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choprzrul
12-01-2009, 4:33 PM
I have a Polytech M14s with the factory open sights. I was at the range Sunday and shot 2 six shot groups at 100yds. Both groups patterned the same and were roughly 4" I then concentrated on the 3' round plate at 300 yards and proceeded to hit it 5 out of 5 times. The last time I was at the range, I hit it 10 out of 10 times, so I have a 15 shot string going on it.

My question is this: can I put better open sights on this rifle that will make it easier for me to see the target? My 44 year old eyes are having trouble focusing on the 10" round black target at 100yds and the front sight. It currently has a rear peep hole with a front post. The front post is roughly the size of a fence post when acquiring a target.

How do people engage targets at 500 or more yards with open sights when the front post covers the target completely? Can someone recommend sights that will help improve on my current setup?

Edited to add photo of target:
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/choprzrul/IMG_2271.jpg
Bottom group shot first, adjusted sights and sight picture and shot top group. Probably less than 4" now that I look at it. Rings are 1" apart.

double_action
12-01-2009, 4:39 PM
You'll never be able to fix the sights, you should get rid of that awful rifle...in fact I'll take it off you hands for nothing. :D

Okay, really you can get a NM front sight post, it's thinner than the normal post, or get used to shooting the 6 o'clock hold.

choprzrul
12-01-2009, 4:42 PM
You'll never be able to fix the sights, you should get rid of that awful rifle...in fact I'll take it off you hands for nothing. :D

Okay, really you can get a NM front sight post, it's thinner than the normal post, or get used to shooting the 6 o'clock hold.

Forgive my ignorance, but can you expand on "...NM front sight post..."?

I did actually go to the 6 o'clock hold for the second group that I shot Sunday. Now I have a fuzzy black round ball on top of my front sight rather than a fuzzy black half moon on top of my front sight! Does a colored (i.e. a green tritium) front sight help with clarity of the target?

double_action
12-01-2009, 4:49 PM
The NM (stands for "National Match") front sight post is just thinner (.062 I think) than the standard post.

choprzrul
12-01-2009, 4:56 PM
Does the accuracy seem about right for that rifle? What are the pros and cons of mounting a sight (scope or dot) on it? I am shooting ball ammo made in Argentina.

Are there weak points on the rifle that I should be attentive to?

M1A Rifleman
12-01-2009, 6:20 PM
5-6" were acceptable for Military M14's. Depends on ammo also. My SA shoots 11/4" 4 shot groups with my simple handloads. With GI Ball the groups open to 2-3 inches.

popeye4
12-01-2009, 7:21 PM
You can get a NM rear hooded aperture: http://www.creedmoorsports.com/store/product.php?productid=16375&cat=288&page=1 It gives you 1/2 minute elevation adjustment (the hood rotates and has an offcenter hole) and the aperture is a bit smaller. You will still have the 1 minute windage adjustment unless you modify the windage knob.

If you are having a hard time getting a sharp front post, you can get a B. Jones insert here: http://www.bjonessights.com/SR.html

That will sharpen it up. I had to go to one when I hit my late 40's.

With iron sights, you should be focusing on the front sight post. The target will be fuzzy, nothing you can do about that.

Here's an interesting write-up on the Chinese M14's from Clint McKee at Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14S_Eval.htm