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mikehaas
11-07-2009, 9:59 AM
Just put this together for display on any website you can post it to...

http://ammoguide.com/gfx/banners/noab962banner.gif (http://nramemberscouncils.com/petition/)

The banner should link to:
http://nramemberscouncils.com/petition/

(FYI, the URL to the banner graphic is...
http://ammoguide.com/gfx/banners/noab962banner.gif
...it's best to link to it directly in case we update the image.)

Thanks all!

(BTW, it's now in the banner rotation of AmmoGuide.com (http://ammoguide.com/))

UPDATE: Have been asked for the actual HTML code to paste into a webpage. <SLAPHEAD>Shoulda included it.</SLAPHEAD> Here y'go...

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<a href="http://nramemberscouncils.com/petition/"
target="_blank"><img
src="http://ammoguide.com/gfx/banners/noab962banner.gif" width=468
height=60 border=1
alt="CALIFORNIANS - REPEAL AB962!"></a>
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ricochet
11-07-2009, 10:19 PM
I use Firefox 3.5.5 (latest) and I see frame for banner w/text "CALIFORNIANS - REPEAL AB962" but IE8 worked fine.

JustGone
11-07-2009, 11:24 PM
Why do they need a full address and name on the petition...I don't really want to put all of that info there, Name ok, State and City ok, but street address no.

LibertySympathizer
11-08-2009, 8:59 AM
Trying to find a way to phrase this without it being taken the wrong way, so here goes:

Is there a process/way to have it voted on directly by the people like on the Nov ballots?

The reason is I don't have much faith in this.

The fight against AB962 was prob the most active and organized I've seen in a long long time, and yet it was still passed.

The reps didn't listen to us when they sent the bill to the Gov, and the Gov didn't listen to us when we told him to veto, so why do we think they will listen to us to repeal it right now?

Please don't get me wrong, I will still support the effort and try to get others on board, but I know the reaction I'll get from a lot of people, will be "why bother, my voice won't be heard."

Apathy will be a bigger hurdle I believe.

So, is there any way we can circumvent them?

obeygiant
11-11-2009, 9:45 AM
Why do they need a full address and name on the petition...I don't really want to put all of that info there, Name ok, State and City ok, but street address no.

The signatures need to be verified against voter registration records to prove that they are indeed real people since there is no actual physical signature,Mike Haas please correct me if I'm wrong,

bwiese
11-11-2009, 10:49 AM
The fight against AB962 was prob the most active and organized I've seen in a long long time, and yet it was still passed.

The reps didn't listen to us when they sent the bill to the Gov, and the Gov didn't listen to us when we told him to veto, so why do we think they will listen to us to repeal it right now?

So we give up?

#1: the bill passed only by 1? 2? votes.
#2: the Gov signed during a crazy period (water, budget, etc.)
#3: the Gov vetoed near-identical bill before in '06 (AB2714, IIRC)
#4: with a full-court press combined with lawsuit we can pull a few votes off
#5: legislators will have a chance to "vote both ways" on an issue :)

wildhawker
11-11-2009, 11:17 AM
Do understand that I share your frustration with AB962. If nothing else, know that you are not alone.

The fight against AB962 was the beginning of a new chapter in our fight for gun rights here in California. The people you saw mobilize to defeat the bill poured themselves into the issue and, without question, did everything in their power to make sure that the politicians knew we were paying attention... make no mistake, they heard us, and they know we're coming back for more. A *lot* more.

Gun rights advocates and activists have a long and arduous road ahead of them. When I look to this community and see a passionate and resolved body of patriots, eager to brush off the dust from October 11th and form up for the next campaign, I am as heartened as I am confident that we shall fight again, and we shall prevail. There will be no enduring struggle without casualties, and I do understand some may choose apathy and inaction to battle scars and disappointments. As frustrating as that element can be, we will fight for them, too.

For every person who should see AB962 as a loss, there are many more who see it as an opportunity. The gun rights giant is awake, and it's pissed.


Trying to find a way to phrase this without it being taken the wrong way, so here goes:

Is there a process/way to have it voted on directly by the people like on the Nov ballots?

The reason is I don't have much faith in this.

The fight against AB962 was prob the most active and organized I've seen in a long long time, and yet it was still passed.

The reps didn't listen to us when they sent the bill to the Gov, and the Gov didn't listen to us when we told him to veto, so why do we think they will listen to us to repeal it right now?

Please don't get me wrong, I will still support the effort and try to get others on board, but I know the reaction I'll get from a lot of people, will be "why bother, my voice won't be heard."

Apathy will be a bigger hurdle I believe.

So, is there any way we can circumvent them?

H Paul Payne
11-11-2009, 4:04 PM
The signatures need to be verified against voter registration records to prove that they are indeed real people since there is no actual physical signature,Mike Haas please correct me if I'm wrong,

I'll chime in with an answer.

These are "Letters in Support of Assembly Bill 373" and not a formal "petition" used for a ballot measure, etc. In this case, these letters come from any California citizen in support of AB373.

Those signers do not have to be registered to vote. But IMO, it sure is a shame that some probably aren't .

Paul

bwiese
11-11-2009, 4:16 PM
Those signers do not have to be registered to vote.
But IMO, it sure is a shame that some probably aren't .


It's a shame. Just like a guy I saw at the Cow Palace show last weekend...

.. the *very* nice staff at the Golden Gate NRA MC booth was getting folks to sign petitions, etc. One dude walked by with two rifle cases and refused to sign and walked away.

I ran up to him - "I don't like being on lists".

I told him he can get on a "Do Not Call" list.

"I just don't wanna be on a list," he said.

And he'll prob come here or elsewhere in a month or two and wonder "why we're not doing anything".

LibertySympathizer
11-11-2009, 9:01 PM
So we give up?

No of course not.

The main emphasis of my post was really the question:

Is there a process/way to have it voted on directly by the people like on the Nov ballots?

So that we don't have to rely on them and their backroom deals.

wildhawker
11-11-2009, 10:33 PM
Ballot initiatives are a bad idea for gun issues in CA.

We're winning. Keep your chin up and assist the NRA/CGF/CGN as much as you can.


No of course not.

The main emphasis of my post was really the question:



So that we don't have to rely on them and their backroom deals.