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m3b
12-21-2005, 10:50 PM
Are there any?

CTT2
12-21-2005, 10:52 PM
Bolt action for semi-auto?

ivanimal
12-22-2005, 12:04 AM
http://www.remingtonle.com/images/rifles/m7615.jpg

http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/7615.htm

These are nice, for pump guns.

bwiese
12-22-2005, 12:37 AM
The upcoming Beretta RX4 may be what a lot of folks really want, esp in California. Right now it's 'showing' in Europe security/arms shows, but I'm sure it'll show up in the USA soon -likely at the SHOT Show.

The RX4 is based off the Benelli R1 semiauto rifle, which in turn is derived from a Benelli semiauto shotgun platform.

It's a 5.56/223 carbine that accepts AR15/M16 magazines, appears to have a chrome-lined barrel, and can accept a regular Benelli shotgun buttstock (i.e., noncollapsible, no pistol grip) so it's not an assault weapon in California. In this conventional rifle trim it appears importable as a sporting rifle into the US without 922(r) domestic parts content games.

It appears to use something like the ARGO gas system with a low-travel bolt, and the barrel appears to be user-replaceable/changeable. There's a good chance this will be quite an accurate rifle, esp compared with other non-AR 223s out there.

It will likely be the M1A of the 223 world, something the Mini 14 could never be due to accuracy issues and magazine supply issues.

Richard
12-22-2005, 10:43 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ro1964/RX4.gif[:cool:


LOOKS LIKE A WINNER.

MrTuffPaws
12-22-2005, 12:07 PM
Hmmmm....Anyone know the ETA on these?

Oh yeah, anyone want to tell me why a pistol grip would make that thing any more dangerous than if it had a normal rifle stock? :D

caduckgunner
12-22-2005, 12:18 PM
Hmmmm....Anyone know the ETA on these?

Oh yeah, anyone want to tell me why a pistol grip would make that thing any more dangerous than if it had a normal rifle stock? :D


Becasue pistol grips kill peope............................ Don't you know anything:rolleyes: :D

MrTuffPaws
12-22-2005, 12:31 PM
Becasue pistol grips kill peope............................ Don't you know anything:rolleyes: :D


Ohhhh!!!, so that is it. Thanks, I was really wondering about that ;)

saki302
12-22-2005, 6:15 PM
Nah- the grips don't kill. They turn you into an evil psychotic rampaging killer.

Studies have been done at the VPC :D :rolleyes:

-Dave

Leo762
12-22-2005, 9:06 PM
Becasue pistol grips kill peope............................ Don't you know anything:rolleyes: :D

not only do they do that, they also kill unborn babies - damn those grips!!!!:mad:

Gunner1
12-22-2005, 9:18 PM
I wrote a letter to Beretta about these rifles, ahem for the agency I work for. Thought it might grease the wheels for us a little. No reply yet but will keep everyone posted.


Gunner:p

PanzerAce
12-22-2005, 11:38 PM
Nah- the grips don't kill. They turn you into an evil psychotic rampaging killer.

Studies have been done at the VPC :D :rolleyes:

-Dave

Guns dont kill people, pistol grips and detachable magazines kill people

Dont Tread on Me
12-23-2005, 4:31 PM
I'm in love already. Wow - a half decent .223 that is CA legal! Beretta are going to sell a lot of them here.

You can see more pictures of the gun at: http://www.securityarms.com/cgi-local/sa.cgi?noframes;read=7274.

It includes a picture being held by a lady (with really bad trigger disapline) so you can get an idea on the size + picture with a non-pistol grip stock.

Left Coast DJ
12-25-2005, 8:52 PM
Turners has the Remington 7615P on sale for $649.

DJ

heuer5
12-25-2005, 9:07 PM
My FFL told me that the RX4 will between 900 and 1200. See Benelli R1 prices.

delloro
12-26-2005, 8:41 AM
my God that is ugly.

artherd
12-26-2005, 6:26 PM
Good work Gunner!

Let us know the results.

I wrote a letter to Beretta about these rifles, ahem for the agency I work for. Thought it might grease the wheels for us a little. No reply yet but will keep everyone posted.


Gunner:p

C.G.
12-27-2005, 4:17 AM
my God that is ugly.

Just drink it beautiful; it's worked for me before!:D

gose
12-27-2005, 4:50 AM
Just drink it beautiful; it's worked for me before!:D

Or turn off the lights, or use a paper bag... works every time ;)

MrTuffPaws
12-27-2005, 10:32 AM
my God that is ugly.

Beauty is just a light switch away. Does it come with night optics?