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SDProtection
12-28-2009, 4:56 PM
Hey all,

I have a customer who wants to import a Colt LE6940. He is active military, just bought the gun in UT and moving to CA. He was told by the UT FFL that with a bullet button it is legal in CA as only the Colt LE 6920 is listed in the CA AW list.

I would argue that the CA AW list also has "any" Colt AR-15 listed. Am I missing something here?

So what say you?

halifax
12-28-2009, 5:45 PM
Certainly it's a Colt AR-15 (all) which is named in Appendix A (Roberti-Roos AW list)

TRICKSTER
12-28-2009, 5:48 PM
He may be able to register it as an AW if he is Active Duty. Have him check with DOJ.
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Moving_to_California_with_firearms#Active_Duty_Mil itary_and_.27assault_weapons.27

Quiet
12-28-2009, 6:31 PM
make/model listed Colt recievers:
Law Enforcement (6920)
Match Target (all)
AR-15 (all)
Sporter (all)


The Colt LE6940 is marked.
(make) Colt (model) Colts Law Enforcement Carbine
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/151931000/151931713/pix1483878187.jpg

Quiet
12-28-2009, 6:31 PM
He may be able to register it as an AW if he is Active Duty. Have him check with DOJ.
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Moving_to_California_with_firearms#Active_Duty_Mil itary_and_.27assault_weapons.27

+1 on doing this, if he is active duty.

lorax3
12-28-2009, 8:08 PM
If the weapon is otherwise legal in his home state of residence tell him to look into a MAWP (http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/LegalCaliforniaMilitaryAWP).


You'll want to call (916) 263-8100, which is the "Assault Weapon Registration and Special Weapon Permits" line.
The point of contact USED to be Yolanda Garcia, but she's no longer there; Terry is now the proper POC.

tenpercentfirearms
12-29-2009, 8:03 AM
Certainly it's a Colt AR-15 (all) which is named in Appendix A (Roberti-Roos AW list)

As you can see by the picture, it doesn't say AR15 anywhere on it. Now the Law Enforcement is banned, but they screwed up and specifically put (6920) and this is a 6940.

This appears to be an off list Colt, no registration required. If he is just moving in, tell him to Bullet Button it and don't sweat it.

OCArmory
12-29-2009, 9:14 AM
The only reason I am squeamish about the 6940 is that it uses the same lower as the 6920. So the markings are exactly the same. I know the upper is different but I would use a little more caution on this one.
Mike

SDProtection
12-29-2009, 4:49 PM
hmmm, now I am just as conflicted as before but for different reasons. So am I correct in understanding that the lower has to be stamped exactly as the AW listing is spelled out, otherwise you are free and clear? (i.e., if no "AR-15" is stamped, then it's not an AR-15 in the eyes of the AW list...)

ugimports
12-29-2009, 5:29 PM
As you can see by the picture, it doesn't say AR15 anywhere on it. Now the Law Enforcement is banned, but they screwed up and specifically put (6920) and this is a 6940.

This appears to be an off list Colt, no registration required. If he is just moving in, tell him to Bullet Button it and don't sweat it.

I would tend to agree here. I transferred 2 at the last Cow Palace gun show for customers who purchased them from CWS. I checked them out and likewise did not see the 6920 markings on them. Now the lower isn't clearly marked 6940 so I recommended to the customers that they keep the documentation that came with it handy on range trips so they can clearly show what they have is a LE6940 vs. the banned LE6920 which is listed...

Additionally the box they had was original which shows the marketed model number of LE6940 which the matching serial number to the firearm they have. And of course all paperwork (receipts for the transfer + sales receipts from CWS) all have it listed as the LE6940.

hnoppenberger
12-29-2009, 6:12 PM
its off list. period.

hnoppenberger
12-29-2009, 6:13 PM
Certainly it's a Colt AR-15 (all) which is named in Appendix A (Roberti-Roos AW list)

check yourself.

SoCalDep
12-29-2009, 8:17 PM
its off list. period.

Seeing as how it might be difficult to convince the cop of the legality of one's firearm while sitting in the (very uncomfortable) back seat of a radio car by saying "hnoppenberger on Calguns said it's legal, period!", it might be a bit more beneficial to enlighten all of us with the background to your emphatic declaration.

Just sayin...

wilafur
01-06-2010, 6:05 PM
small spin, if you have the LE6940 upper assembly on an OLL, that should be kosher right?

xm177
01-06-2010, 7:38 PM
A Colt 6940 is off list. The masterminds behind the Kasler list decided to ban some by model & some by stamping. In the case of the Law Enforcement stamped lowers, the 6920 is the only designation. Hypothetically speaking, if the list read "Law Enforcement (all), then 6940 would be banned (similar to AR-15 (all)).

A quick call to Colt will confirm that the serial from a 6940 is indeed a 6940 model. Cold War Shooters is already actively selling 6940's in CA.

small spin, if you have the LE6940 upper assembly on an OLL, that should be kosher right?
You're fine. You can slap on any manufacturer's upper to an OLL as long as it meets minimal length, doesn't create a model that's banned (ie. Rock River senario), & in rare cases, fire from an open bolt (Colt LMG with open bolt BCG).

wilafur
01-06-2010, 10:03 PM
thanks for the clarification peacemaker

Herr_C4
01-26-2010, 2:29 PM
A Colt 6940 is off list. The masterminds behind the Kasler list decided to ban some by model & some by stamping. In the case of the Law Enforcement stamped lowers, the 6920 is the only designation. Hypothetically speaking, if the list read "Law Enforcement (all), then 6940 would be banned (similar to AR-15 (all)).

Along those lines, would that make a "Sporter Lightweight" illegal, but a "Match HBAR" legal?