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Seesm
11-07-2009, 8:35 PM
I am NOT saying anyone on here did it but it is a rant for ME and you all can jump in and rant too....

I went to a un-official range (first time EVER) today with my buddy James (he goes alot to this place) There was garbage and hulls and shells.... I mean piles... I bet 5000-8000 rds. EVERYWHERE... on the rocks in the grass in the woods. Was sick and ugly.

It was SOO bad I decided not to share the spot with others for fear it will only get worse. There was even a spot where 2-3 trees had almost been shot all the way through... A 10 foot round tree... I am no tree hugger but we need to respect the land a "little" so we can continue and share the land. Antis love to show off places like this to SHUT EM down...

I am going to go back soon with about 10 garbage bags (I bet I can fill them all and MORE) And a sign (want to bet it get's shot up?)

WHY do people do this?

BRING in 400 rds of ammo take out 400 rds and if you can not find all yours take a few of someone elses (they may have misplaced)

So does ANYONE on here NOT clean up after shooting?

Even though I had no bags wiht me I took at least 100 rds out and all but 1 of my .40 and a few .22's

PLACES get closed for a reason... Makes me sad.

Two Shots
11-07-2009, 8:51 PM
Some people are just ***holes and think they have a right to leave thier **** anywhere they want and let other people clean up after them.

Seesm
11-07-2009, 8:54 PM
YOu said a mouthful there two shots... It is sick. I have shot with LEO's who leave after shooting and leave it all behind... I want to kick em in the behind... :)

Requiem
11-08-2009, 2:05 AM
YOu said a mouthful there two shots... It is sick. I have shot with LEO's who leave after shooting and leave it all behind... I want to kick em in the behind... :)

I'm disgusted when I see civilian ranges. Brass EVERYWHERE. Every single range I've gone to in the Marine Corps, we left the place spotless... better looking than when we first arrived.

Seesm
11-09-2009, 12:53 AM
As I said in another thread your the man requiem... I want to change the world I guess.... go figure. :P

Spyder
11-09-2009, 12:03 PM
...love it when people leave brass behind. It goes in my "needs to be reloaded" box.

Targets, trash and other crap is different though. I always clean up all my own junk.

caoboy
11-09-2009, 1:15 PM
...love it when people leave brass behind. It goes in my "needs to be reloaded" box.

Targets, trash and other crap is different though. I always clean up all my own junk.

I pick up a little brass every time I go to a certain range...even though it says that there is no brass picking up. Sometimes, you see that once fired fresh .44 mag shell, and you just HAVE to pick it up. I mean...you could reload that, and save what, 3 dollars a round? LOL :D

I always clean up my space when I'm done shooting...I see others who just leave, and I'll pick up trash I see left behind...one time I acquired half a box of clays....we ended up shooting those the rest of the day at the range.

Darklyte27
11-09-2009, 2:09 PM
I'm disgusted when I see civilian ranges. Brass EVERYWHERE. Every single range I've gone to in the Marine Corps, we left the place spotless... better looking than when we first arrived.

field day the range in about 10 mins with a company of recruits.

L4D
11-09-2009, 3:00 PM
Went out to Orosco today and we cleaned up after ourselves. left the spent brass though, sorry.

ponderosa
11-12-2009, 8:49 AM
I built myself two of these, and print/copy my own targets out for it. Take it in, Bring it out. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu24.htm

Pick up the brass, because, why wouldn't you? Even if you don't reload now... you sure may in the future. I have brass for calibers I don't own (yet) even ;)

Saddens me to see a place close because of this. There are not THAT many places. But unfortunately, there are a lot of ignorant (to be kind) people these days.

diginit
11-12-2009, 8:51 PM
Not everyone cleans up their mess. I reload, So I don't mind if there are a few cases left laying around. But the target matter is another story. As for the LEOs. Most seem to think they are above the law and another LEO will most likely let them off the hook where a civilian would be cited.
Big Brother is Here!

Seesm
11-15-2009, 12:29 PM
Some if the mess where I am talking I am positive is LEO... But who cares we ALL need to keep places clean...

Heck even a bad guy who wants to go shooting would be bummed if a area is fenced off and not legal to shoot right... So CLEAN UP come 1 come all!!

BIGCHRIS
11-16-2009, 10:37 AM
Seesm, you want to go down there and do some clean up, im game for whatever,Im sure your talking about the place off of 80 :) I went there this weekend for the first time, and was blown away by how much crap was all over. I ended up packing out as much as I could at the time.

Seesm
11-16-2009, 8:30 PM
Heck yeah lets you, my new buddy "Itsmrjames" and I head over maybe this weekend... Not sure if we are talking the same place. PM me.. Thanks man!

leitung
11-16-2009, 8:36 PM
where is it, I may be willing to help out depending on how far it is...

Seesm
11-16-2009, 9:46 PM
Local but sorta secret... Pile in a car all blindfolded and we can do it... JK :)

Seesm
11-17-2009, 9:31 PM
So I have been going back and forth with a few Calgunners and we are still working it out. I want to meet up for Sunday this weekend the 22nd at 9 am off the Auburn Ravine exit in Auburn. I am thinking at the Raleys?

I was going to do this post and see who I can get together...

Please PM me with any questions, ideas or if you into this.

I think if we make it out there that early we will be able to get alot done and show the people who also use it we care and want to continue to be able to shoot there. And yeah we can have some fun and shoot too. :) Thanks folks

All we need is some heavy duty contruction 3mil bags maybe some stick magnets to help it along....

I also tonight spoke to Steve at P.L.I.N.K. and he is seeing if he can help us in some way... :)

leitung
11-18-2009, 12:08 AM
I am down for the time and date.. I gotta be at work at 3pm so I will need to leave by 2pm.

I will shoot out a PM, I also need to talk to you about getting some gunsmithing stuff done as well, if I can ever get my financial situation straight. I have been living on $3.64 in my bank account since Nov. 3rd.

Seesm
11-18-2009, 8:21 AM
Cool on SUnday let me know.. Thanks! And $3.64? You got me beat :) Hold out till stuff is better, I am hoping not to go anywhere...

BIGCHRIS
11-18-2009, 8:27 AM
This should be fun, and we will get it cleaned up pretty good...

Seesm
11-18-2009, 9:59 PM
Soooo who do we have in so far...?
BIGCHRIS and Scoob_I_E and me?

Itsmrjames has a hot date on saturday night I hear so he is out... WTH? :)

Jump on folks..

Seesm
11-19-2009, 7:26 PM
WOW your all really jumping on board trying to help keep legal shooting places open. Wooo Hooo...

So far 3 of us are going only...

leitung
11-19-2009, 11:58 PM
I would go, but I have to do something for my college class saturday at 8am in grass valley (a 1 hr driver from my house) and then on sunday I have the sac gun show early, needless to say I wont be getting much sleep around those times.

a1c
11-20-2009, 9:46 AM
There's an informal range I go to on a regular basis. It's a beautiful, yet sad, dirty place. I try to leave it cleaner than how I found it, always bringing it the leaf rake and some plastic bags. Tons of shotgun shells all over the place, all sorts of brass, and people leave beer cans and plastic jugs everywhere.

I know for a fact the rangers, who find themselves cleaning it up, are already considering closing it down. This has happened in other places in the county already. Just because some *******s don't clean up after themselves. Those people should have their ammo confiscated.

I always thought the polluting idiots were kids. Until the other day, just as we were unpacking, a 40-something guy who had been shooting his 12-gauge at plastic jugs just packed his shotgun and left with his wife, leaving the place littered with his targets and shells. I wonder how he'd feel if I dumped his crap all over his lawn.

Seesm
11-20-2009, 6:48 PM
I would have found his address(via a plate search) and delivered ALL his trash (not more) just his to his front yard... he would know what was up then.

I have a neighbor who I have seen toss cans and other garbage on my road. We know all the other neighbors and they too complain about this person and his families trash.

So I gather up all the trash on the road and toss it on there yard on a regular basis. BUT it just piles up the never clean that up either.

Must be just the way they are huh?

I was riding my motorcycle once and a guy threw a beer bottle on the ground and I put it into his truck as he rolled off and he got out of his truck and we boxed over his dirtiness... :) Good times. He took his bottle home btw :)

bohoki
11-20-2009, 7:03 PM
bovine hill is always a nightmare you can swim in the shotshells

last time i was there i saw a hide a bed couch various computers, tailgate, minibike , alloy rims with tires

i did my best but i only had a paper sack it was to the brim with shotshells and i had a gallon ziplock baggie full of my brass

2 things i hate most of all are shotshells and broken bottles

Seesm
11-20-2009, 7:44 PM
Ahh maybe its a lost cause... I mean with the people who are not jumping on board to do this with us... Frustrating really.

Seesm
11-21-2009, 9:57 AM
Well I guess there is some support on this but not tons. I was hoping for more people who want to be able to shoot around here. So we do have a few Cal Gunners meeting up so that is great.

Raleys parking lot 9am in Auburn off the Auburn Ravine Exit off HWY 80 eastbound from Sacramento and Westbound from Lake Tahoe.

Again meetup time is 9am, please bring a shovel, some trash bags a rake, and a stick magnet... Those are some great tools to clean up a shooting range. Any other ideas please add to this right away!! Thanks!

What we will do with the dump stuff is everyone will take there own bags of shooting trash to the dump and send me the receipts to get re-imbursed from a person who has stepped up with his organization and should be able to reimburse us.

As long as he is able to do this it will cost us nothing but TIME and effort.

Sounds great to me as I was going to pay for what I could out of my very little money I have. :)

Fjold
11-21-2009, 10:37 AM
Bring a plastic leaf rake and large lawn&leaf bags, it will make the clean up a lot easier. (Been there, done that)

Seesm
11-21-2009, 9:20 PM
Yup and a magnet stick... shovel too..

Seesm
11-22-2009, 12:33 AM
Countdown t minus about 8.5 hrs... :)

diginit
11-27-2009, 10:47 AM
Countdown t minus about 8.5 hrs... :)

So how did it go? Got before and after pics? If people see the difference, Maybe they will be more inclined to assist.

Seesm
11-27-2009, 12:24 PM
It went good for just 2 full size men and two little boys showing up... Scoob_i_e posted a thread up in this forum...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=243263 Here is the link... (funny he got a better response from the pics)

diginit
11-27-2009, 8:43 PM
It went good for just 2 full size men and two little boys showing up... Scoob_i_e posted a thread up in this forum...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=243263 Here is the link... (funny he got a better response from the pics)

It doesn't suprise me. Once people realize that some folks care, maybe they will join in and help next time. Good luck!

bill104
11-28-2009, 9:26 AM
maybe Part of the problem is that you stated this was a Secert spot and wasn't willing to share it with fellow cal gunners, as if implying cal gunners are the ones making this mess, I would hope any cal gunners reading a thread about a clean up would not be leaving his spoils behind, as for me I always clean my messes and uasally a little of others, I'm not willing to be blind folded, also My opinion has to be it can't be to much of a serect place if theres that much mess there, and being that its not far from Colfax, my guess is thats where all the fools that got Colfax closed is going now.

Seesm
11-30-2009, 2:06 AM
maybe Part of the problem is that you stated this was a Secert spot and wasn't willing to share it with fellow cal gunners, as if implying cal gunners are the ones making this mess, I would hope any cal gunners reading a thread about a clean up would not be leaving his spoils behind, as for me I always clean my messes and uasally a little of others, I'm not willing to be blind folded, also My opinion has to be it can't be to much of a serect place if theres that much mess there, and being that its not far from Colfax, my guess is thats where all the fools that got Colfax closed is going now.

How would you get that from ANYTHING I posted...? I will not blast the location on here but PM you with it... Not the easiest place to find but not the worst either... BUt PM me if you want directions...

BTW ANYONE that goes to help clean will of course then in turn "KNOW the location" :P