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bwiese
11-04-2009, 12:12 PM
$300 Armalite middy 16" upper....

- 16" chrome-lined 1/9" twist bbl
- midlength gas/handguards
- flattop, no carry handle included
- A2 front sight assy
- no bolt/carrier assy included


http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=BRK15A4CBA2&ReturnUrl=Categories.aspx?Category=28b8778f-8357-4102-baea-247b9316bc95

bigcalidave
11-04-2009, 12:35 PM
Hmmm maybe I get an eagle upper for my eagle lower? Cheap!

Mr.Pickles
11-04-2009, 1:01 PM
thanks now I can work on a 308 build.

bwiese
11-04-2009, 1:10 PM
Hmmm maybe I get an eagle upper for my eagle lower? Cheap!

Get the ARmalitem, not the Eagle. Armalite is chrome-lined, Eagle ain't.

gun toting monkeyboy
11-04-2009, 1:23 PM
Ok, why are these ones so cheap?

PanchoVilla
11-04-2009, 1:59 PM
Or for $400 you can get the complete kit with the BCG. It doesnt have the front A2 sight though it looks like it has a little mini rail there instead.

http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=U15A4CB&Category=bce7fa68-373e-4afc-b00e-63fe2c75d131

It has a flash suppressor on the front though. Isn't that a problem for CA builds?

Chatterbox
11-04-2009, 2:36 PM
thanks now I can work on a 308 build.

Not with the 5.56 upper, you can't.

gun toting monkeyboy
11-04-2009, 2:39 PM
Or for $400 you can get the complete kit with the BCG. It doesnt have the front A2 sight though it looks like it has a little mini rail there instead.

http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=U15A4CB&Category=bce7fa68-373e-4afc-b00e-63fe2c75d131

It has a flash suppressor on the front though. Isn't that a problem for CA builds?

Nope. Not a problem for CA builds unless you are planning on making a featureless build. If you are going with the plain old bullet button, it is just fine.

PanchoVilla
11-04-2009, 2:51 PM
Such tough choices.
I was all set to get either a
BCM standard
BCM cold hammer forged
LMT

THis is a great price though. Now I have to decide if the 1 in 7 and the nicer barrels is worth the extra $170-270 ish dollars.

Never easy choices

campperrykid
11-04-2009, 4:11 PM
Seems like a very good deal.
Many people drank panic koolaide and paid a lot more for a lot less last winter.

Spyder
11-04-2009, 5:35 PM
Damn you...

freonr22
11-04-2009, 5:37 PM
are these hbar?

sholling
11-04-2009, 5:41 PM
I read that 10 times and nowhere did I see mid-length gas system.

freonr22
11-04-2009, 5:43 PM
I saw carbine m15a4's and just m15a4's on their site

gun toting monkeyboy
11-04-2009, 5:53 PM
I read that 10 times and nowhere did I see mid-length gas system.

I didn't see it either, but it sure looks like it has one. So how does armalite quality compare to other companies?

dieselpower
11-04-2009, 7:47 PM
These are the unmarked barrels...or is that Eagle?

vega
11-04-2009, 10:25 PM
How would you distinguish Armalite from Eagle?

SJgunguy24
11-04-2009, 10:28 PM
How would you distinguish Armalite from Eagle?

One will crap on you when flying overhead:D



Dammit Bill....Why must this be posted when i'm unemployed.:banghead::banghead::banghead:

series8217
11-04-2009, 10:28 PM
Even if they're Eagle it's still a decent deal.
I bought a 20" non-chrome lined Eagle upper last year from Armalite; it had short-stroking issues because the gas tube was leaking like mad. It took me awhile to figure out what the problem was, but a new gas tube fixed it ($15). It shoots less than 2 MOA at 100 yards with PMC Bronze. Nothing wrong with that.

echang86
11-05-2009, 1:52 AM
Wow, that's a great price. But I'm kinda suspicious...

Is it HBAR? Carbine or Mid length?

paratroop
11-05-2009, 4:49 AM
um, the website says theyre out of stock.

WhiteHot
11-05-2009, 7:26 AM
um, the website says theyre out of stock.

Where do you see that?

evidens83
11-05-2009, 7:49 AM
$300 for a middy upper??? Damn good deal if its true. How does Armalite compare though? CMMG Del-Ton quality? Or Model 1 quality?

WhiteHot
11-05-2009, 8:16 AM
Just got off the phone with Tim at Armalite. He said it IS a middy and that wasnt exactly sure what the barrel profile was but he called it "middle weight" so maybe gov't profile? I snagged one.

KevinXT
11-05-2009, 11:42 AM
no m4 feed ramps? after you buy a bcg and charging handle isnt any better of a price than a rock river and im not seeing much of a difference between the two... maybe save a few dollers...?

still going to wait and get a BCM middy!

WhiteHot
11-05-2009, 12:03 PM
All of the Armalite's these days have extended feed ramps. I also confirmed with someone else that it was a middy. 8" hand guards.

WhiteHot
11-10-2009, 5:45 PM
Anyone that ordered one get a shipping notice?

b__josh
11-10-2009, 6:28 PM
i ordered one last night, a M15-A4 CARBINE COMPLETE UPPER ASSEMBLY. all i got was an email saying "thanks for ordering."

however, today, just right now 6-ish, i checked the logon on armalite's web site and it has already assigned me a tracking number. when i checked the ups site, it says to be delivered on 11/16.

i hope that helps... also, if anyone knows, i bought the 16" carbine, do any of you know if the Magpul MOE handguards will fit? i know the MOE is for a carbine... so i'm hoping it would. its my first ar15 build.. so i dunno. thanks in advance!

Anyone that ordered one get a shipping notice?

WhiteHot
11-10-2009, 7:57 PM
thanks b_josh.

I would wait till you get the upper. I think many of the "carbines" that armalite sells are actually middys. I know that is the case with the one linked to above.

hella agg
11-10-2009, 8:40 PM
Looks like a better deal than the DS Arms upper I picked up a month ago- I think I'll stay with my decision though. This way I can choose what BCG to use...charging handle doesn't matter too much to me.

Does the Armalite have M4 feed ramps? I heard it mentioned in this thread but I don't know if its been confirmed.

b__josh
11-10-2009, 8:56 PM
thanks for the tip WhiteHot... do any of you guys know where is a good(cheap) place to buy the stock, LPK and the other stuff? i have a KD lower that i'm picking up friday, just need the other bits. any help would be great. thanks!

thanks b_josh.

I would wait till you get the upper. I think many of the "carbines" that armalite sells are actually middys. I know that is the case with the one linked to above.

hella agg
11-10-2009, 8:57 PM
Check out the sponsors at the right side of the page.

I'm usually on midwestpx.com or PK.

oaklander
11-10-2009, 9:04 PM
I ordered one! Getting it this week!

Here's my build so far:

Eotech XPS2-0 / MidwayUSA
Rock River Buttstock / Brownells
AR Upper - Armalite / Armalite
Solar Tactical Grip / Solar Tactical
Stag Lower / PRK
MI BUIS / Cow Palace
DPMS LPK / Bravo Company USA
Medieval MB Troy / Brownells
Stag BGC / Calgunner

oaklander
11-10-2009, 9:09 PM
More about the reasons for "mid-length" here:

http://www.defensereview.com/armalite-mid-length-carbine-and-arms-mid-length-sir-system/

The Armalite Mid-Length Carbine was designed specifically to overcome the long-known gas system-related problems associated with the standard M4/M4A1, problems that have been plaguing end-users for years. These include greatly accelerated gas port erosion, excess heat, higher operating gas pressures, melted and blown-out gas rings, and an open/iron sight radius thatís too short. None of these are good things on a field combat weapon.

MikeR
11-10-2009, 9:32 PM
They are mid length! and med profile barrels i believe, never did any research to find out what the differences are in the barrel types. I can post a pic if you would like. I was confused when they called it a carbine too but in fact it is mid length. I ordered mine a long time ago and received them a few months ago. I should have waited, could have saved a few hundred. Ohh well im happy!

Armalite makes good stuff, i would call it top tier. Stoner was a Chief Engineer at ArmaLite back in the day. Where do you think Colt got there patents from, they didn't design crap. Anyway they make good junk. :D

MikeR
11-10-2009, 9:50 PM
His&Hers
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq234/MRibz/Firearms/ARs2-1.jpg
MOE Carbine HG
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq234/MRibz/Firearms/ARs-1.jpg
Barrels
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq234/MRibz/Firearms/ARs1-1.jpg

b__josh
11-10-2009, 9:54 PM
thanks for teh ehads up... i would to see a pic of your rifle.. just to see it.. kinda bummed, just cause i really like how the MOE looks.. but i'm sure there are other rails i can use to replace the handguards that are relatively cheap.. i hope

They are mid length! and med profile barrels i believe, never did any research to find out what the differences are in the barrel types. I can post a pic if you would like. I was confused when they called it a carbine too but in fact it is mid length. I ordered mine a long time ago and received them a few months ago. I should have waited, could have saved a few hundred. Ohh well im happy!

Armalite makes good stuff, i would call it top tier. Stoner was a Chief Engineer at ArmaLite back in the day. Where do you think Colt got there patents from, they didn't design crap. Anyway they make good junk. :D

WhiteHot
11-10-2009, 10:10 PM
Dont be bummed. The middy is where its at for 16" barrels.

b__josh
11-10-2009, 10:14 PM
i'm sure when i pick up my lower this friday and my upper comes on monday i'll forget about it.. haha, i am pretty stocked about it. those are some looking rifles!!

Dont be bummed. The middy is where its at for 16" barrels.

MikeR
11-10-2009, 10:23 PM
BTW the pics are of the Armalite U15A4C not the Eagle. And they do have M4 ramps.

Bad pic but kills any :fud:
U15A4C
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq234/MRibz/Firearms/p1010005-1-1.jpg

gun toting monkeyboy
11-10-2009, 10:31 PM
Carbine refers to the barrel length. The barrels generally come in 16" carbine length and 20" rifle length. The gas system comes in Carbine, mid length and rifle. So you could have any gas system on your barrel, but you would still end up calling it rifle or carbine based strictly on the length of the barrel itself. That of course, doesn't include any of the other different lengths of barrel that are out there, but I was trying to keep it simple.

AfisBoy
11-10-2009, 11:26 PM
Can you take off the flash suppressor? I'd rather go featureless.

trashman
11-10-2009, 11:29 PM
Holy crap that's a nice price..I paid about $50 more for this upper a few years ago, pre-panic!

This is an excellent buy...every calgunner needs at least one...

--Neill

ETA - mine did have a BCG+CH but this is still a great deal...

MikeR
11-10-2009, 11:32 PM
Can you take off the flash suppressor? I'd rather go featureless.

The pics i posted are YHM comps, so yes you can remove the FHs. I just need to decide on MMG or Solar Tacs and i can remove the damn BBs. BTW Socks are pinned for the internet nazis.

oaklander
11-10-2009, 11:46 PM
I'm going with Solar Tactical - seems more natural. ..

The pics i posted are YHM comps, so yes you can remove the FHs. I just need to decide on MMG or Solar Tacs and i can remove the damn BBs. BTW Socks are pinned for the internet nazis.

AfisBoy
11-10-2009, 11:47 PM
The pics i posted are YHM comps, so yes you can remove the FHs. I just need to decide on MMG or Solar Tacs and i can remove the damn BBs. BTW Socks are pinned for the internet nazis.

Go with the Solar grip, the form factor is very usable. I've made a few of my own, and they work great. I also have a U15. The U15 is cool if you can get one, but the Solar grip is cheap (really cheap if you make your own :D )

Low-Pressure
11-11-2009, 2:12 AM
wow, i might just have to pass up on the stag Model 2HT im saving for. this is a good price. at $400 all i need will the the sights and magazine. now i have to decide.........
where does an armalite upper stack up on quality?

oaklander
11-11-2009, 4:20 AM
I know that Bill is somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to AR stuff. So if he was the OP, that must mean that the quality is pretty good!!!

LOL

wow, i might just have to pass up on the stag Model 2HT im saving for. this is a good price. at $400 all i need will the the sights and magazine. now i have to decide.........
where does an armalite upper stack up on quality?

AfisBoy
11-11-2009, 8:50 AM
wow, i might just have to pass up on the stag Model 2HT im saving for. this is a good price. at $400 all i need will the the sights and magazine. now i have to decide.........
where does an armalite upper stack up on quality?

Check this link for comparison to other offerings.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsEuEhjFwPrgTA&single=true&gid=5&output=html

TJCamro
11-12-2009, 9:21 AM
My upper comes in today. I will post pictures later. I just couldn't pass up this sale.

Low-Pressure
11-12-2009, 10:02 AM
My upper comes in today. I will post pictures later. I just couldn't pass up this sale.
take it to the range already and shoot it :D congrats!!
when did you order yours?
i might order mine tonight

oaklander
11-12-2009, 10:04 AM
Wow! That spreadsheet is intense!

Check this link for comparison to other offerings.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsEuEhjFwPrgTA&single=true&gid=5&output=html

oaklander
11-12-2009, 10:04 AM
Mine comes in manana - taking day off! Woot!

My upper comes in today. I will post pictures later. I just couldn't pass up this sale.

Spyder
11-12-2009, 10:46 AM
Haha, I was just looking at those uppers again this morning. I'm going to wait until after the Reno show though, just in case I come across something I've gotta have there!

Low-Pressure
11-12-2009, 12:06 PM
Haha, I was just looking at those uppers again this morning. I'm going to wait until after the Reno show though, just in case I come across something I've gotta have there!

i've never been to a gun show, i know there's one coming up in costa mesa at the end of the month. is it possible to get a better deal there with a comparable or better upper?

racer_X_123
11-12-2009, 12:13 PM
Yeah mine comes in tomorrow as well. It was ordered on Monday so it took less than a week and shipping was under 10 bucks

Spyder
11-12-2009, 1:45 PM
i've never been to a gun show, i know there's one coming up in costa mesa at the end of the month. is it possible to get a better deal there with a comparable or better upper?

In reality, probably not. But there's lots of other stuff I'd like to get besides the upper...so if I have cash in hand I can blow it on anything, then buy the upper in a few paychecks.

oaklander
11-12-2009, 2:19 PM
Update - mine just came in! I guess I had the date wrong.

Pics later! Looks niiiiice!

Woot!

oaklander
11-12-2009, 3:51 PM
Here it is the with the MB, EOtech and BUIS:

The stock FH was a pain to get off. ETA: had to wedge the FSB in one of my metal backed chairs and really work it. Don't tell AR15B, he will hate me for not using a barrel vise. But I'm used to working on Aks. . .

:o

http://i37.tinypic.com/33z4ego.jpg

wash
11-12-2009, 4:30 PM
That looks like a great deal. I would have bought one if I hadn't just bought a 5.56 CMMG upper.

Is there anything unusual about it?

I know DPMS was selling some cheap uppers that didn't have dust covers and the rail height was funky too.

oaklander
11-12-2009, 6:28 PM
Everything looks GTG. Only thing I noticed is that the FSB is not F-marked. I believe that means that it is a tiny fraction of an inch shorter than an F-marked one.

That looks like a great deal. I would have bought one if I hadn't just bought a 5.56 CMMG upper.

Is there anything unusual about it?

I know DPMS was selling some cheap uppers that didn't have dust covers and the rail height was funky too.

dieselpower
11-12-2009, 6:40 PM
Can someone please post the exact markings on these barrels and I see 1 person didnt get an F FSB... Has any one gotten an F marked FSB?

Fot
11-12-2009, 7:52 PM
newbie question. Whats F on fsb mean?

wash
11-12-2009, 8:02 PM
F marked is the ~standard height for the front sight. It should work with all iron sights made for an A3 style railed upper. It it's not F marked it will be off a little, probably within the adjustment range of the front sight post.

jester
11-12-2009, 8:35 PM
I just ordered mine!

Lurch762
11-12-2009, 8:45 PM
If I remember right, back in the late 90's, Armalite was the only company selling a mid length gas system. All other 16" carbines had the carbine length gas system. For some stupid reason, I was hesitant on getting the Armalite middy back then, thinking there would be no accessories for the forend since it was the only one on the market. Got a post-ban 20" A2 with a loud *** muzzle brake on it instead. The middy just looks more "balanced" than a standard carbine. Just the right amount of barrel sticking out.

oaklander
11-12-2009, 10:15 PM
Here's the view through the EOTech:

http://i38.tinypic.com/29qk4z7.jpg

oaklander
11-13-2009, 6:25 PM
Mine is built!

wOOT!

Pics coming as soon as I wipe all the CLP off it it (I like to coat my ARs in CLP when I first finish them to "season" the anodizing and parkerizing).

trashman
11-13-2009, 6:39 PM
Mine is built!

wOOT!

You will be pleased with it -- I have a 16" Armalite carbine upper I bought during their Christmas sale in 2007. Nice little tack driver!

--Neill

oaklander
11-13-2009, 6:42 PM
Cool!

Yes - probably going to Chabot nice and early to sight in!!!

You will be pleased with it -- I have a 16" Armalite carbine upper I bought during their Christmas sale in 2007. Nice little tack driver!

--Neill

Low-Pressure
11-14-2009, 3:21 PM
Just finished ordering mine. hopefully it'll be here soon. i ordered the http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=U15A4CB&Category=bce7fa68-373e-4afc-b00e-63fe2c75d131. $400 + $10 shipping. now time to save some money for the front and rear irons.

oaklander
11-14-2009, 6:22 PM
Range Report

Took it to Chabot today and fired 120 rounds.

First round was in the black at 25 yards!

At 50 yards, after adjusting the sights, I was able to hit a 1 inch dot consistently with M193 ammo.

Absolutely no malfunctions of any kind.

:D

trashman
11-14-2009, 7:27 PM
Glad to hear it. BTW - meant to mention that if you're ever going to put a riflescope on it, the Armalite one-piece scope ring/mount (http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=EX0027&ReturnUrl=Categories.aspx?Category=a14c8168-f1cf-4f11-8859-bafe17a66e1e) is pretty darn nice. I've got one on my 16" Armalite carbine and it does a nice job with my Leupold VX-I 3-9x30. I get nice bench groups even with a wobbly 6-position collapsible stock.

(Although Bill pointed at it at the last ShootNQ and said "hey that scope is bigger than the rifle!")

--Neill

Range Report

Took it to Chabot today and fired 120 rounds.

First round was in the black at 25 yards!

At 50 yards, after adjusting the sights, I was able to hit a 1 inch dot consistently with M193 ammo.

Absolutely no malfunctions of any kind.

:D

oaklander
11-14-2009, 8:59 PM
It's not F-height, but the difference is so small (.04) that it didn't matter in my case.

I achieved absolute co-witness with an MI SPLP BUIS and an EOTech - I actually had to LOWER the front sight pin. . .

:D

I didn't read all the thread, but I'll gamble that is not an F-height FSB.

Bad news. No big deal if you use a Aimpoint and skip a rear folding sight. Zero the Aimpoint for the 200m BSZ and you're good from 25-250 yds anyways.

If you use irons, use the Revised Improved Battlesight Zero, it's on ar15.com.

KevinXT
11-14-2009, 9:08 PM
the upper reciever appears to be a flat (non gloss) finish.. can someone comfirm this? my lower is also a flat finish and this appears it would be a good match with my Smith and wesson M&P lower...

oaklander
11-14-2009, 9:10 PM
Correct - it also has the letters "AR" on it (for Armalite) and a cross in a circle forge mark.

the upper reciever appears to be a flat (non gloss) finish.. can someone comfirm this? my lower is also a flat finish and this appears it would be a good match with my Smith and wesson M&P lower...

Lurch762
11-14-2009, 9:45 PM
I always wondered about the F marked front sight bases. I'm pretty sure my flattop Bushmaster doesn't have an F marked front sight base but if the difference is only 0.040", based on an 8-36 front sight screw pitch, I can compensate for that by raising the sight by 1.25 or 1.5 turns. After all, the rifles are designed to hit a torso, not a 10 ring.

dieselpower
11-15-2009, 9:38 AM
Can someone remove the handguards and post the barrel markings please.

vega
11-15-2009, 10:02 AM
I have a M15A4 LEC:
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=EK0446B&Category=bce7fa68-373e-4afc-b00e-63fe2c75d131

No marking on the barrel.

Ravenslair
11-15-2009, 10:38 AM
Not everyone marks their sights with an 'F', even if they are the proper 'F' height. I would check the height to see. My LMT is not marked 'F', but is the proper 'F' height.

Standard front sight is 1.94"
'F' marked front sight is 1.98"

These measurements are from the top of the barrel to the top of the sight (between the ears where the sight actually screws in)

Ravenslair
11-15-2009, 10:39 AM
If you do not have the correct height, Bushmaster makes a taller front sight post.

bwiese
11-15-2009, 10:46 AM
Can someone remove the handguards and post the barrel markings please.

Armalite ships what it advertises.
It's a 16" mid-gas 1/9" twist chrome-lined barrel.

WhiteHot
11-15-2009, 11:24 AM
Not everyone marks their sights with an 'F', even if they are the proper 'F' height. I would check the height to see. My LMT is not marked 'F', but is the proper 'F' height.

Standard front sight is 1.94"
'F' marked front sight is 1.98"

These measurements are from the top of the barrel to the top of the sight (between the ears where the sight actually screws in)

The one that I just received measures at 1.953". (and no 'F' mark)

Fot
11-15-2009, 7:44 PM
Well come x-mas morning I'm unwrapping one of these barrels.. Gonna be part of my first AR build.

vega
11-15-2009, 8:53 PM
My Armalite measures 1.95 no F mark.
Stag FSB mounted on Bushmaster barrel measures 1.985" with F mark.
TacSol measures 1.985" no F mark.

b__josh
11-16-2009, 9:16 PM
just got my upper in. i went with the U15A4CB - M15-A4 CARBINE COMPLETE UPPER ASSEMBLY.

it has no front sight, has a gas block. do you know if it would be ok to attach the magul composite sights on the gas block as a front sight? i read somewhere on some website saying that these sights arent recomended on gas blocks... any one know anything about this?

its my first rifle. its just for plinking, so i'm not looking to go balls out. something to just get me going. thank guys

vega
11-16-2009, 9:20 PM
Chris of Addax Tactical did mention on this thread that Magpul does not recommend it.
http://68forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5617

freonr22
11-16-2009, 9:24 PM
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll205/ron169/ban.jpg


Sorry it was on the link you listed I thought was funny

MikeR
11-16-2009, 9:26 PM
I hear its not a good idea, they tend to melt. I went with the MI gas block sight on my wife's KISS rifle. You can see pics in post #36.

Can you take off the flash suppressor? I'd rather go featureless.

just got my upper in. i went with the U15A4CB - M15-A4 CARBINE COMPLETE UPPER ASSEMBLY.

it has no front sight, has a gas block. do you know if it would be ok to attach the magul composite sights on the gas block as a front sight? i read somewhere on some website saying that these sights arent recomended on gas blocks... any one know anything about this?

its my first rifle. its just for plinking, so i'm not looking to go balls out. something to just get me going. thank guys

oaklander
11-16-2009, 9:30 PM
Yes - using a 3/4 open ended wrench - fairly easy.

Can you take off the flash suppressor? I'd rather go featureless.

dieselpower
11-17-2009, 5:13 PM
Armalite ships what it advertises.
It's a 16" mid-gas 1/9" twist chrome-lined barrel.

I was asking to see if these are marked. My question had nothing to do with advertising bait-n-switch nor was I questioning Armalite's integrity.

So I take it these are Armalite unmarked barrels. That's all I was asking. I was told Armalite marks now and I wanted to know what those marks were.

vega
11-17-2009, 6:39 PM
So I take it these are Armalite unmarked barrels. That's all I was asking. I was told Armalite marks now and I wanted to know what those marks were.
Armalite answers fast when you ask them a question, based on my experience. But like I said, my barrel is not marked.