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7.62x54R
10-31-2009, 12:16 AM
If i were to build a Retro AR would it be bad (illegal) if i had it engraved with Colt logos. using a Nodak Spud in white AR receiver.

http://98.196.65.94/retroblackrifle/sitebuilder/images/XM16E1-Marks-sm2-229x193.jpg

http://98.196.65.94/retroblackrifle/sitebuilder/images/603-Marks-2-600x333.jpg

Frijolito1988
10-31-2009, 12:47 AM
I think you'd have bigger problems with colt and copywrite issues. Just dont write M16 on it.

tenbrook
10-31-2009, 6:43 AM
If you do post some pics. You can do mine next! Just dont tell Colt.

B Strong
10-31-2009, 6:47 AM
If i were to build a Retro AR would it be bad (illegal) if i had it engraved with Colt logos. using a Nodak Spud in white AR receiver.

http://98.196.65.94/retroblackrifle/sitebuilder/images/XM16E1-Marks-sm2-229x193.jpg

http://98.196.65.94/retroblackrifle/sitebuilder/images/603-Marks-2-600x333.jpg


Copyright issues yes, criminal law issues no.

Engraving "M16" on a receiver wouldn't violate criminal law, but could certainly bring unwanted/uninformed LE attention.

pacrimguru
10-31-2009, 6:48 AM
it's fine if its for personal use and not for resale. go for it man!

glockwise2000
10-31-2009, 6:53 AM
Copyright issues. Oh well, just go for it.

bombadillo
10-31-2009, 6:55 AM
Build a retro but don't do the engravings. Its more hassle than its worth.

Josh3239
10-31-2009, 10:37 AM
There is a "Fair Use" clause inside the Copyright laws. The Colt logo alone is not a complete copy of any of Colt's markings, to be extra safe don't ever make a business of the Colt logo (ie profiting from it as a business). For personal use you should be fine. I would stay away from any banned makes or model names, so you probably shouldn't actually write "Colt" or "AR15" or "M16".

A couple guys from ARF actually did this, to be extra safe they made some slightly changes to the Colt logo. And underneath it, engraved "Property of US Government".

someR1
10-31-2009, 10:53 AM
Build a retro but don't do the engravings. Its more hassle than its worth.

Agreed.

xm177
10-31-2009, 11:12 AM
Shouldn't be a problem. Doubt you would ever show up on Colt's radar.

CHS
10-31-2009, 12:57 PM
There are no copyright issues. Engraving a logo on the lower for yourself is covered under fair use.

You cannot engage in the business of engraving that logo for other people though, THAT would be copyright infringement

wilit
10-31-2009, 12:58 PM
If i were to build a Retro AR would it be bad (illegal) if i had it engraved with Colt logos. using a Nodak Spud in white AR receiver.

http://98.196.65.94/retroblackrifle/sitebuilder/images/XM16E1-Marks-sm2-229x193.jpg


Not sure I'd go with this marking as a Colt AR-15 is a named AW. Remember the Harrott ruling allows OLL because a named AW is only so if what is engraved on the receiver is what is on the list.

CHS
10-31-2009, 1:14 PM
Not sure I'd go with this marking as a Colt AR-15 is a named AW. Remember the Harrott ruling allows OLL because a named AW is only so if what is engraved on the receiver is what is on the list.

Well, it would be a secondary marking that has no bearing on the actual manufacturer of the receiver.

HOWEVER, it could cause the user some headaches. So I agree. Though I disagree that it would actually make the gun an assault weapon.

It would be best to stick to the markings in the second photo for less headaches. Except "M16A1" might still cause them :) hehe.

bohoki
10-31-2009, 3:27 PM
how about a DOLT N-16

do it like a hongkong knockoff

put this in a circle
http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/pets/2008/10/30/donkey-elephant-1.jpg