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408teach
11-02-2009, 9:10 PM
Hey, Was wondering what you use to prepare your AR for semi longterm storage? I've just been using KG4. Is that good enough? thanks

Stockton
11-02-2009, 9:14 PM
Rigs on all moving parts and a very thin coat on the outside.

CHS
11-02-2009, 9:27 PM
Hey, Was wondering what you use to prepare your AR for semi longterm storage? I've just been using KG4. Is that good enough? thanks

What do you define as "long term".

To me, "long term" typically means more than a year or two.

If you're really talking about actual long term storage then you'll want this, coupled with some VCI bags.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26344/Product/RUST_VETO

Double-bag it and heat-seal if possible. Also, if you can use a vacuum sealer that will help a lot too.

408teach
11-02-2009, 9:40 PM
Rigs on all moving parts and a very thin coat on the outside.

Rigs?...sorry

What do you define as "long term".

To me, "long term" typically means more than a year or two.

If you're really talking about actual long term storage then you'll want this, coupled with some VCI bags.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26344/Product/RUST_VETO

Double-bag it and heat-seal if possible. Also, if you can use a vacuum sealer that will help a lot too.

6 months to a year I guess. I do have a Zcorr bag inside a closed cell case.

CHS
11-02-2009, 10:01 PM
6 months to a year I guess. I do have a Zcorr bag inside a closed cell case.

For anything less than a year, storing a rifle in a VCI bag (looks like Zcorr is using VCI bags) inside another locked/sealed case should be just fine.

VCI bags will work a LOOOONG time in a sealed environment. If you're constantly opening and closing that case, then they won't work as long. But you did say STORAGE, so that's probably not what you're going to do :)

supermario
11-02-2009, 10:09 PM
For anything less than a year, storing a rifle in a VCI bag (looks like Zcorr is using VCI bags) inside another locked/sealed case should be just fine.

VCI bags will work a LOOOONG time in a sealed environment. If you're constantly opening and closing that case, then they won't work as long. But you did say STORAGE, so that's probably not what you're going to do :)


Where can one buy these?

CHS
11-02-2009, 10:36 PM
Where can one buy these?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vci+bags

supermario
11-02-2009, 10:38 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vci+bags

:rofl::rofl: I was lazy:D Thanks.

chomme
11-03-2009, 10:39 AM
If the items are stored in a safe with a dehumdifying rod (golden rod) or something of the sort, you may not need much. I have a dehumidifier and store everything inside Bore Stores bags and it works really well just lubing with clp/slip 2000.

5hundo
11-03-2009, 11:36 AM
I don't know if any of you have tried this but I'll throw this out there again, since it's getting close to X-mas:

When people are opening presents this year, you'll notice that those silica packages are placed in nearly every box with any type of electronic hardware or items that are suceptible to rust/corrode. Save those!!!

I have maybe a dozen in my safe and I have yet to see any of my weapons, magazines or accessories corrode.

You can put them in gun cases too...

Stockton
11-03-2009, 7:42 PM
If you are really serious about storing in the ground or outside in the elements then just get some cosmoline and cake it on then seal it in a VCI bag.

Seriously though... Rig (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=567717&t=11082005) grease it and put it away in your safe or airtight case. If you put it in a case then throw some desiccate pouches in with it.

CHS
11-03-2009, 7:45 PM
If you are really serious about storing in the ground or outside in the elements then just get some cosmoline and cake it on then seal it in a VCI bag.


Hey, that's what I said :)

FYI, Cosmoline doesn't exist anymore, so Brownells now carries this stuff:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26344/Product/RUST_VETO

CHS
11-03-2009, 7:46 PM
Seriously though... Rig (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=567717&t=11082005) grease it and put it away in your safe or airtight case. If you put it in a case then throw some desiccate pouches in with it.

I would totally buy some of that.

Oh wait, it's discontinued by the manufacturer.

Stockton
11-04-2009, 7:24 AM
I would totally buy some of that.

Oh wait, it's discontinued by the manufacturer.

Don't fret....just because Midway is behind the curve...you can get ahead of the curve..... Back by Popular Demand (http://www.shotgunsportsmagazine.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=660)

Stockton
11-04-2009, 7:27 AM
Hey, that's what I said :)

FYI, Cosmoline doesn't exist anymore, so Brownells now carries this stuff:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26344/Product/RUST_VETO


LOL..yes but I say it louder!


Cosmoline-Rust Veto....anything that takes several hours to remove....BUT seals that metal.:D