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xxdabroxx
12-22-2009, 9:33 AM
Is there any way to get rid of them? We run thunderbird as our email client, and my spam filter catches most of it. I still hate the fact that they even reach my computer though.

ParallaxTactical.com
12-22-2009, 9:44 AM
Run your mail through gmail, then use TB to get gmail. Gmail's spam filters are very impressive.

glock_this
12-22-2009, 9:46 AM
I use SpamSieve (http://c-command.com/spamsieve/) and it is awesome - best I have ever used and used it for years because of that.. but only for a Mac as you didn't say what platform.

JaMail
12-22-2009, 9:54 AM
gmail has the best free filters out there. did you piss anyone off recently?

its an old trick, you sign up someone you dont like for a ton of spam sites, gay porn, regular porn, and lottery sites.

then you can get really mean and sign people up for gay porn magazines to be delivered to their work, care of their managers name.

gravedigger
12-22-2009, 9:55 AM
If you control your email addresses and they are easily changed, you can set up your email with a MANUAL key that senders must enter. This means discs with email address lists will become invalid shortly after they are created.

Each month, create a new email address, adding the month and year to the end of your name, and delete the previous month's address, with a 2-month overlap.

January 2010: name0110@company.com
February 2010: name0210@company.com
March 2010: name0310@company.com (drop name0110@company.com)
April 2010: name0410@company.com (drop name0210@company.com)

Each month, your email will need your name plus the month and year, and you can receive mail from someone who didn't get the word last month. Or you could choose a 3-month overlap, or 4 ... Respond to every legitimate email with a signature that spells out your email address policy. Eventually everyone will know how to send you an email by simply looking at a calendar and spammers won't bother to go through that trouble to add just one email address to their broadcast email lists.

The old email addresses won't be valid again for another 100 years!

Too much trouble? You could also use the A-L (A=January, B=February, etc. "namea@company.com") and the old email address would become valid again one year later.

Short of that, hunting down and killing spammers sounds good to me!

glock_this
12-22-2009, 9:57 AM
ts an old trick, you sign up someone you dont like for a ton of spam sites, gay porn, regular porn, and lottery sites.

then you can get really mean and sign people up for gay porn magazines to be delivered to their work, care of their managers name.

ha ha ha.. nice to see I am not the only one that does this

my filter lets through business related inquires that come via the form on my website - naturally of course - but now and then they turn out to be solicitations some jerk takes the time to fill out to try to sell me something... thats exactly what I do with those emails as my website clearly says the contact form is for clients or potential clients, not for job inquires or business solicitations.

xxdabroxx
12-22-2009, 10:37 AM
PC, no mac.

The rolling email is a great idea, but would be way to difficult for me to implement. There is no way i can get all of the people that email me information at random intervals to figure that out. (hint, i work with to many engineers)

Also, i have a gmail account and it is golden. Just my work account that is starting to get spam. Was hoping i could bite it in the *** before it gets out of hand like others at my work. they come in from a weekend and have a couple hundred emails.

jnojr
12-22-2009, 10:58 AM
I have had the same email address for about nine years now. It's been posted "in the clear" on Usenet thousands of times. If I were to count, I'll bet it receives dozens to hundreds of spams a day. I see maybe three.

SpamAssassin and procmail are wonderful things.

JDay
12-22-2009, 7:50 PM
Contact whoever runs your companies mail servers, I'm sure they can write a new inbound spam filter.

bigmike82
12-22-2009, 9:08 PM
Unless you're able to get a good anti-spam solution implemented (such as Barracuda...Postini...frontbridge), the Gmail solution is probably the best one.

JDay
12-23-2009, 12:37 AM
Unless you're able to get a good anti-spam solution implemented (such as Barracuda...Postini...frontbridge), the Gmail solution is probably the best one.

I seriously doubt his employer is going to switch to Gmail because of a little spam, this is something that the IT department needs to filter out. Spam filters are fairly simple to update.

ParallaxTactical.com
12-23-2009, 12:44 AM
I seriously doubt his employer is going to switch to Gmail because of a little spam, this is something that the IT department needs to filter out. Spam filters are fairly simple to update.

No switching involved. Have gmail pull via POP/IMAP/Exchange from the company server, and then the user pulls POP/IMAP through gmail.

Simple, elegant solution. Gmail's collective user base filters out more spam than any filter.

xxdabroxx
12-23-2009, 12:03 PM
No switching involved. Have gmail pull via POP/IMAP/Exchange from the company server, and then the user pulls POP/IMAP through gmail.

Simple, elegant solution. Gmail's collective user base filters out more spam than any filter.

is there a smiley for "over my head"? LOL

bigmike82
12-23-2009, 12:23 PM
"Spam filters are fairly simple to update. "
lol.

You've solved the spam problem with one quick simple update?

ParallaxTactical.com
12-23-2009, 1:18 PM
is there a smiley for "over my head"? LOL

Lol, If you trust me I can do it for you.

JaMail
12-23-2009, 1:24 PM
i used to use cloudmark. looks like they have a thunderbird client. this works great also.

http://www.cloudmark.com/desktop/download/

i used to rave about cloudmark until i switched to gmail. even my commercial websites get run through gmail now. just easier. the only thing cloudmark has a problem with seems to be outlook 2003 when your getting 2 or 3k emails a day, it stalls out and freezes up outlook. could also have to do with 1&1 mail servers.

i had all my catchall domain accounts pointing to 1 box and it would freeze at the 3k emails a day.

ldivinag
12-24-2009, 1:13 AM
your work needs to filter it at the server level, not at the user level...

who do you work for?

can the work afford such things?

JDay
12-24-2009, 3:30 AM
your work needs to filter it at the server level, not at the user level...

who do you work for?

can the work afford such things?

Afford? SpamAssassin is free.

http://spamassassin.apache.org/

JDay
12-24-2009, 3:31 AM
"Spam filters are fairly simple to update. "
lol.

You've solved the spam problem with one quick simple update?

All you do is add a new rule to the chain.

JDay
12-24-2009, 3:32 AM
i used to use cloudmark. looks like they have a thunderbird client. this works great also.

http://www.cloudmark.com/desktop/download/

i used to rave about cloudmark until i switched to gmail. even my commercial websites get run through gmail now. just easier. the only thing cloudmark has a problem with seems to be outlook 2003 when your getting 2 or 3k emails a day, it stalls out and freezes up outlook. could also have to do with 1&1 mail servers.

i had all my catchall domain accounts pointing to 1 box and it would freeze at the 3k emails a day.

1&1 isn't a very good company.

Barbarossa
12-24-2009, 9:16 AM
We run Ninja.

http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Email-Security/Exchange/

bigmike82
12-25-2009, 10:14 AM
"All you do is add a new rule to the chain. "
Yes, I'm aware of that.

My point was more along the lines of a single simple rule catching the spam for his account. Filtering spam while not filtering out the legit emails is not an easy, quick solution, especially given the different types of spam out there.

This also presupposes that their admin is running spam-assasin, and not some other form of spam-protection.