thinner than a 1911. Accurate, super reliable, with .45ACP knock down power.

The thin grips can be ordered from the factory or a few other places for around $15.

Vinnie
03-17-2010, 5:53 PM
I tried out the 9mm Kahr PM9 last night, over at On Target in Mission Viejo. For me, it seemed a tad too light, making it snappy. Also, the bottom of the mag seemed sharp as it sat towards the top of my little finger..

The KM9 would probably be a better choice to shoot, since it is the stainless version having a little more heft, but also makes it a heavier for carry.

Would love to have a chance to shoot the Springfield EMP. For me, it looks like it might be a better choice.
Here's a pretty good review of it:
http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/spemp_010807/index.html

BTW - If anyone plans on being at OnTarget with a Springfield EMP, I'd gladly trade you a box of 9mm rounds for a chance to try out your EMP :D

9mmepiphany
03-17-2010, 11:33 PM
i really like my EMP, but you're a bit far to try it out. my review was the best i can do for you

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=271236

socalblue
03-18-2010, 12:35 AM
I'm in the same boat right now - looking for a carry gun for the oldest DD. Since she is likely going to grad school in a cold weather state, I have pretty much ruled out a .380 due to concern about the inability to reliably penetrate heavy clothing.

Vinnie
03-18-2010, 9:30 AM
i really like my EMP, but you're a bit far to try it out. my review was the best i can do for you

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=271236

Great look at the EMP...
Thanks for posting!!

dodgerfan175
03-18-2010, 9:37 AM
+1 on the Glock 36

flyer898
04-04-2010, 2:47 PM
My favorite ccw for belt carry is the P7M8. Thin, and lower perceived recoil than other 9mm of same weight because the barrel is positioned lower relative to the shooter's hand. This is possible because it is a retarded blowback action and does not have a mechanically locked breach like the 1911 pattern guns and the Kahr.

The HK is utterly reliable, accurate, and in my opinion, the safest semi-auto from the persective of accidental discharge. As soon as the shooter takes a firing grip it is ready to fire; as soon as the shooter lets go it is absolutely safe, short of being thrown into a fire.

It is no bigger or heavier than some .380 pistols, and is an 8+1 9mm.

They are a little more expensive, but still on the DOJ list.

MossbergMan
04-04-2010, 7:03 PM
Count me as +10 in the EMP. I love my 9mm, but now they have the .40SW version out (I may have to retire my trusty G-27...okay never.) but I do carry the EMP IWB because it is sooooo thin and holds 9+1 rounds of Federal HST or when I can find it Winchester "T" series.
Just ordered a Crossbreed Super-Tuck holster for it. The Desantis Intruder is a good knock off, but CB has been putting his holsters out long before the Intruder was debuted this year at SHOT.
But this thread is about thin guns not holsters.....EMP-9 or 40, Kahr 9's good calls for skinny guns.

south.sac.sniper
04-08-2010, 10:09 AM
sw 3919

groats
04-08-2010, 11:19 AM
I'm in the same boat right now - looking for a carry gun for the oldest DD. Since she is likely going to grad school in a cold weather state, I have pretty much ruled out a .380 due to concern about the inability to reliably penetrate heavy clothing.

Forget the caliber - what school is she going to that isn't going to go apoplectic over a gun and throw her out?

I know lots of students at places like Ga. Tech who really, really wish they could carry weapons - daily robbings, rapes, etc. since anywhere within 1,000 yards of campus is a 'rob-me' zone.

SgtDinosaur
04-08-2010, 11:31 AM
Concealed means concealed.

C.W.M.V.
04-08-2010, 1:49 PM
Any of the various 1911 officers model type weapons.