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ANARCANGEL
11-05-2009, 7:10 AM
Just got it and have yet to fire a round through it. I was wondering what would be the best way to break it in? Should I avoid letting the barrel get too hot? Any info would be great appreciated. I don't want to hurt my baby:o

MasterYong
11-05-2009, 7:12 AM
Break-in procedures are fake, made up by the industry to get you to shoot more ammo and waste your barrel's life through excessive cleaning.

Make sure you lube the bolt carrier group real well, a lot of ARs like to run WET.

Otherwise... SHOOT IT!!! :D That thing should be bomb-proof. Don't worry about hurting it.

One of my ARs has nearly 600 rounds through it and I've never cleaned it. I'm going to just keep going to see how far it can go...

pipboy
11-05-2009, 7:20 AM
Give it a good cleaning before you take it out for the first time, then have fun and dont worry about it. You won't hurt your baby. It's built to shoot.

WhiteHot
11-05-2009, 7:24 AM
Yanks the BCG and oil the crap out of it. Clean the barrel. Put it back together. Shoot it. Re getting too hot... I wouldn't be too worried about it but I wouldnt make turn your first session with it into bumpfire madness :)

erik18
11-05-2009, 7:27 AM
Shoot the crap out of it!!!!

evidens83
11-05-2009, 8:03 AM
Lube the BCG and run it wet!

Ravenslair
11-05-2009, 8:22 AM
Just shoot it.

BTW, searching for "barrel break" resulted in the following:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=221709 (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=221709)
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=229974
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=233915
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=237106

ren
11-05-2009, 8:50 AM
my 2h shot fine right out the box.

Untamed1972
11-05-2009, 8:57 AM
Load magazine:

Insert magazine into mag-well.

Tap

Tug

Rack

Bang x10

Reload and repeat.

ChrisO
11-05-2009, 9:09 AM
Load magazine:

Insert magazine into mag-well.

Tap

Tug

Rack

Bang x10

Reload and repeat.

Haha with some re wording this would be a very funny statement but yes basically what he said make sure you run it wet...

Black Majik
11-05-2009, 9:12 AM
Prior to taking it to the range, run a solvent soaked patch through the bore. Follow by a dry patch. Lube the BCG, inside of the receiver, get some grease in the trigger group, then go out and shoot it like you stole it.

WhiteHot
11-05-2009, 9:21 AM
run a solvent soaked patch through the bore. Follow by a dry patch.
minimum

Lube the BCG, inside of the receiver
better

get some grease in the trigger group
best

then go out and shoot it like you stole it.
:13:

kf6tac
11-05-2009, 9:47 AM
Load magazine:

Insert magazine into mag-well.

Tap

Tug

Rack

Bang x10

Reload and repeat.

Haha with some re wording this would be a very funny statement but yes basically what he said make sure you run it wet...

Yes, this is also a useful procedure in other contexts. And in said contexts, "run it wet" is helpful as well.

Untamed1972
11-05-2009, 10:26 AM
Haha with some re wording this would be a very funny statement but yes basically what he said make sure you run it wet...


:drool5: :kiss: :wub: :whistling: :devil2: :sleep1:

mds2004
11-05-2009, 10:28 AM
Buy lots of ammo.
Clean and lube new gun.
Shoot said ammo.
Take home and clean.
Clean well because of the copper build up.
All is broken in.

johnrunner89
11-05-2009, 11:12 AM
My Stag ran great right out of the box and I didn't even need to sight it in, you can lube it up a little if you like. Just go out to the range, be safe and have fun.

xxdabroxx
11-05-2009, 11:24 AM
pull the trigger repeatedly. :D

DJBSR
11-05-2009, 12:44 PM
Run a bore snake throught her and shoot the heck out of it.

ANARCANGEL
11-05-2009, 2:07 PM
Wow!! Thanks guys for all the input. Now I feel more at ease about getting started. Now I have one more question....OK two more questions. What type of lube should I use, and what is a BCG?

sonico
11-05-2009, 2:12 PM
http://estore.websitepros.com/stores/1891705/catalog/Enh%20Bolt%20Group.jpg

(hotlinked)

sonico
11-05-2009, 2:15 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=237434&highlight=lube+ar-15

I would try that out for lube suggestions. It boils down to run the BCG pretty wet, specifics in the thread above.

armygunsmith
11-05-2009, 2:22 PM
Lube it, load it, and shoot it. Repeat as needed.

Josh3239
11-05-2009, 2:36 PM
... two more questions. What type of lube should I use, and what is a BCG?

BCG = Bolt Carrier Group

For range work any lubricant should be sufficient; CLP, Mobil 1, Slip 2000, Vagisil, whatever. Just put tons of it on the BCG, you cannot lube it too much. The more the better for break in. This article is great, it was written by Pat Rogers who writes for several gun magazines, has real world experience, and is probably the best tactical carbine instructor out there: http://www.ar15.com/content/swat/keepitrunning.pdf

xxdabroxx
11-05-2009, 2:36 PM
What oils do you currently have? List them and we can tell you the ones that will suffice.

BCG is bolt carrier group.

Lube, just about any somewhat viscous oil. not wd40, and not gear oil either. Just about anything in between will work wonderfully.

high_revs
11-05-2009, 3:10 PM
I shot 18" SPR today for the first time. The only prep I did was run a dry patch before heading out, not a solvent patch then followed by a dry patch. I thought some manufacturers would run a oil patch before shipping since before the craze, the rifles wouldn't really be flying off the shelf. So a solvent patch would be nice to do I guess.

I had a difficult time putting the Noveske upper to my N4 lower (my whining written in rifles gallery). The BCG was lubed, though not quite wet. I forgot to bring a punch and a hammer so I can remove the takedown pin to further lube it. I had a couple of FTF today. Oddly, it was when I only had 2 more rounds in the magazine (10/20 pmag, which works on all my other rifles). I forgot to bring extra mags though.

I know lubing the BCG would've helped a lot and prevented the FTF! But that sucker (takedown pin) is so tight. I can't even pull the extended take down pin with ring (and i wasn't staying long; just sighting it in). So.. lesson learn is... lube it good. lube it wet. just lube it! or in my case, bring the proper tools so you can lube it at the range (i had a small bottle of CLP in my bag.)

I just shot it like normal. no 1 shot, clean, 2 shot, etc. These were my groupings on iron sights at 25yds from the get-go. Oddly, no BUIS adjustment and they were carried over from my RRA Varmint A2 20" when I realized the front sight was wrong (needed a gas block type sight for front). The groupings ain't that great for iron sights at 25yds, but i'm a believe in Noveske now. I shot just as well on my Noveske Recce from the get-go. I cannot get same grouping on my CMMG carbine, RRA Varmint A2 24" or it's 20" brother of the same model/type. Dunno why. same ammo too. :( these were on my cheapish ammo. 55gr M193 from sportsman guide. I think one of grouping are the 55gr Sellier and Bellot. I didn't have to crack open the Black Hill 77gr SMK either or my Federal 69gr SMK (which I used to shoot the Recce first). So I guess bulk ammo is also as accurate from the get-go with BUIS and 25yds. :) Cheaper than my first outing with the Recce which only saw (and still sees) the Federal 69gr SMK.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/goldenset/oll/iron_sights_n4_spr.gif

Jyruiz
11-05-2009, 3:24 PM
Good stuff to know, I shoot my AR-15 for the 1st time on Saturday.

ArkinDomino
11-05-2009, 3:59 PM
You have an unfired stag?
:confused:

Good...
:43:

Return it and save more $$ and go buy a BCM or a Noveske.
:p

:hide:

Someone had to say it....

BroncoBob
11-05-2009, 4:16 PM
Just shoot it.

BTW, searching for "barrel break" resulted in the following:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=221709 (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=221709)
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=229974
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=233915
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=237106

This, shoot the shzt out of it.

AlliedArmory
11-05-2009, 4:23 PM
Lube, Load, Shoot

Vanguard
11-05-2009, 4:23 PM
Run a patch through the barrel, spray a squirt of break free on the BCG and go to town.

ANARCANGEL
11-05-2009, 8:14 PM
What oils do you currently have? List them and we can tell you the ones that will suffice.

BCG is bolt carrier group.

Lube, just about any somewhat viscous oil. not wd40, and not gear oil either. Just about anything in between will work wonderfully.

All the lube I have right now is just gun oil...like Hunters...which I use when I clean my guns. Will that work?

MasterYong
11-06-2009, 6:00 AM
All the lube I have right now is just gun oil...like Hunters...which I use when I clean my guns. Will that work?

Yes.

Heck... sewing machine oil will work LOL

I just use whatever I have around. I'm more picky with some of my other guns but ARs aren't safe queens- they can TAKE abuse so don't worry about it. Mostly I use cheap gun oil, hoppes, something like that (whatever Longs drugs has on the shelf haha) and I've never had a single malfunction with 4 ARs that I've built.

WhiteHot
11-06-2009, 6:54 AM
Lube points:
http://tinyurl.com/y9oowrv
Field stripping:
http://tinyurl.com/ycntpga

MasterYong
11-06-2009, 7:02 AM
WOW that seems excessive... guy sure has a lot of posts though...

WhiteHot
11-06-2009, 7:09 AM
Ya, but remember, a lot of these guys also bring 25lb AR's loaded with everything including bayonets to the range ;) Excessive is the norm.

That chart includes ALL lube points. I just threw it up for future reference. I wouldnt do it all the time. That would be like repacking your wheel bearings every time you do an oil change :)

MasterYong
11-06-2009, 8:34 AM
Yeah I've never lubed anything on my ARs but the BCG and a light oil on the buffer spring (force of habit, prolly not even necessary). I put a little grease on the trigger group when I put them together but that's it.

high_revs
11-06-2009, 11:26 AM
same here. maybe a drop at the FG spring but then i don't touch it for many months! i did read it's not usually recommended to oil the buffer spring that much or to use dry lube. i used dry lube the last time. there were a few threads here about lubricating the buffer spring/tube. gets dirt accumulating easily though i never saw it being an issue on any of my rifles. my noveske recce has lube on it but it was maybe gel-like oil, i.e. thicker than oil but almost like moly grease! i had had to take the H buffer from my recce rifle into my spr since my H buffer is still on backorder.

bwiese
11-06-2009, 11:36 AM
Just got it and have yet to fire a round through it. I was wondering what would be the best way to break it in? Should I avoid letting the barrel get too hot? Any info would be great appreciated. I don't want to hurt my baby:o

While 20" Stags have non-chrome-lined barrels, a good cleaning/brushing should be all it takes, esp as these are not premium barrels.

Noted custom gun mfgr Gale McMillan says that break-in of even "match" high grade bbls is a waste of time and just reduces usable bbl life.

For 16"/14.5" Stag rifles, these have chrome-lined barrels. Lube the gun and go shoot it.