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Ahhnother8
12-03-2009, 10:42 AM
Sac Valley Shooting Center:

December 12 - Folsom Special (300, 500, 600, 800 yards)
December 13 - Palma match (800, 900, 1000 yards)

Folsom Special course of fire will be 2 sighters and 10 for record at 300, 500, 600, and 800 yards. Twenty minutes for each stage and the target will be pulled and marked for each shot.

The Palma match is unlimited sighters and 15 shots for record at 800 yards, 2 sighters and 15 shots for record at 900 and 1000 yards. Time limit is 22 minutes for each string.

Both are prone matches, so all shooting is on the ground. All types of rifles are welcomed (except .50's) - there will be target rifle, f-class, and possibly tactical awards if there are enough competitors in each class. Muzzle brakes will be allowed, but those using them will be given much grief. Each shooter will be pulling targets and scoring throughout the day. After each shot, the target will be pulled and marked. Meet at Culbertson Cove (the building/camping area below the 1000 yard line) between 7:00-7:30 for squadding. Cost is $20.

O'Connell will be doing squadding right there. It is a semi-informal match, with much harmless banter and fun. If you have never shot at mid to long range before, just show up with a 100, 200, or 300 yard zero. There will be plenty of help with comeups from there. We typically have a BBQ immediately after the match. Hamburger or hotdog and chips and drink for $2.

Hope to see a few new shooters out there.

Lane

phish
12-03-2009, 10:46 AM
Should I do back to back weekend treks to Sac? Will I survive the holiday season by doing so?

:confused:

Pthfndr
12-03-2009, 6:00 PM
Most of the guys on this board are likely not familiar enough with prone shooting with a sling that they would feel comfortable doing either match.

BUT..............

Every single one of them that has a scope on their AR and lives within a couple hours of the Sac Valley range should come out for the Saturday Dec 12 Folsom Special match. It would be a great opportunity for them to shot mid to long range with lots of people around to help them out.

wooger
12-03-2009, 6:03 PM
You can't use a pack or bipod?

Ahhnother8
12-03-2009, 6:27 PM
You can't use a pack or bipod?

Yes, you can use either one.

Pthfndr
12-03-2009, 7:37 PM
You can't use a pack or bipod?

Yes, you can use either one.

For F class. Which is what class you would shoot in with a scoped rifle. If it's a scoped AR, then F T/R class specifically.

come one, come all! It's a fun match.

Fjold
12-03-2009, 7:41 PM
I'd love to try the Folsom Special, that sounds like fun. What's the target size for F class, 1/2 MOA?

phish
12-03-2009, 7:43 PM
yessir, 1/2 MOA

Ahhnother8
12-05-2009, 2:42 PM
Should I do back to back weekend treks to Sac?

:confused:

Of course....

Spyder
12-05-2009, 4:27 PM
Huh...I may come out and watch and see what I can learn! ...pretty sure I've got nothing going on this weekend!

swerv512
12-06-2009, 3:26 AM
hmmmm.... trying to be there since i got called into work and have to miss December's match today...

popeye4
12-06-2009, 8:38 AM
The Folsom match sounds interesting on Saturday. My highpower range only goes to 300 yds and I need to get zeroes out past that (to 600 yds) on my AR. Do you have appropriate sized highpower targets for iron sights?

Ahhnother8
12-06-2009, 10:44 AM
Do you have appropriate sized highpower targets for iron sights?

Yes, we shoot the NRA prone targets at all yard lines = 1 MOA x-ring. It is basically two matches going on at the same time. We shoot conventional prone with sling, iron sights, etc. While f-class shoots right along with us with scopes, rests, etc. Though the f'ers get punished with a 1/2 MOA x-ring. :D

Lane

Waldo
12-07-2009, 8:41 PM
I'm interested in trying this out, but have only two rifles to work with...

The AR has a scope with only another 12 MOA of elevation when zeroed at 100
and a bolt gun with a scope that should have enough elevation to work..both in 308.

Suggestions and advice? Stay with the bolt gun or try the AR?

Ahhnother8
12-07-2009, 9:43 PM
I'm interested in trying this out, but have only two rifles to work with...

The AR has a scope with only another 12 MOA of elevation when zeroed at 100
and a bolt gun with a scope that should have enough elevation to work..both in 308.

Suggestions and advice? Stay with the bolt gun or try the AR?

You will need about 22 minutes of elevation to get from 100 to 800 yards. If not enough elevation is available, it is possible to hold over the target. You just have to be consistent in the hold over.

Another consideration for 800 yards is the bullet. In .223, the 77 will get there but the wind will push it all over. The 80 is the only real option past 600 yards, and preferably the 80 Berger or 80 JLK. The .308 offers more options. The 800 yard line is not too difficult, and the only way to know if your equipment is up to the task is to try it. Gotta remember that 880 yards is half of a mile. That's a pretty good poke. Every time out is a learning experience. You'll never learn, while sitting on the couch at home... ;)

Lane

Waldo
12-08-2009, 6:55 AM
Lane,

Thanks for the insight and advice. I've never had a chance to shoot the longer distances with either rifle, so it's a journey into uncharted waters for me!:D

Guess I better start loading up some ammo...

swerv512
12-08-2009, 8:31 AM
definitely coming now...

Waldo
12-08-2009, 8:22 PM
Storms forecasted...I take it this is a rain or shine event, right?:)

swerv512
12-08-2009, 8:52 PM
^^^
Bring poncho....

Ahhnother8
12-09-2009, 11:55 AM
Storms forecasted...I take it this is a rain or shine event, right?:)

Yes, to a point. Though we are not masochistic.

One never knows what it will be like at the Sac Valley range. If it pours down rain, we can always stand around the wood burning stove out there.

Pthfndr
12-09-2009, 7:07 PM
Yes, to a point. Though we are not masochistic.

One never knows what it will be like at the Sac Valley range. If it pours down rain, we can always stand around the wood burning stove out there.

Wussy. The tacticool crowd even shoots in the down pours. They have the blown primers to prove it!

Waldo
12-09-2009, 7:35 PM
I've heard the mantra, "If it ain't rainin', you aint trainin'"

Guess that would apply here:D

Ahhnother8
12-10-2009, 8:13 AM
Wussy. The tacticool crowd even shoots in the down pours. They have the blown primers to prove it!

Yeah, whether to shoot, and in how much rain, is definitely a function of IQ!!

Wow, it all makes perfect sense now. ;)

Lane

Waldo
12-10-2009, 7:16 PM
Well, I'm new to this long range game and looking to learn as much as I can. I was going to try to make it out to the event last weekend to pick some brains, but the holiday mess caught up with me and squashed any spare time I had.

I'd like to try the AR, even though it wasn't made for the longer distances, just to see what my limits are with it. Short barrel (14.5) in 308, but it amazes me with three-quarter inch groups at 100 yards.

Probably should drag the bolt gun along just in case, though.

Ahhnother8
12-12-2009, 3:45 PM
On Saturday we shot 300, 500 and 600 yards before the rains hit. It was relatively warm first thing, but the wind kept building. It only got up to about 15 mph at the max, so it wasn't too bad at all.

Sunday is the 800, 900 and 1000 yard match. Looks like less rain too.

Pthfndr
12-13-2009, 3:19 PM
Did you guys shoot Sunday or did it get rained out?

I decided to shoot the steel match Saturday because I didn't want to shoot the HP match and have it get called because of rain. Something to do with IQ function :)

AyeGuy
12-13-2009, 4:58 PM
Dammit I missed this thread. When will the next Mid Range match be?

Linus
12-13-2009, 5:12 PM
Are gas guns allowed in the Mid-range match or is it only for Bolt guns?

Pthfndr
12-13-2009, 6:10 PM
Are gas guns allowed in the Mid-range match or is it only for Bolt guns?

Gas guns are aallowed. Lots of AR in service rifle and match rifle configuration, and occasionally one with a scope in F T/R.

Pthfndr
12-13-2009, 6:12 PM
Dammit I missed this thread. When will the next Mid Range match be?

The next Mid Range match will be Feb 14, 2010.

3x600 (you shoot from 600 yards 3 times, 22 rounds per string of fire)

And another 3x600 on April 11.

Ahhnother8
12-14-2009, 6:36 AM
Did you guys shoot Sunday or did it get rained out?

I decided to shoot the steel match Saturday because I didn't want to shoot the HP match and have it get called because of rain. Something to do with IQ function :)

Yeah, we shot under the roof at the 1000 on Sunday. It was on and off showers and drizzle, so we stayed dry. It was a quartering wind, so we only needed 8-9 minutes of windage.