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JeffW
10-28-2009, 7:50 PM
I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share thier LUCC containers.

In particular, I was wondering if anyone had modified the wilderness safepacker to lock, as I think that package would be ideal.

I've been using this one inside a backpack/briefcase:

http://www.fist-inc.com/holsters/LADY%20CC.htm

with this lock:

http://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-1547DCM-Backpack-Padlock/dp/B00004SQLR

Works, and doesn't print, holds G27 or P2000SK sized pistol no problem.

QuarterBoreGunner
10-28-2009, 9:15 PM
Nope, nothing to do with 2A Law or Politics here...

Moving.

CHS
10-28-2009, 9:52 PM
My Maxpedition Fatboy versipack
-------------------------------

From the outside you can't really tell anything:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092136.jpg

But some simple 550 cord abusing the pen holder gives you a "shackle":
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092136a.jpg

Will hold one full-size 1911 and 2 8rd CMC mags:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092137.jpg


I apologize for the crappy pics. I left the DSLR at work tonight :(

rabagley
10-28-2009, 11:05 PM
I like that. I've been eyeballing the maxpedition versipacks for a while. I'm only a little worried about having a murse, but I figure I'll be able to get over it since I know exactly why I'll have a murse...

CHS
10-28-2009, 11:35 PM
I like that. I've been eyeballing the maxpedition versipacks for a while. I'm only a little worried about having a murse, but I figure I'll be able to get over it since I know exactly why I'll have a murse...

Punch anyone who calls it a "murse" right in the junk.

It's a tactical man-satchel.

And it's one of the most convenient and discrete ways I have of toting my .45 to work and back and to destinations in-between.

locosway
10-29-2009, 12:27 AM
I'm cheap, so I just take the safety cable that came with my Glock and wrap it around the handle of the Glock case twice so it can't be opened.

Of course I don't walk down the street like this, but it's useful when driving around.

Untamed1972
10-29-2009, 10:27 AM
Punch anyone who calls it a "murse" right in the junk.

It's a tactical man-satchel.


:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

MudCamper
10-29-2009, 10:53 AM
I don't know. Tsnachel sounds even more effeminating than murse!

Untamed1972
10-29-2009, 11:17 AM
I don't know. Tsnachel sounds even more effeminating than murse!


Not to mention anyone who knows what a Maxpedition tactical man sachel is is gonna know what a guy has in one when he's carrying it....cuz honestly.....what guy would carry one if he wasn't packin' heat in it. Will quickly become the new "fanny pack". You can camo it up and cover it in molle straps and buckles all you want......it's still a man-purse.

sfwdiy
10-29-2009, 1:11 PM
I posted a couple youtube videos in this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=169348&highlight=LUCC

A few other people had some good ideas as well. Worth a read.

--B

Decoligny
10-29-2009, 1:31 PM
How about this?

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/50272159/Briefcase.jpg

grammaton76
10-29-2009, 2:41 PM
Blackhawk concealment holster. Locks on the zipper.
http://www.blackhawk.com//CatalogImages/18-781-IMG1.jpeg

Uncle Mike's Federal-size Gunpak is the exact same unit; Blackhawk makes them for UM.

There are also some neat LUCC-dedicated solutions coming out in the future from this company that Nathan and I have been hassling. Better access and more secure locking, than messing with a padlock through a zipper.

Never been questioned on it.

Afterburnt
10-30-2009, 8:25 PM
I guess "*** bag" is no longer acceptable?

The Sauce
11-21-2009, 11:36 PM
Sorry to bring back an old thread, but would something like this (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/CASE050-1.html) work for LUCC? I'm not looking to carry around town all the time just something small to carry, perhaps inside a bag, once in awhile (when needed).

locosway
11-21-2009, 11:47 PM
It's hard to beat this price!

http://www.topglock.com/item/173596___SECURE_IT_SECURITY_BOX_CO.aspx

grammaton76
11-23-2009, 12:28 PM
Sorry to bring back an old thread, but would something like this (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/CASE050-1.html) work for LUCC? I'm not looking to carry around town all the time just something small to carry, perhaps inside a bag, once in awhile (when needed).

Sure, as long as you can securely lock it.

Personally though I use this, for $33.95: http://www.uncle-mikes.com/products/gun_pak_pouch.html

Mounts to the belt, slip a TSA padlock through the CLOSER zipper holes (so there's no gap), and life is good.

That hard case is a better option though if you have a backpack. There's NO security argument that could be made against the mini-safe as a LUCC container, and I readily admit it's one step safer than the LUCC container I wear almost every day.

If you were to twist really hard, you might be able to make an argument against the zipper on the Gun Pak (i.e. if you were able to twist the padlock hard enough to tear the zipper ears off).

Lone_Gunman
11-23-2009, 7:29 PM
My Maxpedition Fatboy versipack
-------------------------------

From the outside you can't really tell anything:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092136.jpg

But some simple 550 cord abusing the pen holder gives you a "shackle":
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092136a.jpg

Will hold one full-size 1911 and 2 8rd CMC mags:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092137.jpg


I apologize for the crappy pics. I left the DSLR at work tonight :(



This looks like a great solution. I'm a little wary of the 550 cord shackle although I guess I shouldn't be, it's just as secure as locking the zipper to a cloth loop on a case. The thing that worries me is the argument that the knot on the 550 cord could be untied or the cord could easily be cut. The first thing I thought when I sat it was "cool, for super quick access just cut the cord with my knife."

CHS
11-23-2009, 7:41 PM
This looks like a great solution. I'm a little wary of the 550 cord shackle although I guess I shouldn't be, it's just as secure as locking the zipper to a cloth loop on a case. The thing that worries me is the argument that the knot on the 550 cord could be untied or the cord could easily be cut. The first thing I thought when I sat it was "cool, for super quick access just cut the cord with my knife."

If that's the case, then NO soft case would be considered legal for locked carry since you could just slice open the case itself.

Dr Rockso
11-23-2009, 7:58 PM
This looks like a great solution. I'm a little wary of the 550 cord shackle although I guess I shouldn't be, it's just as secure as locking the zipper to a cloth loop on a case. The thing that worries me is the argument that the knot on the 550 cord could be untied or the cord could easily be cut. The first thing I thought when I sat it was "cool, for super quick access just cut the cord with my knife."
Yeah...the fact that there's just a knot in between the lock and the zipper would give me some pause. I seem to recall Librarian suggesting a "10-year-old test" for locked containers. If a clever 10-year-old without any tools can get into it, it's sort of iffy as a locked container.

N6ATF
11-23-2009, 8:03 PM
This looks like a great solution. I'm a little wary of the 550 cord shackle although I guess I shouldn't be, it's just as secure as locking the zipper to a cloth loop on a case. The thing that worries me is the argument that the knot on the 550 cord could be untied or the cord could easily be cut. The first thing I thought when I sat it was "cool, for super quick access just cut the cord with my knife."

Yeah, you could melt the 550 cord ends together, but you wouldn't technically be locking metal shut with metal (forcing them to bolt cut or pry like a mother), you'd be closing it with an unbroken loop. Still would need a tool, but practically no effort past that.

But hell, if you didn't have to worry about unlawful searches and seizures, I'd go with a fixed blade knife to quick-cut the cord and get to the handgun along the lines of using a handgun to fight to your rifle.

esskay
11-23-2009, 11:39 PM
I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share thier LUCC containers.

In particular, I was wondering if anyone had modified the wilderness safepacker to lock, as I think that package would be ideal.


The safepacker is pretty cool, however it closes up with a plastic buckle, plus it has "breakaway" velcro on the side to help with a quick draw ... so kinda hard to figure out how to properly secure it.

SevenFifty
12-21-2009, 2:00 PM
Dillon Plan B (http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/content/p/9/catid/14/pid/23863/?viewImg=1)

Purple K
12-23-2009, 11:31 AM
ordering my murse......lol

paul0660
12-23-2009, 12:05 PM
I think this offer is still on. http://www.tommysgunpack.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TGP%2D001%2DFREE

I got one, and ordered a second. They are well made, lockable through the zipper tabs, and the quick opening concept does work.

The best solution to the "screams gun" problem is to sew a big red cross on the bag, makes you an undercover EMT.

CHS
12-23-2009, 12:50 PM
My way:

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092136a.jpg

Cokebottle
12-23-2009, 1:04 PM
I assume the knot pulls and pushes easily through the pen-pocket?
Seems that would be a PITA to set up for hitting the road... I assume you carry in the shop (I didn't notice if you were carrying open last week).

CHS
12-23-2009, 3:22 PM
I assume the knot pulls and pushes easily through the pen-pocket?
Seems that would be a PITA to set up for hitting the road... I assume you carry in the shop (I didn't notice if you were carrying open last week).

You can't see it in the photo, but there are long tails after the knot, and they go through the pen holder enough to the point where I can pull it all the way through. It's pretty easy. Not a PITA.

I carry most days.

Cokebottle
12-23-2009, 3:30 PM
Okay... I see one of the tails now.
So they're long enough to keep the "string" captured in the pen holder but allow the zipper to fully open.
That's an awesome idea.

Cokebottle
12-23-2009, 3:42 PM
I think this offer is still on. http://www.tommysgunpack.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TGP%2D001%2DFREE

I got one, and ordered a second. They are well made, lockable through the zipper tabs, and the quick opening concept does work.
I'm surprised he has any left. Only thing left in large is digital camo, but he's still got a pretty good selection of small and a few medium.

I actually like the Sidekick better... since the gun rests muzzle-down, you aren't muzzling your johnson or your thigh when sitting down, and it's a little more compact since the large (vertcial) dimension is only the OAL, rather than the muzzle-butt diagonal.

Apparently the original TG pack has been replaced with one with a slightly different front pocket arrangement and maybe a little better padding for the gun.

A couple of weeks ago, he was running a 1-day special for the belly band (same as the TG pack, $15 for shipping, "free" product).
I ordered it on Wednesday at around noon and it was at my door Thursday by 10... he must have had a stack of them already in the USPS packs and ready to slap a shipping label on... guess I caught his afternoon run to the post office!

pullnshoot25
12-23-2009, 4:41 PM
Since my 5.11 Select carry pack failed to sell twice, I now use it as my LUCC bag. The chest pocket holds anything from the Makarov to the BHP and it locks nicely. The key is paracorded to the strap and tucked away to remain handy.

I also can tuck a voice recorder in there to be nice and sneaky :)

Plinkin
12-23-2009, 6:33 PM
The best solution to the "screams gun" problem is to sew a big red cross on the bag, makes you an undercover EMT.

thats the best idea yet lol i like that

Vinz
12-23-2009, 7:02 PM
ordering my murse......lol

hey hey hey, its a Tote....ok fine, we'll just call it a Jack Bauer.

http://www.dillonprecision.com/uimages/missing_images/18193_concealed_carry_tote.jpg


thats the best idea yet lol i like that

Ha, till someone starts choking next to you in public. :D




vinz

psycho_klown66
12-23-2009, 9:03 PM
If you are worried about the cord, you could always used a zip-tie... you can't untie it, PIA to cut. ;)

grammaton76
12-26-2009, 12:40 PM
The best solution to the "screams gun" problem is to sew a big red cross on the bag, makes you an undercover EMT.

Blackhawk has a better suggestion on their website: Take a camera company's logo (Sony, Canon, etc) and stitch it onto the Gun Pak (or whatever else you use). You won't get into weird situations where people assume you have painkillers in the bag and want them, either.

For our purposes, a camera logo is even better, as a locked camera bag is firmly in First Amendment territory. Of course, it may get a little more notice in movie theaters.

CHS
12-26-2009, 5:55 PM
For our purposes, a camera logo is even better, as a locked camera bag is firmly in First Amendment territory. Of course, it may get a little more notice in movie theaters.

Camera bags are also ripe for criminal focus. Lenses hardly devalue, and can always be sold for a pretty good price. Cameras and camera gear gets stolen all the time.

grammaton76
12-26-2009, 6:00 PM
Camera bags are also ripe for criminal focus. Lenses hardly devalue, and can always be sold for a pretty good price. Cameras and camera gear gets stolen all the time.

DSLR lenses, sure. But the LUCC bags I would recommend are small enough that they'd hold a medium-size point+shoot at best.

Cokebottle
12-26-2009, 6:03 PM
Camera bags are also ripe for criminal focus. Lenses hardly devalue, and can always be sold for a pretty good price. Cameras and camera gear gets stolen all the time.
Ya, but when you're in a store and a gunman is holding the place up, you start fishing through a camera bag and he's just going to make sure his mask is covering his face and his fly is up ;)

Oshiat
12-27-2009, 12:42 PM
I have a Maxpedition Jumbo Versipack and it's great. Originally bought it for haulin crap to work on my streetbike. It has since become the carry case for my full size DSLR and lenses. I have used it at many school band events and no one has raised an eyebrow. I have no doubt that I could slip my Kimber in along with my camera and no one would know the diff.
On a side note - does any one know if Life Jacket gun locks are Cali legal? Their site says that they pass the drop test, but I think PC states the gun must be fully enclosed?

pullnshoot25
12-27-2009, 1:54 PM
I have a Maxpedition Jumbo Versipack and it's great. Originally bought it for haulin crap to work on my streetbike. It has since become the carry case for my full size DSLR and lenses. I have used it at many school band events and no one has raised an eyebrow. I have no doubt that I could slip my Kimber in along with my camera and no one would know the diff.
On a side note - does any one know if Life Jacket gun locks are Cali legal? Their site says that they pass the drop test, but I think PC states the gun must be fully enclosed?

I am just gonna say "No" on that 'cuz it ain't fully enclosed there... or something.

esskay
12-27-2009, 4:14 PM
Camera bags are also ripe for criminal focus. Lenses hardly devalue, and can always be sold for a pretty good price. Cameras and camera gear gets stolen all the time.

Even better, put a "Pampers" logo on the bag and always carry around one smelly dirty used diaper. No one will want to get close to your bag! LOL

NSR500
12-27-2009, 6:04 PM
I just want to clarify that it is okay for the LUCC to be hidden. For example, it is Winter right now. So if I wear a jacket and the LUCC is on my belt, but covered it is still okay, right?

Quiet
12-27-2009, 8:29 PM
I just want to clarify that it is okay for the LUCC to be hidden. For example, it is Winter right now. So if I wear a jacket and the LUCC is on my belt, but covered it is still okay, right?

yes

NSR500
12-27-2009, 8:51 PM
Great, Thanks!

Between freedoms of Texas and restrictions of California it is hard to keep things straight.

dark_ninja
12-28-2009, 10:14 PM
My Maxpedition Fatboy versipack
-------------------------------

From the outside you can't really tell anything:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092136.jpg

But some simple 550 cord abusing the pen holder gives you a "shackle":
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092136a.jpg

Will hold one full-size 1911 and 2 8rd CMC mags:
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/bdsmchs/1028092137.jpg


I apologize for the crappy pics. I left the DSLR at work tonight :(

Could carrying this around my shoulder while riding my motorcycle to and from work be considered legal? Assuming of course it is unloaded and locked.

CHS
12-29-2009, 9:54 AM
Could carrying this around my shoulder while riding my motorcycle to and from work be considered legal? Assuming of course it is unloaded and locked.

Yes,.

Chatterbox
03-19-2010, 3:27 PM
I'm thinking of using something like this lock right here:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41dUB1QISxL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Hypothetically, pushing the last button in the sequence would be faster then rotating a wheel.

advocatusdiaboli
04-25-2010, 10:42 PM
Personally, I think misdirection or concealment is important in the principles of camouflage. So I think the "Don't tread on me" on the murse is calling unnecessary attention to its purpose and telegraphing its contents to BGs and OPFORs.

"The element of surprise is a vital asset on the battle field and should never be given away only traded for more advantage."

--I might have read this somewhere Sun Tzu or Hart--if not then it seems good advice so I'll say it, Advocatus Diaboli

Sinixstar
04-25-2010, 11:01 PM
Sorry to bring back an old thread, but would something like this (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/CASE050-1.html) work for LUCC? I'm not looking to carry around town all the time just something small to carry, perhaps inside a bag, once in awhile (when needed).


Looks like your average laptop bag. Put a shoulder strap on it, and it's even easy to carry.

AMDG
04-26-2010, 11:04 AM
If you are worried about the cord, you could always used a zip-tie... you can't untie it, PIA to cut. ;)

Good idea. I need to rig up something for my new bag that doesn't have any loops for a lock.

I was also thinking of using key rings (to put my lock through). What do you guys think of that? Should I put loctite in the seems so they can't be easily defeated by a 10 year old?

aermotor
05-14-2010, 12:13 AM
Believe it or not, I just bought one of these small Condor pouches and my Kahr PM40 fits in it:

http://www.condoroutdoor.com/images/products/detail/MA16_007.1.jpg

http://www.condoroutdoor.com/ma16pocketpouchwithusflagpatch.aspx

I shortened the zipper lanyards to be just enough for a lock to fit through so you can't open it at all while it's locked. It fits the gun plus two mags, pretty nice for really small guns.

m98
05-14-2010, 1:15 AM
A question comes to mind for the LUCC's using the murse? If you are getting robbed/mugged for the murse pack, Are you pretty much screwed as to having to give up your weapon because it's only at a stage where it's pretty much useless?

djleisure
05-14-2010, 10:13 AM
A question comes to mind for the LUCC's using the murse? If you are getting robbed/mugged for the murse pack, Are you pretty much screwed as to having to give up your weapon because it's only at a stage where it's pretty much useless?
You're not screwed if you have other ways of neutralizing the perp, but yeah, you're screwed as far as stalling for time to unlock your bag, pull out your gun, load it and then shoot the guy. LUCC isn't really for "instant action" but it certainly could come in handy in plenty of other situations.

UserM4
05-14-2010, 12:11 PM
I have a few Maxpedition stuff and they're cool but too tacticool imo. Just yells "Look at me!"

Recently bought a 5.11 Small Tool Kit Bag in black. I really like it's discrete looks with no MOLLE attachments or anything.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8561/511manbag.jpg

* YKK® zippers
* Fold out organizing panel
* Three compartments
* Heavy duty nylon handles
* 1050 D nylon
* Non-slip padded shoulder strap
* High impact plastic D rings
* Measurements L 5 1/2" x W 9 1/2" x H 9 1/2" (I think a 6 pack of soda will fit inside the main compartment.

$29.99

ilikeguns
05-14-2010, 12:49 PM
Cant i just lock a backpack instead of having a purse?

kittyhawk63
10-16-2010, 4:33 PM
For our purposes, a camera logo is even better, as a locked camera bag is firmly in First Amendment territory. Of course, it may get a little more notice in movie theaters.

How about a label that says Paint Samples, Wallpaper Samples or Carpet Swatches?

Toast
10-16-2010, 11:15 PM
Cant i just lock a backpack instead of having a purse?

Yes

Saym14
12-09-2010, 1:05 PM
A question comes to mind for the LUCC's using the murse? If you are getting robbed/mugged for the murse pack, Are you pretty much screwed as to having to give up your weapon because it's only at a stage where it's pretty much useless?

anyways you cant shoot someone for merely snatching your purse. :rolleyes:

Cokebottle
12-09-2010, 8:05 PM
anyways you cant shoot someone for merely snatching your purse. :rolleyes:
If someone is threatening you with a deadly weapon, or if physically obviously capable of causing injury, yes, you can.

bplvr
12-12-2010, 5:48 PM
Try these links :

http://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/security_waist_pack.html


http://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/catalog/pacsafe-prosafe-card-lock-p-910.html

grammaton76
12-13-2010, 1:10 PM
How about a label that says Paint Samples, Wallpaper Samples or Carpet Swatches?

You could certainly do that, but then you run the risk of some housewife wanting to check out what you've got to offer.

I like plain, black, and unlabelled on my LUCC case personally.

RogueSniper
12-16-2010, 5:06 PM
Because I'm a med student, I think I can pull off carrying around a bag with:
http://secure.hostdeziners.com/www_supplysergeant_ca/store/images/product_images/18465.jpg

And it will actually carry med supplies PLUS. I'm going to try carrying it around to see if anyone thinks otherwise. I think a Maxpedition Remora will work for me.

We just had another possible gang shooting near my school. Thank God, we're in Comps right now and not too many people are near the school. Link (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/16/BA261GRNU9.DTL)

SarcoBlaster
12-16-2010, 5:23 PM
LUCC'd with my netbook case today (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=5459440) and nobody batted an eye.

choprzrul
12-16-2010, 7:28 PM
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/choprzrul/ccw2.jpg

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/choprzrul/ccw4.jpg

I tuck it under my arm and nobody gives me a second look. The lock ends up in my armpit and out of sight.

.

PyroFox79
12-16-2010, 10:23 PM
I dont know where the thread is, but some one on here tried using a Laptop case as a LUCC case and it worked well for them. Especially since you can throw it in a Backpack and no one would know.