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C.G.
06-04-2005, 5:48 PM
I should be getting my 2 receivers this month and I am thinking of building one para, hence the questions:

1) What is the length with stock folded with an 18" barrel(I might have to go with the 21" if 18" doesn't meet the minimum length)?

2) It has been mentioned in the past that the para build cannot use stripper clip cover or stipper clips because of the recoil spring assembly. Is this true?

Thank you in advance. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Leo762
06-04-2005, 8:26 PM
ok my reply answers neither of your questions! http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

i dont know for sure if you can use the stipper clip cover or not - but i think the para has its own rec cover so probably not (i dont know for sure) but even if you cant you can still really easily and relatively effectively load the rifle through the ejection port - this has been my choice of loading even when i have a stripper clip cut cover - i use the original one.

it takes the same amout of time if you load one by one and once you get used to it - you can do it pretty quickly.

-hanko
06-04-2005, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by cg:
I should be getting my 2 receivers this month and I am thinking of building one para, hence the questions:

1) What is the length with stock folded with an 18" barrel(I might have to go with the 21" if 18" doesn't meet the minimum length)?

2) It has been mentioned in the past that the para build cannot use stripper clip cover or stipper clips because of the recoil spring assembly. Is this true?

Thank you in advance. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I did a post about this around a month ago, you could do some searching under my user name & probably find it.

My para measures 27" long with a 16" barrel; the stock adds approximately 9.75" when it's unfolded.

Paras came with either 20" or 17-3/8" barrels. If you're looking at meeting the prk 30" limit, a naked 17-3/8" barrel won't do it, you could add one of the shorter length muzzle devices...maybe a standard imbel or a short Stoll. The imbel will add about 1-3/8", I haven't measured a shorty Stoll yet. Make sure whichever you use is not able to launch a grenade http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

When a para carrier is held open, it's in exactly the same spot as a regular carrier, so the issue is not about the recoil spring assembly...it's about the fact that no one makes a stripper clip top cover with the para guide rod assembly; stripper clip covers went on conventional non-folding guns.

Loading 1-by-1 is what you're left with, as removing the pistol grip will give you essentially a rifle that you can barely hold & shoot. For that reason I can't see spending the extra bucks for a prk para with a fixed mag...it's no way to load what's supposed to be a battle rifle.

-hanko

C.G.
06-05-2005, 12:04 AM
Hanko,
I really appreciate your input, exactly what I was looking for. I just may drop the para, in spite of the fact they look sharp and build two regular Fals instead. I don't about the Fal, but I do know I can load my Fab-10 a lot faster with a stripper clip guide than one by one. I do remember the thread from while back, but at the time I don't think you were exactly sure about the length of the para. Anyway, thank you!

-hanko
06-05-2005, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by cg:
Hanko,
I really appreciate your input, exactly what I was looking for. I just may drop the para, in spite of the fact they look sharp and build two regular Fals instead. I don't about the Fal, but I do know I can load my Fab-10 a lot faster with a stripper clip guide than one by one. I do remember the thread from while back, but at the time I don't think you were exactly sure about the length of the para. Anyway, thank you!

CG, glad I could help. Since I don't live in the prk half the year, I got the para originally intended for a gun that could stay loaded on my truck's back seat...as short a barrel as legal & having a folding stock sure doesn't hurt. Plus Century had a superb sale on para kits a while back so I was forced into buying a few. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You will find one more is never enough.

Hang out a little on the marketplace and gunsmithing forums on the fal files & you'll get more info than you need.

-hanko

C.G.
06-05-2005, 10:37 PM
Hang out a little on the marketplace and gunsmithing forums on the fal files & you'll get more info than you need.
I actually do, but most there do not have to comply with PRK's laws, so detailed info on PRK para was not available when searched. But I got my answers, thanks again. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Adventurer_96
06-06-2005, 2:52 PM
Good thread, I was wondering if there was a way to crack this nut but it seems that loading from the side is the only way to do it.

I wish I had seen their sale, I need a para kit badly!