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boxtype1
01-10-2010, 5:53 PM
Hello. Is there a 30 day wait to purchase another handgun even if its a private party transfer or consignment, Or is it only when you buy one new from a retail store. Thanks

X-NewYawker
01-10-2010, 5:54 PM
Only when you do a new gun from store.
PPT between individuals is exempt
I once bought thirty PPT handguns in one visit!

Well... I WANTED to...

elrcastor
01-10-2010, 6:26 PM
The 1 in 30 applies to guns that are in the dealers inventory. PPT's and consignments don't count.

NorCalMama
01-10-2010, 6:31 PM
What penal code says that PPT's and consignments are exempt from the 30 24 hour period??? I never knew that they were exempt from that godless law.

Thanks!

elrcastor
01-10-2010, 6:35 PM
This law has been incorporated into California Penal Code (PC) sections 12071 and 12072.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/infobuls/9907.pdf

Librarian
01-10-2010, 6:37 PM
What penal code says that PPT's and consignments are exempt from the 30 24 hour period??? I never knew that they were exempt from that godless law.

Thanks!

Handguns transferred through PPT are exempt from the Roster. (Penal Code 12132(a)).

Handguns transferred through PPT are exempt from the 1 per 30 days rule. (Penal Code 12072(a)(9)(B)(viii))

Except, of course, in Los Angeles. :(

NorCalMama
01-10-2010, 7:15 PM
Handguns transferred through PPT are exempt from the Roster. (Penal Code 12132(a)).

Handguns transferred through PPT are exempt from the 1 per 30 days rule. (Penal Code 12072(a)(9)(B)(viii))

Except, of course, in Los Angeles. :(

Are you serious??? How can a city/town/etc decide they can override state law?! :mad:

nitrofc
01-10-2010, 7:39 PM
Are you serious??? How can a city/town/etc decide they can override state law?! :mad:

They create their own City Ordinance.

I'm not joking.

Librarian
01-10-2010, 7:39 PM
Are you serious??? How can a city/town/etc decide they can override state law?! :mad:

The usual ways - unbridled arrogance, foremost.

But there's a very common misunderstanding about what the State controls entirely, and what it has said nothing about.

From the Wiki ...

State preemption in Government Code is really quite narrow:

53071. It is the intention of the Legislature to occupy the whole
field of regulation of the registration or licensing
of commercially manufactured firearms as encompassed by
the provisions of the Penal Code, and such provisions shall be
exclusive of all local regulations, relating to registration or
licensing of commercially manufactured firearms, by any
political subdivision as defined in Section 1721 of the Labor
Code.

Regulation outside the scope of 53071 is not preempted.

That is, the State controls
registration
and
licensing
of commercially manufactured firearms .

Contrast 53071 with 53071.5:53071.5. By the enforcement of this section, the Legislature
occupies the whole field of regulation of the
manufacture,
sale, or
possession
of imitation firearms, as defined in Section 12550 of the
Penal Code, and that section shall preempt and be exclusive of all
regulations relating to the manufacture, sale, or possession of
imitation firearms, including regulations governing the manufacture,
sale, or possession of BB devices and air rifles described in
subdivision (g) of Section 12001 of the Penal Code.

den888
01-10-2010, 8:44 PM
This is correct. I once bought 2 PPT's/consignments at a gun shop and I had no problems taking them both home after the 10 day waiting period.


Only when you do a new gun from store.
PPT between individuals is exempt
I once bought thirty PPT handguns in one visit!

Well... I WANTED to...

bigthaiboy
01-10-2010, 10:25 PM
Correct, unlimited handgun PPTs and consignment guns in any 30 days period, but you still have to fill in a seperate 4473 form and pay DROS for EACH handgun. The state gives no discounts for volume.