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LHC30
12-21-2009, 2:39 PM
State lawmakers to seek ban on sales of semi-automatic weapons

In response to recent shooting deaths, three state lawmakers say they want to ban the sale of military-style semi-automatic weapons in Washington.

By Molly Rosbach
Seattle Times staff reporter

In response to recent shooting deaths, three state lawmakers say they want to ban the sale of military-style semi-automatic weapons in Washington.
The lawmakers intend to propose the ban in the state legislative session that begins next month.
The legislation, called the Aaron Sullivan Public Safety and Police Protection Bill, would prohibit the sale of such weapons to private citizens and require current owners to pass background checks.
It is named for Aaron Sullivan, 18, who was fatally shot last July in Seattle's Leschi neighborhood, allegedly with an assault-style weapon.
Supporters say they also are motivated by the Oct. 31 slaying of Seattle Police Officer Timothy Brenton and the wounding of his partner. Police believe a .223-caliber semi-automatic rifle was used then.
The bill is backed by Seattle's police department, spokeswoman Renee Witt said. Also pushing it is Washington Ceasefire, a nonprofit that seeks to reduce gun violence. The group plans a news conference today to announce the proposal.
The lawmakers who plan to sponsor the bill are Rep. Ross Hunter, D-Medina; Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle; and Sen. Jeanne Kohl-Welles, D-Seattle.
The ban would cover semiautomatics designed for military use that are capable of rapid-fire and can hold more than 10 rounds. Semiautomatics designed for sporting or hunting purposes wouldn't be banned.
"If they're used in the army, used in the war that's what this ban is about," said Ralph Fascitelli, the board president of Washington Ceasefire.
Dave Workman, senior editor of Gun Week, a publication of the Second Amendment Foundation in Bellevue, said such a ban would punish law-abiding citizens who own such guns.
"I don't care if my neighbor has a dozen of the things; ... as long as he's not hurting anyone or breaking any laws, leave him alone," Workman said.
He also said he doesn't consider the gun police say was used to kill Brenton an assault rifle.
Hunter knows getting the bill through the Legislature would be difficult, because of concerns about limits on gun ownership. However, he thinks the ban is necessary.
"We don't allow people to own tanks or bazookas or machine guns, and very few people think that that's an unreasonable restriction," he said.
Kohl-Welles said the lawmakers are trying to be practical and aren't suggesting guns be taken from current owners.
"What we're trying to get at is there's no place to have sales of military assault rifles or weapons in this state," she said.
She also said she doesn't believe such a ban would violate the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms.
"Did the framers of our Constitution ever envision something like a semi-automatic weapon?" she asked.

Molly Rosbach: 206-464-2311 or mrosbach@seattletimes.com

Swatter911
12-21-2009, 2:47 PM
So much fail, so little time.

CAL.BAR
12-21-2009, 2:51 PM
Sounds vaguely familiar. I'm actually old enough to remember 1988.

Brianguy
12-21-2009, 3:49 PM
A little vague with that "military-style semi-automatic weapons." They propose a ban on camo 1911s?!

Flopper
12-21-2009, 3:49 PM
"Did the framers of our Constitution ever envision something like a semi-automatic weapon?" she asked.


Obviously the Framers were very simple-minded and never thought that military technology would advance any further :rolleyes:

stormy_clothing
12-21-2009, 4:08 PM
gee this will all make me feel better when 11 million illegals with fully automatic ak's pop out of the woodwork one day - Every time a latino friend of mine hears I have a WASR-10 I hear some story about how there uncles all have 25 real AK's apiece

leitung
12-21-2009, 5:06 PM
Good luck (not) with that, I don't think it will pass up there. It's not as blue as they think it is up there.

If it passes, it's off my list of places to live.

Carlosa
12-21-2009, 5:18 PM
"If they're used in the army, used in the war that's what this ban is about,"

they should just make sure to put that exact language in their proposed bill.
that way people can still purchase semi auto ar , ak, fal, etc, and they would still be exempt because they are nothing like their military counter parts (selective fire, full auto).
if only we could get uneducated folks to understand the difference.
if only....

Fot
12-21-2009, 5:29 PM
Sounds like a bill to show people they are trying.. So many holes in that one.

Gray Peterson
12-21-2009, 6:02 PM
This is a dup.

VW*Mike
12-21-2009, 6:03 PM
"Assault weapons" have been outlawed in CA for a decade now. I, a flag loving, tax paying, hard working citizen can probably never own one (not yet but maybe someday soon!) by walking into a store and paying my hard earned money for one in CA, yet most any of the "homies" can pick up the phone and have one in 10 minuets. Everybody knows these laws don't work, so why do they insist they do and try and pass them or keep them on the books? I think they know it but are living in denial and refuse to accept defeat. Idiots.

Gnzrme
12-21-2009, 7:20 PM
"Assault weapons" have been outlawed in CA for a decade now. I, a flag loving, tax paying, hard working citizen can probably never own one (not yet but maybe someday soon!) by walking into a store and paying my hard earned money for one in CA, yet most any of the "homies" can pick up the phone and have one in 10 minuets. Everybody knows these laws don't work, so why do they insist they do and try and pass them or keep them on the books? I think they know it but are living in denial and refuse to accept defeat. Idiots.

Because for the politician, it shows that you are trying to do something, for the gun ban people, its a step towards registration/confiscation...So for both, its win/win....

Now for the truth...it won't work and just ends up denying our rights even further....

jamesob
12-21-2009, 7:41 PM
lol, they don't even know if if the murders were done by so called "assault weapons" idiots.

picasso
12-21-2009, 8:14 PM
"Assault weapons" have been outlawed in CA for a decade now. I, a flag loving, tax paying, hard working citizen can probably never own one (not yet but maybe someday soon!) by walking into a store and paying my hard earned money for one in CA, yet most any of the "homies" can pick up the phone and have one in 10 minuets. Everybody knows these laws don't work, so why do they insist they do and try and pass them or keep them on the books? I think they know it but are living in denial and refuse to accept defeat. Idiots.

Right. And if there's a shootout between the law-abiding-gun-owners and the bad guys, surely the LAGO will be outgunned and all our shells are traceable.