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Desert_Rat
10-30-2009, 2:57 PM
For what it's worth here is a 5 shot group through my .308 rem 700 SPS varmint 26"bbl Millet trs-1 scope.Shooting Hornaday 150gr BTSP #3033 48gr BL-C(2) winchester brass and cci #200 primers.Not sure the of the MOA wich seems to be a popular expression these days.If I could figure it out I'd say.Rifle is how they come out of the box. Fired at 100 yards

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t112/jcmorris10/094.jpg

professionalcoyotehunter
10-30-2009, 2:58 PM
Very nice grouping. Was this 50 or 100 yards?

Desert_Rat
10-30-2009, 2:59 PM
thx 100 yards.

jmf_tracy
10-30-2009, 3:01 PM
looks to be about 1 MOA. nice. good enough.

CHS
10-30-2009, 3:13 PM
1 MOA = 1 inch at 100yards (actually, it's SLIGHTLY more, but not enough to make a difference, so we call it 1")

That looks to be about 1-1.5", so you're managing 1-1.5 MOA

The SPS Tactical is supposed to shoot about .75 MOA out of the box, so you're doing pretty good!

Desert_Rat
10-30-2009, 3:16 PM
A guy at work is really good with bolt guns,We're going to float the barrel and glass bed it soon,we'll see if this helps the group tighten up.

professionalcoyotehunter
10-30-2009, 3:18 PM
Shouldn't it already be floated?

Desert_Rat
10-30-2009, 3:24 PM
Not this one there is a little plastic tab on the end of the fore end of the stock.there is one on each side touching the barrel.I can't slide a dollar bill down the seam between the barrel and forend

CHS
10-30-2009, 3:36 PM
A guy at work is really good with bolt guns,We're going to float the barrel and glass bed it soon,we'll see if this helps the group tighten up.

Seeing as how they shoot sub-MOA out of the box, it's probably you ;)

But yeah, floating and bedding that sucker is a good idea anyways.


EDIT: OOPS!! I'm sorry, for some reason I read "SPS Tactical". That gun is sub-MOA capable out of the box. I don't know what the Varmint is capable of.

Desert_Rat
10-30-2009, 3:54 PM
No doubt it's me,I'm thinking this is something to build off of.

REH
10-30-2009, 3:57 PM
Have you worked on the load and bullet length yet?

Desert_Rat
10-30-2009, 4:06 PM
Just the load,recipie,the length was set to what ever Lymans 49th stated.Should I measure the chamber and set to that for increased accuracy?

bcrich
10-30-2009, 4:21 PM
You are off to a good start bro! Now you are going to have to try some Amax's 155 & 168g, matchkings168 & 175g, and other powders as well (varget,imr 4895 & 4064) the list could go on & on...Im sure you could get tighter groups, load development is going to keep you busy for a while.

hnoppenberger
10-30-2009, 5:57 PM
long thin barrel and light ammo. im sure the gun is capable of better though.

my stock sps tactical in .223 posted a .28" group once with 75gn match king.

swerv512
10-30-2009, 8:14 PM
nice start. definitely gives you an indication of future performance. i've shot a few 700s and they all are sub-MOA out the box. my advice is to work on the basics for now. find the load that gives you the best performance and load as many as you can and just practice the basics (breathing, trigger control, cheekweld) with that one load to limit any variables. you'll see those groups shrink before your eyes. then get back to hand loading. consistent shooting techniques will in my experience outweigh most gains made through load development in early times...

REH
10-30-2009, 8:21 PM
Just the load,recipie,the length was set to what ever Lymans 49th stated.Should I measure the chamber and set to that for increased accuracy?

That is what reloading is all about.........you tailer the loads to your gun. OAL of the round will change the accuraty. Changing the powder weight by 1/2 grain up or down, primers. You are real close here. I would tweak that load. You might be pleased with the results.:) Have fun.............

trob
10-30-2009, 8:45 PM
i guess im picky

Desert_Rat
10-30-2009, 8:57 PM
i guess im picky

I'll bite,Whattcha picky about?

Gnzrme
10-30-2009, 9:41 PM
take this out further than 100 yards...I have a rifle that shoots MOA at 100 and 1/2 MOA beyond that...Rifles have a sweet spot that they like to be shot at...The other day I put 3 shots into the same hole at 400 yards....thats my sweet spot...Anyway, keep working on this load and shoot out to 600 or beyond and post results....

a1fabweld
10-31-2009, 7:43 AM
Here's my best 10 shot group the first time out with my 700 Tactical 308. I know I suck, but I'm getting better.

Nessal
10-31-2009, 8:34 AM
I thought .308 only came in 24" barrel besides the 700p.

redcliff
10-31-2009, 8:57 AM
take this out further than 100 yards...I have a rifle that shoots MOA at 100 and 1/2 MOA beyond that...Rifles have a sweet spot that they like to be shot at...The other day I put 3 shots into the same hole at 400 yards....thats my sweet spot...Anyway, keep working on this load and shoot out to 600 or beyond and post results....

So the bullets curve back to your point of aim once they get past 100 yards instead of continuing their dispersion? FYI Angelina Jolie may be looking for you for Wanted 2 :)

CHS
10-31-2009, 9:56 AM
I thought .308 only came in 24" barrel besides the 700p.

The SPS Tactical comes with a 20" barrel.

coop44
10-31-2009, 10:20 AM
Seeing as how they shoot sub-MOA out of the box, it's probably you ;)

But yeah, floating and bedding that sucker is a good idea anyways.


EDIT: OOPS!! I'm sorry, for some reason I read "SPS Tactical". That gun is sub-MOA capable out of the box. I don't know what the Varmint is capable of.

screw bedding it, buy an h+s stock,

probably is you, buy some good factory ammo and establish a baseline! Otherwise you don't know what to blame.

Jonathan Doe
10-31-2009, 10:27 AM
Glass bedding and a little touch up on the trigger will give you a better group.;)

slappomatt
10-31-2009, 12:34 PM
So the bullets curve back to your point of aim once they get past 100 yards instead of continuing their dispersion? FYI Angelina Jolie may be looking for you for Wanted 2 :)

it is actually true. The bullets take a while to stabilize. for example my 6mm BR is a very accurate round for 300-600 yard work. but at 100 yards the slightly smaller 6mmPPC is a hair more accurate.

Desert_Rat
10-31-2009, 6:35 PM
it is actually true. The bullets take a while to stabilize. for example my 6mm BR is a very accurate round for 300-600 yard work. but at 100 yards the slightly smaller 6mmPPC is a hair more accurate.

And the bullets will travel in an arc,so yeah they really do come back down