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7x57
11-26-2009, 7:43 PM
Everybody knows that ESR is one of us, but note this from The Rampantly Unofficial Linus Torvalds FAQ (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/linus/):


12. What does Linus do when he's not hacking Linux?

...

He drinks beer (especially Guinness). Occasionally he shoots pistols. He does not combine these two activities.


Funny I'd never heard that before.

7x57

ldivinag
11-27-2009, 2:33 AM
who/what is ESR?

jmlivingston
11-27-2009, 6:44 AM
Everybody knows that ESR is one of us

who/what is ESR?

What he said, who's ESR?

elSquid
11-27-2009, 11:38 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond

-- Michael

7x57
11-27-2009, 1:00 PM
elSquid already covered it, but in hacker circles ESR (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EricRaymond) is a Three Letter Person (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ThreeLetterPerson). His "gun nut" page (http://www.catb.org/~esr/guns/) discusses how he got interested in firearms (http://www.catb.org/~esr/guns/personal.html):


Guns and Me

From age twelve I always wanted to be a Heinlein character when I grew up. So I always knew I'd have to get around to learning how to use firearms someday. Also (partly as a result of early Heinlein exposure) I'm a libertarian with strong gun-rights convictions, and I've felt vaguely like a hypocrite for years not being armed myself. I finally got off my butt about this in early 1997, and have since discovered that I truly enjoy playing with guns.

Before picking up a weapon I took the NRA's safety and handling course. While I believe everybody has an inalienable right to be armed for self-defense, ignorance and unsafe gun-handling can kill you. Don't play stupid!

Before acquiring my own heat, I shot at targets with S&W .38 Special and .357 Magnum revolvers, a .44 Magnum single-action revolver, a S&W 9313 9mm semiauto, a Firestar .40 semiauto, a very odd pistol/SMG hybrid called a Calico, and a Colt .45 ACP. For comfort and accuracy I found the 9313 the best of the bunch, a sweet dream to shoot. But having done my homework, I'm partial to the big-slow-bullet theory of stopping power. And it happened that the first time I fired a .45 I scored a 30-foot bull's-eye, and that I was shortly afterward offered the opportunity to buy that same weapon. I jumped at it.

So my personal arm is a Colt M1991A Officer's Model semiautomatic pistol, the small-frame six-shot 3-5/8"-barrel version of the classic .45 ACP design. It's small enough to conceal but has excellent stopping power. Mine has a matte-black Parkerized finish, Pachmayr wraparound diamond-scale grips, and definitely looks like something you would not want to be staring down the business end of.

To my pleasure (and somewhat to my surprise when I started), I am a fairly good shot. At twenty-one feet, shooting my .45 two-handed from either Weaver or isosceles stance, I can reliably put a clip through the palm-sized heart area of a human-silhouette target, or I can call head shots and make them. At thirty feet, or shooting one-handed either hand, I've almost never missed the torso.

I attribute this to having trained in Tae Kwon Do for seven years before I started. The state of mind necessary to shoot accurately is the same combat no-mind you need to take into the sparring ring. And the training helps me maintain the upper-body strength to hold a steady sight picture with a .45 while staying fairly relaxed.

I'm hoping to get into tactical shooting, the kind of pistol-combat simulation the International Defensive Pistol Association does. This seems like it would be much more fun than stationary targets, which are beginning to seem too easy.

I bought my wife Cathy a Smith and Wesson Model 60 for her 1997 birthday (she'd taken the NRA course right along with me). This is a small-frame, five-shot alloy revolver with a bobbed hammer, designed for concealed carry. It's magnaported for recoil compensation.

There's a good story in that. Cathy and I weren't yet married when we started shooting, so when we went to Chester County Courthouse to apply for our marriage license, we had one other piece of unfinished business. So we exited the inner section of the courthouse each carrying two forms. The guards at the door, having worked there for years, of course instantly recognized the other form in Cathy's hand as an application for concealed carry permit.

One of the guards looks at me, looks at Cathy, looks at the form in her hand, looks at me, looks at the form, sidles up to me, puts a hand on my shoulder and murmurs loudly "You know...it's not too late to back out."

Good thing I like tough-minded women, eh?


What is useful about people like ESR is that they have street cred in an entirely unrelated field, so they are useful ambassadors for the RKBA in a particular community.

It's all about extending the franchise.

7x57

nick
11-27-2009, 1:24 PM
What is useful about people like ESR is that they have street cred in an entirely unrelated field, so they are useful ambassadors for the RKBA in a particular community.

It's all about extending the franchise.

7x57

Although the percentage of geeks who are also firearms owners and often enthusiasts is surprisingly (to a non-geek) high. There isn't a single person in my team at work who's not a gun owner. If you take the entire IT department, 5 out of 18 people are not gun owners. Two of them can't easily own guns yet, being on H-1 visa and all. Both were gun owners in India though, so I expect them to become such here once they get their green cards.

Come to think of it, the number of geeks among the Calguns Board members and the moderators here is quite high, to put it mildly.

JDay
11-27-2009, 4:38 PM
Two of them can't easily own guns yet, being on H-1 visa and all. Both were gun owners in India though, so I expect them to become such here once they get their green cards.

All they need to do is get a hunting license and keep it valid.

nick
11-27-2009, 8:57 PM
All they need to do is get a hunting license and keep it valid.

I explained it to them. However, they're "trying to be careful". Sounds familiar, I'm sure :)

Canute
11-27-2009, 11:37 PM
I recall that Eric Raymond is pretty staunchly conservative/libertarian. From what I know about Linus I'm not surprised.

Corbin Dallas
11-28-2009, 6:27 AM
I stopped reading when he said "Clip" referring to a magazine...

I'm sure he would feel the same way if I said the "core" of the linux operating system... referring to the "kernel".

Yes, it's just a word, but the proper use of the word makes the sentence valid.

7x57
11-28-2009, 1:48 PM
I stopped reading when he said "Clip" referring to a magazine...

I'm sure he would feel the same way if I said the "core" of the linux operating system... referring to the "kernel".


Perhaps, it was in fact jarring, but you can carry precision to an exclusionary excess. Did you not notice that he didn't grow up with guns, but rather acted on an intellectual conviction? He is not and doesn't claim to be as knowledgeable about firearms as he is about unix. It is very very likely that he learned the word from movies and/or games long before he actually fired a shot.

That said, he can be somewhat idiosyncratic with regard to hacker terminology as well, thus certain controversies with his editorship of the jargon file. None of that detracts from the quality of his *ideas*, be they good or bad.

7x57

ldivinag
11-28-2009, 5:47 PM
http://www.geekswithguns.com/