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Stanze
12-01-2005, 12:23 PM
+ forward tact grip and bump-firing would = FUN!

Random thought, discuss.:D

bu-bye
12-01-2005, 12:43 PM
belts count as detach mags.

Sorry

Stanze
12-01-2005, 12:57 PM
belts count as detach mags.

Sorry

Is there a DOJ official text anywhere?

bwiese
12-01-2005, 1:27 PM
From http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/dwc.htm :


PC 12021
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(c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm
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PC 12276.1
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(d) The following definitions shall apply under this section:
(1) "Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
(2) "Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
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artherd
12-01-2005, 1:32 PM
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/sb23.htm
978.20 Definitions (a) "detachable magazine" means any ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with neither disassembly of the firearm action nor use of a tool being required. A bullet or ammunition cartridge is considered a tool. Ammunition feeding device includes any belted or linked ammunition, but does not include clips, en bloc clips, or stripper clips that load cartridges into the magazine.

Stanze
12-01-2005, 1:33 PM
Crap, so the belt-fed AR upper is illegal in CA. I was under the impression it was not. Thanks for the info.

artherd
12-01-2005, 1:55 PM
Crap, so the belt-fed AR upper is illegal in CA. I was under the impression it was not. Thanks for the info.

Only legal on registered pre-2000 California Assault Weapons. Sorry.

Hopi
12-01-2005, 5:04 PM
So...what if you just happened to own belted .223 before the year 2000, wouldn't that be just like owning a normal capacity mag (20+) before the ban?

artherd
12-01-2005, 7:52 PM
So...what if you just happened to own belted .223 before the year 2000, wouldn't that be just like owning a normal capacity mag (20+) before the ban?

YES. Infact I have a bunch of M27 linked 5.56mm (for the M249SAW) in my garage.

Theroetically, if you have one belt of 11 rounds or more, you can add to it untill it is over 22 rounds, then split it, etc. (think about that for a second...)

Grey area on wether you can legally shoot the whole belt and then re-load it. Most people play it safe and leave the last 11+ rounds intact.

Clodbuster
12-01-2005, 9:53 PM
If you split it, wouldn't you technically be "manufacturing" a new hi capacity magazine?

Clod


Theroetically, if you have one belt of 11 rounds or more, you can add to it untill it is over 22 rounds, then split it, etc. (think about that for a second...)

Grey area on wether you can legally shoot the whole belt and then re-load it. Most people play it safe and leave the last 11+ rounds intact.