View Full Version : Can you sell xxx HiCap Magazines as rebuild kits? Email blast draft

01-13-2010, 2:47 PM
We have many vendors that gladly sell hicap mag rebuild kits and legal firearms to California. Great folks all!

However many of the larger companies AIM, J&G, Coles and most smaller ones still do not get it..Like thread I had with the owner of Gun-Zone in Oregon..

Can it hurt if we emailed said companies with this email I drafted..

Hi Vendor XXX,

Can you ship this mag as a rebuilt kit to California? A rebuilt kit is just a disassembled mag and 100 percent legal to sell into this state.

These are legal for creating 10/30 mags (mags limited to 10rds) or 10/20, 10/40 or 10/15 etc..

Or for use in repairing worn or broken mags that many already had in the state prior to the Jan 1, 2000 ban. These kits cannot be used to create a new magazine! Doing so is against the law.

Many here will gladly to pay any fair markup to cover your cost to break these down into rebuild kits.

If you have any questions on legality please post on Calguns.net 2nd amedment and legal form. or contact the folks at Calguns Foundation. They can inform you of the legality..

2nd Amend. Politics and Laws Forum


Calfornia gun law Wiki:


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Here are multiple vendors that ship high cap rebuild kits to California.








Looking forward to hearing from you and doing some business.



01-13-2010, 3:05 PM
Why bother. Just support the companies that do.

01-13-2010, 3:07 PM
There's enough that already do and they have good enough prices that this probably wouldn't help, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt either.

01-13-2010, 3:10 PM
Why bother. Just support the companies that do.

1) The existing vendors may not have the mags we need. Some of us have rarer firearms then AKs or ARs or Glocks.
2) Competition is key to capitalism. Drive down costs.
3) The pull through effect, once the big dealers get into California it just helps with all other 2nd Amendment issues here, IMHO..


01-13-2010, 3:12 PM
I think, for something like this to be effective, it would need to be written in a way that provides substantiation for the argument rather than links to CGF, etc. They will not visit the links; it's the role of the author to convince the business that the content is legitimate and worth investigating - get that door propped open for further discussion.

In my mind it might be useful for something like this to come from CGN or CGF with letters of support from potential consumers. That said, there might not be enough margin in these things to be worth the perceived headaches.

B Strong
01-13-2010, 4:27 PM
Good effort, but I'm not sure if it will have any effect.

I've been doing business, both buying and selling from my collection, for many years.

There are folks that I know as individuals and have done business with from other states that will no longer do business with California, reality of the law be damned.

You never know how your approach will be received, so it may bear good results, but I'm more pessimistic these days than optimistic.

Even after a favorable decision in MacDonald, We're going to be fighting an uphill battle with the dealers that don't understand, the dealers that don't care, and the dealers that simply hate Californians and California.

01-13-2010, 5:28 PM
I still think that CalNRA with NRA & CRPA should release a statement to do away with all the myths & FUDs. Just have a Q&A type info page with questions like how to ship firearms to CA, magazine parts kit (with a copy of the DOJ letter that Alison Merrilee wrote), OLLs & others.

With the NRA behind it, 99% of FFLs will rethink their decisions, I think. We have all the legal documents to support us. It just needs to be put together & endorsed by the "right people".

Do you think that is doable, Wildhawker?

01-14-2010, 8:57 AM
Thanks for the feedback all..

Wildhawker, what are perceived headaches?

I do not want to setback the 2nd amendment or any efforts CGF may have in the works hence I the posted this RFC for the draft..