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xsquid
05-07-2005, 5:14 PM
It was just a matter of time...

510 DTC EUROP (http://www.edmarms.com/products/510dtc.htm)

xsquid
05-07-2005, 5:14 PM
It was just a matter of time...

510 DTC EUROP (http://www.edmarms.com/products/510dtc.htm)

pidooma
05-07-2005, 5:52 PM
There was one of those 510's on display at the last San Jose gun show.

Nice to see a gun manufacturer thinking of us kalifornians.

C.G.
05-07-2005, 6:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It was just a matter of time...

510 DTC EUROP </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know about you but I can't afford $7,500. This may be a better option for people like me - .408 Chey-tac which has similar ballistics to the .50 BMG and costs a lot less. In the meantime, I am getting a Beowulf .50 upper, which won't go that far but will blow pretty holes in engine blocks, pigs etc. up to 250 yards.
Chey-tac .408 (http://www.ferret50.com/ordering.html)

RRangel
05-07-2005, 9:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It was just a matter of time...

510 DTC EUROP </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know about you but I can't afford $7,500. This may be a better option for people like me - .408 Chey-tac which has similar ballistics to the .50 BMG and costs a lot less. In the meantime, I am getting a Beowulf .50 upper, which won't go that far but will blow pretty holes in engine blocks, pigs etc. up to 250 yards.
Chey-tac .408 (http://www.ferret50.com/ordering.html) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

EDM Arms also sells the same version of the Windrunner in .408 Cheytac and it's the same price. Unfortunately .408 Cheytac ammo won't be cheaper.

05-08-2005, 8:20 AM
The 510 DTC will be cheaper as it uses all the same components as the .50 BMG. You'll have to fire form all your own brass as no one is currently making 510 DTC.

RRangel
05-08-2005, 10:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 50_Shooter:
The 510 DTC will be cheaper as it uses all the same components as the .50 BMG. You'll have to fire form all your own brass as no one is currently making 510 DTC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are right. I wonder if there will ever be 510 DTC commercial ammo? It won't be too bad for reloaders.

delloro
05-08-2005, 10:41 AM
"The 510 DTC EUROP is made by fire forming a .50 BMG case in the 510 DTC EUROP chamber. The 510 DTC EUROP case is .100 of an inch shorter than the .50 BMG case, and has an 18-½ degree shoulder compared to the BMG’s 15-degree shoulder. The 510 DTC EUROP case measures .760 diameter at the top of the shoulder compared to the BMG’s measurement of .715 inch. .... Importantly, the .50 BMG cartridge will not chamber in the 510 DTC EUROP chamber and conversely, the 510 DTC EUROP will not chamber in the BMG chamber. "

WTF over?

bwiese
05-08-2005, 11:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by delloro:
" Importantly, the .50 BMG cartridge will not chamber in the 510 DTC EUROP chamber and conversely, the 510 DTC EUROP will not chamber in the BMG chamber. "

WTF over? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, Cal DOJ says that in determining if something's 50BMG capable, the 1st test is whether or not it can chamber a 50BMG round.

So this just allows this to be readily apparent that it's California-legal...

Bill Wiese
San Jose

05-08-2005, 1:33 PM
I'm glad we have Ted here for the run down! http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Besides being a little shorter, the shoulder angles are changed along with the taper of the case. Look at the regular case and then the 510 DTC before, during and after. http://www.edmarms.com/news.htm

EDM Arms is looking for a company to make brass/ammo but every major company is making brass for the military. At least that's what I've heard and something along the lines of losing their contract if they don't meet the demands.

delloro
05-08-2005, 2:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Technical Ted:
I think I understand your confusion.

After sizing a spent 50 BMG case with a 510 DTC EUROP die (which roughly forms the case into the new shape), the case is trimmed, primed, charged and a bullet is seated.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well, if that's what they mean (and it does make sense) then they had better change what they have on the 'net, b/c they say that the .50BMG can be chambered in the new chamber, a statutory no-no.

thanks for clearing that up.

Technical Ted
05-08-2005, 7:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by delloro:
well, if that's what they mean (and it does make sense) then they had better change what they have on the 'net, b/c they say that the .50BMG can be chambered in the new chamber, a statutory no-no. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I didn't see where they state that a 50 BMG round or cartridge can be chambered in the new chamber them say that. All I saw was their comment: "The 510 DTC EUROP is made by fire forming a .50 BMG case in the 510 DTC EUROP chamber.....

A case is not a cartridge. A case is a component.