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luckystrike
12-06-2009, 12:55 AM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/01-arx-160-assault-rifle.jpg

anyone ever had some triggertime with one of these?
any thoughts?

looks like it uses usgi 556 mags, gas piston too..

Jpach
12-06-2009, 2:16 AM
WTF it looks like an aborted Magpul Masada

Jpach
12-06-2009, 2:17 AM
What is the name of the gun?

Group B
12-06-2009, 2:21 AM
Beretta ARX-160

http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20ARX_160/prima_dieci.jpg

From Wikipedia:

"The Beretta ARX-160 is an assault rifle currently undergoing trials for the Italian armed forces as part of their 'Soldato Futuro' ('Future Soldier' in english) programme."

http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20ARX_160/Beretta_ARX_160_1.html

Richie Caketown
12-06-2009, 3:07 AM
its looks like Keltec made it

IsaacGlass
12-06-2009, 3:40 AM
The pistol grip reminds me of a GSG-5

DanHuuN
12-06-2009, 4:18 AM
WTF it looks like an aborted Magpul Masada

THIS!!!!

reidnez
12-06-2009, 7:36 AM
Ewwwwww!!!

wash
12-06-2009, 8:33 AM
I've got parts of a real Beretta battle rifle, a garand.

I'll probably build it on a Springfield receiver but a lot of it is Italian.

8200rpm
12-06-2009, 9:10 AM
I've got parts of a real Beretta battle rifle, a garand.

I'll probably build it on a Springfield receiver but a lot of it is Italian.

+1

That Beretta is not a battle rifle, it's a poodle shooter.

M1 Garand, K98, HK G3, FN FAL, M14, etc. are battle rifles.

Quiet
12-06-2009, 9:39 AM
+1

That Beretta is not a battle rifle, it's a poodle shooter.

M1 Garand, K98, HK G3, FN FAL, M14, etc. are battle rifles.

Beretta BM-59 is a battle rifle.
It was basically Beretta's version of the M14 (a M1 Garand in 7.62x51 that used detachable magazines).

bombadillo
12-06-2009, 9:44 AM
Too much going on but we'll see. If it becomes adopted then everyone MUST have it. We all know how it goes. The first pic doesn't look that bad, the second one with all the goodies, I'm not digging those sights and other things on it.

pontiacpratt
12-06-2009, 9:47 AM
http://www.aiad.it/upload/aziende/azienda_/Beretta_Rx4%20Storm.jpg
How's about the RX4 Storm.

Quiet
12-06-2009, 9:50 AM
http://www.aiad.it/upload/aziende/azienda_/Beretta_Rx4%20Storm.jpg
How's about the RX4 Storm.

Beretta gave up on it and gave it to Benelli to develope.

Benelli MR-1 (http://www.benelliusa.com/rifles/benelli_mr1_self_defense_rifle.php)
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii103/cvhoss/benelli_mr1.jpg

8200rpm
12-06-2009, 9:54 AM
Beretta BM-59 is a battle rifle.
It was basically Beretta's version of the M14 (a M1 Garand in 7.62x51 that used detachable magazines).

I was referring to the OP's "battle rifle", not the Guido Garand, M1 or BM59.

Quiet
12-06-2009, 9:58 AM
I was referring to the OP's "battle rifle", not the Guido Garand, M1 or BM59.

Ahh, i see. Thought you were referencing the post before yours.

bohoki
12-08-2009, 6:46 PM
haa MR-1

i suppose i dont think they realized that we used to call people MR's when we were kids

i wonder if it is compatable with the standard shotgun stock

tomd1584
12-08-2009, 7:12 PM
looks straight out of Starship troopers...fugly IMO

bondmid003
12-08-2009, 7:43 PM
Who cares if its ugly, if it shoots well, has a decent price point and Beretta supports it with accessories it will gain a following

CHS
12-08-2009, 8:01 PM
Looks no different than every other plastic battle rifle coming out these days:

HK G36
FN SCAR
Magpul/Bushmaster/Remington Masada/ACR/MCR/whatever it's called this week.

luckystrike
12-08-2009, 9:38 PM
+1

That Beretta is not a battle rifle, it's a poodle shooter.

M1 Garand, K98, HK G3, FN FAL, M14, etc. are battle rifles.

what makes it a poodle shooter? the 556?
so is the M16 I guess
:rolleyes:


Looks no different than every other plastic battle rifle coming out these days:

HK G36
FN SCAR
Magpul/Bushmaster/Remington Masada/ACR/MCR/whatever it's called this week.

and I want 2 of each

swerv512
12-08-2009, 9:50 PM
FIXED...
its looks like my 3 old old nephew made it

i know looks can be deceiving... but i cant get past that ugly lookin thing...

X-NewYawker
12-08-2009, 9:53 PM
Beretta BM-59 is a battle rifle.
It was basically Beretta's version of the M14 (a M1 Garand in 7.62x51 that used detachable magazines).

BTW a fantastic rifle (along with the BM 62 ) and had the strongest magazines of any 308 I've ever seen... Had one -- went with teh ban -- should have registered it.
dum
dumb
dumb

Gryff
12-08-2009, 10:45 PM
"The Beretta ARX-160 is an assault rifle currently undergoing trials for the Italian armed forces...

Italy has an army?

B Strong
12-09-2009, 6:07 AM
I'm not familar with the new one you linked to, but I've had experience the AR70 in civilian and NFA configuration.

Great piece, no liners in the handguard. They get hot real fast.

X-NewYawker
12-09-2009, 7:16 AM
what makes it a poodle shooter? the 556?
so is the M16 I guess
:rolleyes:




Finally someone on THIS site admits it! Thank god!

xibunkrlilkidsx
12-09-2009, 8:04 AM
it looks like it is uneccisarily tall. the top rail just looks to tall for what it could be.

8200rpm
12-09-2009, 5:09 PM
what makes it a poodle shooter? the 556?
so is the M16 I guess
:rolleyes:


Yes! The M16/AR15 and varmint guns in general have been referred to as poodle shooters for decades. I take it that you're <25 years old? Let me guess, never heard of Jeff Cooper either.

A "battle rifle" does not fire a round designed for prairie dogs.

luckystrike
12-11-2009, 9:47 AM
Yes! The M16/AR15 and varmint guns in general have been referred to as poodle shooters for decades. I take it that you're <25 years old? Let me guess, never heard of Jeff Cooper either.

A "battle rifle" does not fire a round designed for prairie dogs.

tell that to NATO, the US military and general Kalasnikov(AK74 was a 5mm round too).

Jeff Cooper is one of those guys that thinks nothing has progressed in the last 100 years. well they were not doing brain sugury 100 years ago.

and since you want to pull the age card out for some retarded reason, no I am not 25 years old.
for the record im 19.

gn3hz3ku1*
12-11-2009, 10:36 AM
dude we all know if someone get's it into CA.... people will be jealous

CHS
12-11-2009, 10:53 AM
dude we all know if someone get's it into CA.... people will be jealous

That's assuming:

1.) It can be imported into the US AT ALL.
2.) They even make a semi-auto version

gn3hz3ku1*
12-11-2009, 11:22 AM
That's assuming:

1.) It can be imported into the US AT ALL.
2.) They even make a semi-auto version

yup thus the if...

gun toting monkeyboy
12-11-2009, 11:25 AM
tell that to NATO, the US military and general Kalasnikov(AK74 was a 5mm round too).

Jeff Cooper is one of those guys that thinks nothing has progressed in the last 100 years. well they were not doing brain sugury 100 years ago.

and since you want to pull the age card out for some retarded reason, no I am not 25 years old.
for the record im 19.

(sigh) Ok, if you look at the post, he said that he thought you were <25, which means less than 25. 19<25, so he pretty much called it. He wasn't being retarded, merely pointing out that you had been raised in the time after the 5.56 and 9mm became our official calibers. So your views on these cartridges are likely to be significantly different than older shooters.

As for Kalishnikov, if you have read any of his interviews or watched any of them translated into English, you would know that he does NOT like the 5.45, and thinks that they should have stuck with the 7.62 round instead.

Jeff Cooper is dead, so he doesn't really think anything currently. But many of his ideas were the basis for modern firearms thinking, so he had to have gotten something right. As for the comments on people not changing their thinking in 100 years, well, you are 19. That is only to be expected. Despite what you see in movies and on TV, the 5.56 round is not the ideal battle cartridge. That is why we still use the 7.62x51 for our larger machineguns and sniper rifles. It is also why so many new small arms cartridges are coming out. Because the 5.56, while useful, is inconsistant in terms of combat lethality. Especially at longer ranges, short range, and with shorter barreled weapons. So, next time, before you get your panties in a wad, try to understand what people are trying to tell you. Don't take it as in insult to you, or your favorite weapons system without getting more details.

-Mb

8200rpm
12-11-2009, 11:31 AM
And for the record, I really do like the 5.56. I even own an AR.:eek:

But, that still doesn't change the fact that my AR is a poodle shooter and not a battle rifle.

gun toting monkeyboy
12-11-2009, 12:36 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like them too. And I have no problem using them for self defense. But they are not battle rifles. Nor is it the end-all, be-all assault rifle cartridge.

missiontrails
12-11-2009, 12:43 PM
:Ivan:

ar15barrels
12-11-2009, 12:54 PM
what makes it a poodle shooter? the 556?
so is the M16 I guess

Yes on both accounts.

ar15barrels
12-11-2009, 12:56 PM
Finally someone on THIS site admits it! Thank god!

It's never been a secret.
You see, the bad guys these days are all built like poodles.

ar15barrels
12-11-2009, 12:57 PM
I take it that you're <25 years old? Let me guess, never heard of Jeff Cooper either.

A "battle rifle" does not fire a round designed for prairie dogs.

:rofl2:

This.

luckystrike
12-11-2009, 1:36 PM
:rofl2:

This.

coming from someone called AR15 barrels...... why not AR10 if you dont like the 556

ar15barrels
12-11-2009, 1:43 PM
coming from someone called AR15 barrels...... why not AR10 if you dont like the 556

Oh, I love the 5.56.
It's great for shooting poodles.

I have an AR-10 in case I ever need a battle rifle though. ;)

luckystrike
12-11-2009, 1:45 PM
(sigh) Ok, if you look at the post, he said that he thought you were <25, which means less than 25. 19<25, so he pretty much called it. He wasn't being retarded, merely pointing out that you had been raised in the time after the 5.56 and 9mm became our official calibers. So your views on these cartridges are likely to be significantly different than older shooters.

As for Kalishnikov, if you have read any of his interviews or watched any of them translated into English, you would know that he does NOT like the 5.45, and thinks that they should have stuck with the 7.62 round instead.

Jeff Cooper is dead, so he doesn't really think anything currently. But many of his ideas were the basis for modern firearms thinking, so he had to have gotten something right. As for the comments on people not changing their thinking in 100 years, well, you are 19. That is only to be expected. Despite what you see in movies and on TV, the 5.56 round is not the ideal battle cartridge. That is why we still use the 7.62x51 for our larger machineguns and sniper rifles. It is also why so many new small arms cartridges are coming out. Because the 5.56, while useful, is inconsistant in terms of combat lethality. Especially at longer ranges, short range, and with shorter barreled weapons. So, next time, before you get your panties in a wad, try to understand what people are trying to tell you. Don't take it as in insult to you, or your favorite weapons system without getting more details.

-Mb

1.= insugnificant.

2.= ok dont tell the general, tell all of russia.

3.=the US uses those in beltfed weapons like the 240 wich most of the time if fixed to something, or a BA 0331, because noone wants to drag a 40 pound gun plus a mile of belt behind them.statistics (I know its just 'statistics') show that once a machinegunner on a battlefield opens up with one, his life expectancy is about 45 seconds and your insinuation to me wearing panties and having them in a wad, DO NOT say something like that THEN tell me to not take it "as an insult" or personally.

the 556 is NOT my fav weapon system, altho I do like the Idea of being able to carry 1100 rounds on my person without much trouble and fire it without wearing earpro and still be able to hear whats going around around me.
the 556 is being used by half the world for a reason.

luckystrike
12-11-2009, 2:12 PM
:rofl2:

This.


ps

when it is "<"..that means greaterthan. as in greater than 25 years old