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Mr.CRC
11-05-2009, 9:02 PM
Hi:

I want to buy some guns but I'm making a big fuss over picking a gun safe.

I have a 22.0 inch wide space in my apartment. That's where it must go. The choices have narrowed down to Stack-On 16-gun safes, Amsec model TF5517, or Mutual Safes (via Direct Safe) model MS-5922.

The fire ones waste quite a bit of space with the insulation. I'm undecided about whether I should bother with this, or get the lighter, easier to handle Stack-On. The Amsec and Mutual are a bit more secure with

However, none of these are really safes, nor are they rigorously rated for fire anyway! A serious safe is described by this guy here:

http://www.corneredcat.com/Safety/storage.aspx

So none of these really qualify. I'm considering to forego the fire insulation to get more space, just get the lighter Stack-On which I can handle without much help, and call it a day. I may invest in a small true fire safe later for important docs and perhaps ammo.

There is another benefit of the Stack-On, it will be easier to drill the back panel to make holes so I can bolt it to the studs, rather than the floor. I don't want to drill the floor here. Most of my furniture is secured to the studs, so that will buy enough time to prevent burglary (presuming I successfully implement my electronic security system plans).

I'm going to call the guy who wrote the article tomorrow and see if he has any recommendations. Then I need to just decide something.

Ugh!

Thanks for reading and comments, if you have any!

jben
11-05-2009, 9:35 PM
Check here http://www.diamondbackgunsafes.com/ for the Model GS5922LE. It fits your dimensions, has fire rating and is made of 10 gauge steel. I searched hard and couldn't find a better delivered deal. I see they come with electronic locks now. I would request a dial lock...but that's just me.

liketoshoot
11-05-2009, 9:52 PM
guns are not cheap, Stack-on "safes" are cheap. You are investing money in guns buy something that will keep them safe.
Check out these at Sun welding safes,http://sunweldingsafes.com/products/ponyexpressseries.html

Mr.CRC
11-06-2009, 7:02 AM
Check here http://www.diamondbackgunsafes.com/ for the Model GS5922LE. It fits your dimensions, has fire rating and is made of 10 gauge steel. I searched hard and couldn't find a better delivered deal. I see they come with electronic locks now. I would request a dial lock...but that's just me.

I think that is actually the same Mutual Safes MS-9522 that I had seen at Direct Safes, since it has the same dimensions, weight, etc. I think this is a made in China box with the lock assembled in California (the lock may also be made in China for all I know.)

I'm inclining toward actually constructed in USA safes, thanks to the next tip from "liketoshoot".

Thanks for the input, though.

Mr.CRC
11-06-2009, 7:16 AM
guns are not cheap, Stack-on "safes" are cheap. You are investing money in guns buy something that will keep them safe.
Check out these at Sun welding safes,http://sunweldingsafes.com/products/ponyexpressseries.html

Thanks for the link.

Now this is a step in the right direction. Again toward something heavy, but perhaps I just need to deal with that. They do have models which I can fit into my space. Interesting though, that Sun Welding doesn't even attempt to rate them as "UL residential security containers". I will have to call and ask what they mean by "test certified to 1200 for 30 minutes."

This is educational:

http://www.klsecurity.com/ul_fire_rating.htm

nick007g
11-06-2009, 10:54 AM
Just get a stack on gun cabinet and load it up with ammo, no one will carry it away and with an apartment you have to worry about the weight of a safe on the floor/damage.

here is a good deal w/free shipping and made in the USA http://www.amazon.com/Stack-GC-14P-14-Gun-Security-Cabinet/dp/B001G7WAZ4