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lunde
12-20-2005, 3:56 PM
Check out today's Roster of Handguns Certified for California Sale: http://justice.doj.ca.gov/safeguns/safeguns.asp

Nine new SIGARMS pistols appeared, along with some Kimber and Wilson Combat offerings. Just in time for Christmas, though the ten-day waiting period will take away some holiday excitement. :D

No Sig-Sauer P226 X-Fives, though. :(

lunde
12-20-2005, 4:23 PM
treelogger, you wrote:And the H&K P7M8 has dropped off the list. Sniff sniff. Very sad.The P7M8 Jubilee was dropped from the list, but the standard P7M8 is still certified.

Exiledviking
12-20-2005, 5:33 PM
but the standard P7M8 is still certified.

Thank goodness!!!

gunsnrovers
12-20-2005, 6:03 PM
Still waiting for the S&W M22 to be approved. I emailed S&W and they said it had been submitted...

Kruzr
12-20-2005, 7:00 PM
The significance of the Kimber models listed is they are............internal extractors (again).

gimmejr
12-20-2005, 7:04 PM
Wow, look at all those Sigs.

voodoo
12-20-2005, 9:10 PM
The significance of the Kimber models listed is they are............internal extractors (again).

Are you sure about that?:confused: All the Kimbers I see listed are Series II, and have external extractors.

Gnote
12-20-2005, 9:26 PM
No Sig-Sauer P226 X-Fives, though. :(
Ditto the bummer feeling.:(

losangeles
12-21-2005, 7:22 AM
Anybody know the ramifications for a handgun to drop off the list? Does it only mean new guns of that model can't be sold in dealerships? What about private sales? Thanks.

1911_sfca
12-21-2005, 8:22 AM
Am I the only one who, every time I look at the list, is struck by how ludicrous the whole concept is??

:rolleyes:

BigAL
12-21-2005, 9:19 AM
Anybody know the ramifications for a handgun to drop off the list? Does it only mean new guns of that model can't be sold in dealerships? What about private sales? Thanks.

If a gun is not listed you can still buy it, but it has to be a private party sale between 2 people in CA.

Ratters
12-21-2005, 9:54 AM
Anybody know the ramifications for a handgun to drop off the list? Does it only mean new guns of that model can't be sold in dealerships? What about private sales? Thanks.

Private sales in state are exempt from the list, but you won't be able to do a private sale out of state. Private sales are also exempt from the 1 in 30 day rule.

losangeles
12-21-2005, 10:20 AM
Thanks BigAl and Ratters. I'm glad there's a way to still unload something easily if ever the need arises. I guess the restriction would affect the marketability and price, though.

Kruzr
12-21-2005, 1:47 PM
Are you sure about that?:confused: All the Kimbers I see listed are Series II, and have external extractors.
The Series II designation has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with external extractors. Kimber started making Series II guns in 2001. They didn't make the external extractor until the end of 2003. The Series II means it has the Swartz FP safety and nothing else.

Yes, I'm sure. If you look at the approved Kimbers, they list if they are external extractors. If it doesn't say external, they are internals except the Team Match which is always external.

jessegpresley
12-21-2005, 1:51 PM
So many yummy Sigs and Wilsons! Anybody know what a Sig "229RGCP" is? Some sort of railed something.

Sig226
12-21-2005, 2:40 PM
Check out today's Roster of Handguns Certified for California Sale: http://justice.doj.ca.gov/safeguns/safeguns.asp

No Sig-Sauer P226 X-Fives, though. :(


So it would seem we will NEVER be able to buy these pistols. After the first of the year Ca residents cannot purchase a pistol that does not either have a Mag Disconnect or loaded chamber indicator.

The Sig X-Five has neither of these correct?

This could just flat our SUCK.

blakpuc
12-21-2005, 3:20 PM
:D 239 SAS yay

magsnubby
12-21-2005, 3:24 PM
After the first of the year Ca residents cannot purchase a pistol that does not either have a Mag Disconnect or loaded chamber indicator.


That only applies to newly introduced handguns. Anything now on the list will still be avaliable.

lunde
12-21-2005, 3:25 PM
I have a P229 SAS. Nice pistol, but I don't care for its grips:

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/p229sas-left-full.jpg

I ordered a set of new Nill SS1558 grips for it, which are for P229s with DAK triggers. They will be like those for my p228, but without a cutout and grooves for the decocker:

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/p228tt-left-full.jpg

Librarian
12-21-2005, 3:53 PM
Am I the only one who, every time I look at the list, is struck by how ludicrous the whole concept is??

:rolleyes:Not at all. Particularly frustrated must be the current Mayor of LA, Antonio Villaregosa, who sponsored the bill hoping guns like Lorcin, Bryco, Davis and Raven would fail the test and therefore no longer be available in California. No doubt he emits an occasional chortle at the edifice he founded, beginning the conditioning of the population to regulating guns on spurious technical grounds, in the guise of making us safer by doing the usual nothing.

Bitter? Nah.

Bruce
12-21-2005, 6:49 PM
Still waiting for the S&W M22 to be approved. I emailed S&W and they said it had been submitted...

You are not alone.

blakpuc
12-22-2005, 7:35 AM
lunde,

I thought I recognized you from SigForum. Good looking pistol, what is it you dont like about the stock grips?
oh and btw, I much prefer the blue background (I dont think I responded in the thread over there)
cheers

lunde
12-22-2005, 7:46 AM
blakpuc, you wrote:Good looking pistol, what is it you dont like about the stock grips?They are not contoured nearly as well as Nill grips, they are thicker than Nill grips, and the finish is not as good as Nill grips. SIGARMS should have put Nill grips on it.

zefflyn
12-22-2005, 1:54 PM
So it would seem we will NEVER be able to buy these pistols. After the first of the year Ca residents cannot purchase a pistol that does not either have a Mag Disconnect or loaded chamber indicator.

The Sig X-Five has neither of these correct?

This could just flat our SUCK.

Same would go for the new Kahr .45, I believe.
Hopefully, both companies configured the extractor to function as a loaded chamber indicator, which seems to be a common practice.

ldivinag
12-29-2005, 4:39 PM
Not at all. Particularly frustrated must be the current Mayor of LA, Antonio Villaregosa, who sponsored the bill hoping guns like Lorcin, Bryco, Davis and Raven would fail the test and therefore no longer be available in California. No doubt he emits an occasional chortle at the edifice he founded, beginning the conditioning of the population to regulating guns on spurious technical grounds, in the guise of making us safer by doing the usual nothing.

Bitter? Nah.

but... but... but...

it's for the kids...



[/sarcasm]

jyl
01-02-2006, 7:21 PM
Two more interesting additions, just added on 12/30/05:

Detonics Combat Master and Detonics 9-11-01.

No_Brakes23
01-10-2006, 9:21 AM
I wonder why the SIG P226R Equinox is on the list but not the 229 Eq?

lunde
01-10-2006, 12:14 PM
No_Brakes23, you wrote:I wonder why the SIG P226R Equinox is on the list but not the 229 Eq?Both (Equinox in P226R and P229R flavors) are on the list, as of 12/20/2005...

No_Brakes23
01-10-2006, 12:26 PM
Both (Equinox in P226R and P229R flavors) are on the list, as of 12/20/2005...

Wonder why I didn't see that...