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1923mack
10-27-2009, 9:15 AM
The standard 1911 is a bit large and heavy for CCW. The Colt Officers model has a shorter frame and slide, both better for CCW, but the Officers model in steel is relatively heavy. Colt made a few light weight Officers Models. That is the ultimate CCW from Colt, light and small. Kimber has their CDP Ultra and Compact in alloy and small frame. MS Safari used to have an alloy in a small frame. Who else makes or made alloy small frame 1911's?

civilsnake
10-27-2009, 9:34 AM
The standard 1911 is a bit large and heavy for CCW. The Colt Officers model has a shorter frame and slide, both better for CCW, but the Officers model in steel is relatively heavy. Colt made a few light weight Officers Models. That is the ultimate CCW from Colt, light and small. Kimber has their CDP Ultra and Compact in alloy and small frame. MS Safari used to have an alloy in a small frame. Who else makes or made alloy small frame 1911's?

Springfield Armory has some. Lightweight Champion is a Commander size from what I recall, and I think they have an alloy officer size. I don't know if the EMP is alloy.

I know S&W has some alloy frame guns, too, but not sure if they make an officer size.

civilsnake
10-27-2009, 9:41 AM
Yeah, SA has a Loaded Micro Lightweight. Alloy frame, stainless slide.

And yes, SW does offer a small frame alloy pistol as well.

Black Majik
10-27-2009, 9:44 AM
It's commander length, but how about S&W's scandium 1911s?

Daniel Hunter
10-27-2009, 9:49 AM
I have a 1911Sc...it's the same size as a commander.

(full sized frame, shortened slide)

dfletcher
10-27-2009, 9:56 AM
I don't understand why someone doesn't come out with an alloy 1911 frame of the same grip length as the Detonics for a 3" barreled 1911. The current alloy frames are about 1" longer than the Detonics, I have a Defender and would like to see the grip a bit shorter. Same thing with the EMP.

I have a few Detonics and the difference is noticeable.

Making the grip the same length as the Detonics would give the 1911 a height of 4" and I think that would be great. Lose a round, I know - but light AND concealable as heck would be nice.

m1match
10-27-2009, 10:25 AM
Springfield made the Lightweight Compact for many years but discontinued them a few years ago. They were officer's sized frames with a 4" barrel, in my opinion the ideal CCW 1911. Wilson also makes their Compact in several models, but I don't think the alloy framed ones are on the CA Roster.

Miltiades
10-27-2009, 11:16 AM
Colt still makes a gun similar to the 3.5 inch lightweight Officer's Model. The Colt Defender and New Agent are 3 inch guns with aluminum frame and Officer length grip. They weigh about 25 ounces and hold 7+1 rounds with the appropriate magazine. I've had a Defender for about 4 years and it has functioned well through about 1000 rounds.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/ColtDefender43.jpg

1923mack
10-27-2009, 11:27 AM
The Detonics Combat Master is a nice size CCW gun. And it is heavy, all steel, no aluminum or other light stuff on the Detonics.

DarkHorse
10-27-2009, 11:46 AM
Para-USA (http://www.paraord.com/new/product.php), formerly Para Ordnance, has a few models.

dfletcher
10-27-2009, 1:19 PM
Colt still makes a gun similar to the 3.5 inch lightweight Officer's Model. The Colt Defender and New Agent are 3 inch guns with aluminum frame and Officer length grip. They weigh about 25 ounces and hold 7+1 rounds with the appropriate magazine. I've had a Defender for about 4 years and it has functioned well through about 1000 rounds.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/ColtDefender43.jpg

My Defender is on the "I'm thinking about it" list with respect to having the grip shortened. A few parts from Detonics and I think it would work very well.

bayarea1911
10-27-2009, 2:16 PM
http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/cdp/ultra_cdp_II/

ive been lookin at this gun for years! just need to save my pennies and stop buyin everything else haha

sholling
10-27-2009, 3:33 PM
I'm a fan of the CCO format. That's an officers sized frame with a 4" barrel. That gives you the reliability and ballistics of a commander and the concealability of an officers size - without the sub par ballistics of a 3". The only alloy framed CCO on the @#$% list is a Kimber.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u197/damnfineguy/My%20Tots%201024/DSCF0592a.jpg
My Kimber Compact CDP modified with Esmeralda O'Sheehan's thin grips and an STI short trigger.

My second choice would be a commander format S&W SW1911PD.

BunnySlayer
10-27-2009, 3:50 PM
Wilson Combat makes probably the nicest one I've seen but it's pricey, as are all Wilsons. You get what you pay for though.