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eccvets
11-12-2009, 2:56 PM
I'm thinking about buyin ga mosin nagant from big 5 for 100 bucks but always thought there was no dros fee for buying old/historical guns and there was no wait. I was informed today by the guy behind the counter that they still needed 30 bucks for the fees plus taxes and other stuff and there was a 10 day wait as well. Is this right? I mean paying nearly half the price of the gun in fees seems a bit excessive. I saw the ad and said why not (I am an impulse buyer) even if it is more then ususal for a mosin nagant as I have seen then on the internet going for 50-80 dollars, ususally under 80 but now that I see its nearly 2X that price, the "why not" factor doesnt seem like its worth all the trouble and hassle.

pullnshoot25
11-12-2009, 3:06 PM
I'm thinking about buyin ga mosin nagant from big 5 for 100 bucks but always thought there was no dros fee for buying old/historical guns and there was no wait. I was informed today by the guy behind the counter that they still needed 30 bucks for the fees plus taxes and other stuff and there was a 10 day wait as well. Is this right? I mean paying nearly half the price of the gun in fees seems a bit excessive. I saw the ad and said why not (I am an impulse buyer) even if it is more then ususal for a mosin nagant as I have seen then on the internet going for 50-80 dollars, ususally under 80 but now that I see its nearly 2X that price, the "why not" factor doesnt seem like its worth all the trouble and hassle.

FTF PPT does not require the DROS and 10 day wait.

Buy from a store, it is business as usual.

Get your C&R license, life is much simpler.

Dirtbiker
11-12-2009, 3:30 PM
In Ca. rifles that are 50+ years old are exempt from a dealer transfer requirement between eligible private parties. (provided firearm isn't an AW by name or definition).

01 FFLs in Ca are however NOT exempted from this requirement.

If you want one just browse the private sales section and you can have one by the end of business today, FTF, no paperwork required.

eccvets
11-12-2009, 3:42 PM
how much is a C&R license?

JAGGUY
11-12-2009, 3:52 PM
how much is a C&R license?

The most expensive $30 you will ever spend!!!
-g

eccvets
11-12-2009, 4:08 PM
how long is it good for? what exactly can i do with it again? does it make it so i dont need to pay the dros fees or wait the 10 days?


from what little I can make out, I can only buy and sell from other C&R dealers and that I gotta keep some kinda log as well as get certified and jump thru even more hoops after that. It seems a bit much for someone which just wants a cheap project rifle which he can spend his free time cleaning/polish up, and perhaps shoot a few rounds thru and perhaps actually hit something like a soda can out at 100 yards with. At this rate, I'd must as well build an AK-47 or buy something more worth the time and effort.

oldrifle
11-12-2009, 4:41 PM
+1000000!! :laugh:

The most expensive $30 you will ever spend!!!
-g

paul0660
11-12-2009, 5:12 PM
To buy a mosin from a fellow Californian, you don't need a 03 license, just a DL and not be prohibited from owning firearms. That Big 5 mosin was going to cost you about $140 out the door, and chances are good it isn't a very good one. Cruise the forums and you might find something better, for less, get to handle it before you buy, and meet another Calguns supporter too!

I think everyone should note that the bound book 03's keep is a big responsibility, inspections are a pain, and you are required to keep the bound book for 20 years.

DarkHorse
11-12-2009, 5:30 PM
C&R application is not a big deal, and the hoops are small. My process, from the day I ordered the forms to the day I received my license was 3 weeks.

After you get it, there are no hoops. Unless you want the COE, which is not federal, but CA jargon. With C&R in hand, you need to transmit a copy to one of the internet dealers you've seen (Aim Surpls, J&G, etc.), and can have your rifle delivered to your door.

C&R's are good for interstate collecting.

Rem222
11-12-2009, 6:23 PM
I agree with others here. Keep your eyes on the Private Firearms Sales. I met some good people there.

G-Man WC
11-12-2009, 7:36 PM
I've picked up two very nice collectible 91/30 MN's here in the past month. Keep your eyes open or do a Mosin search. But be warned, Mosin's breed like rabbits. After a while, you don't know where they came from. Good luck. -g

eccvets
11-12-2009, 11:04 PM
I have always seen these for sale and figured they would be cheap enough to buy one to test one out seeing as I know no one which owns one. It seems the ones here always get scooped up before I ever get the chance to pm the seller.

bplvr
11-13-2009, 12:32 AM
Mosin's breed like rabbits watching bunny porn.

Cost of a C&R ...$30.00
Mosin,with a C&R .... $100.00 ea.
Cost of 3 safes to breed Mosins in..........priceless.