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fpasuncion
10-21-2009, 9:51 AM
How's it going guys?
I haven't surfed through calguns in awhile.
I had a thought that I never looked into...

Can uzi's be made legal in CA? ...16"bbl...overall length req...bullet button, etc.

gregorylucas
10-21-2009, 9:53 AM
I was under the impression you had to have a stock attached, barrel over 16", overall length over 30" and fix a 10 rounder in the grip. Then yes it is legal, I saw one at an FFL in Martinez.

Greg

freakshow10mm
10-21-2009, 10:03 AM
PRK Arms in Fresno is the California Uzi specialist. Give them a call for your Uzi needs.

Decoligny
10-21-2009, 10:24 AM
If you were to get someone to make an "Uzi" style firearm that was not an actual "Uzi" and it met the minimum length requirement for barrel and overall lenght, and it did not meet the assault weapon definition via features, then yes you could get/own one legally.

However, if it is an actual "Uzi", then it is a listed assault weapon and illegal.

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the
following designated semiautomatic firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models
identified as follows:
(A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and
86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.

mmartin
10-21-2009, 10:34 AM
If you were to get someone to make an "Uzi" style firearm that was not an actual "Uzi" and it met the minimum length requirement for barrel and overall lenght, and it did not meet the assault weapon definition via features, then yes you could get/own one legally.

However, if it is an actual "Uzi", then it is a listed assault weapon and illegal.

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the
following designated semiautomatic firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models
identified as follows:
(A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and
86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.

does that mean any UZI, all models they ever made (pistol, carbine, etc.)?
megan

Decoligny
10-21-2009, 11:15 AM
does that mean any UZI, all models they ever made (pistol, carbine, etc.)?
megan

Looks like it. Unless UZI made anything that doesn't fall into the semiautomatic rifle or semiautomatic pistol category.

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the
following designated semiautomatic firearms: (a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models identified as follows:
(A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.
(3) Beretta AR-70.
(4) CETME Sporter.
(5) Colt AR-15 series.
(6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C.
(7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
(8) MAS 223.
(9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1.
(10) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M11.
(11) SKS with detachable magazine.
(12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
(13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
(14) Sterling MK-6.
(15) Steyer AUG.
(16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
(17) Armalite AR-180.
(18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
(19) Calico M-900.
(20) J&R ENG M-68.
(21) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
(b) All of the following specified pistols:
(1) UZI.
(2) Encom MP-9 and MP-45.
(3) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M-11.
(C) Advance Armament Inc. M-11.
(D) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11.
(4) Intratec TEC-9.
(5) Sites Spectre.
(6) Sterling MK-7.
(7) Calico M-950.
(8) Bushmaster Pistol.
(c) All of the following specified shotguns:
(1) Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
(2) Striker 12.
(3) The Streetsweeper type S/S Inc. SS/12.
(d) Any firearm declared by the court pursuant to Section 12276.5 to be an assault weapon that is specified as an assault weapon in a list promulgated pursuant to Section 12276.5.
(e) The term "series" includes all other models that are only variations, with minor differences, of those models listed in subdivision (a), regardless of the manufacturer.
(f) This section is declaratory of existing law, as amended, and a clarification of the law and the Legislature's intent which bans the weapons enumerated in this section, the weapons included in the list promulgated by the Attorney General pursuant to Section 12276.5, and any other models which are only variations of those weapons with minor differences, regardless of the manufacturer. The Legislature has defined assault weapons as the types, series, and models listed in this section because it was the most effective way to identify and restrict a specific class of semiautomatic weapons.

bwiese
10-21-2009, 11:23 AM
Uzi-marked rifles and pistols are banned via Roberti-Roos since 1989.

Group Industries & Vector Arms have Uzi clones that can be rendered CA legal thru appropriate features configuration(s) as they are not banned by name.

gazzavc
10-21-2009, 11:26 AM
That's the reason we can't have the Sterling Semi-Auto's here in CA either.

Which sucks because they are pretty cool.

G

6172crew
10-21-2009, 12:21 PM
There are a few models of UZI: A,B, Mini, Micro. I think the mini is the way to go, of course I own one so maybe that's why I prefer it.

When I bought it I had the choice of a full sized and a mini, after trying out both in full auto I liked the mini for it's faster rate of fire and the better folding stock.

Forgot to add: this is kept out of state.

fevillago
10-21-2009, 12:41 PM
here is good info if you go with vector.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=220769

Got a look at the Mini a few weeks back now, had a one round clip and was tacked in ever so slightly...this thing is one of the sweetest looking pistols I have ever seen.

Give them a call, have no reservations, this is a sweet gun, but be sure you ship it to someone like Rifle Gear, Bright Spot, J&J, etc. It is a very safe gun with a safety, a handle safety, and a 10 # trigger (at least)

I just got the mini back from Bill springfield. He did a trigger job on it. The cost was $39.00. The trigger now has 70% less pre travel and breaks cleaner, I would say he removed maybe two pounds off the final umph, but with so much less pretravel the gun is way easier to hit the bullseye with. Here is bills email address wspringfield@comcast.net


I wanted a mini Uzi badly, but no one had any in stock, so I called the supplier...Vector. I talked with the owner for some reason and in one day he cal legaled a mini Uzi and shipped it...for a whopping $1,150.00 out the door...gotta love that man...

They really are easy to deal with.

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr177/bubbapug1/mini5-1.jpg

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr177/bubbapug1/mini3-1.jpg

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr177/bubbapug1/miniselector.jpg

Kharn
10-21-2009, 1:20 PM
Vector uses Group Industries receivers, the model name is 'HR4332S' (S for semiauto, no S for full-auto), not 'Uzi'.

fpasuncion
10-21-2009, 1:24 PM
There are a few models of UZI: A,B, Mini, Micro. I think the mini is the way to go, of course I own one so maybe that's why I prefer it.

When I bought it I had the choice of a full sized and a mini, after trying out both in full auto I liked the mini for it's faster rate of fire and the better folding stock.

Forgot to add: this is kept out of state.


KEY sentence!!....Forgot to add: this is kept out of state

fpasuncion
10-21-2009, 1:25 PM
Thanks everyone for enlightening me on this subject.

tombinghamthegreat
10-21-2009, 3:36 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=69973&highlight=mac

here is a idea. no need to fix the mag either.

caiman
10-21-2009, 4:15 PM
Call Vector direct, you can potentialy save $hundreds$ over buying from PRK. Vector can make it CA legal for you too and ship directly to your local FFL. 801-295-1917

Bullet buttons are not too hard to make.

adding - Vector's price on a carbine is $895.00 Plus $20. for ship. If you have them send you the lower to your home addy, add another $20. So as is, your looking at $935 plus whatever your local dealer charges for transfer & dros.


PRK Arms in Fresno is the California Uzi specialist. Give them a call for your Uzi needs.

What makes them the specialist? Vector makes them and can mod them for CA.

fevillago
12-17-2009, 8:19 PM
I have not seen any vector uzis in 45 cal.version here .

Are they not worth it?

http://vectorarms.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=200

joelberg
12-17-2009, 8:27 PM
Man, CA really hates Jewish made firearms, don't they? They banned all UZI's and Galil's by name? I'm going to see if we can get an Israeli made Uzi clone receiver for CA. Wish me luck.

Mulay El Raisuli
12-18-2009, 8:07 AM
I have not seen any vector uzis in 45 cal.version here .

Are they not worth it?

http://vectorarms.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=200


Does anyone make a .45ACP carbine? One that's actually worth owning, I mean.

The Raisuli

Shane916
12-18-2009, 9:42 AM
Does anyone make a .45ACP carbine? One that's actually worth owning, I mean.

The Raisuli

HK USC

Shane916
12-18-2009, 9:43 AM
Man, CA really hates Jewish made firearms, don't they? They banned all UZI's and Galil's by name? I'm going to see if we can get an Israeli made Uzi clone receiver for CA. Wish me luck.

CA hates all firearms equally :D

Rooftop Voter
12-18-2009, 10:21 AM
Wouldnt the new Century Arms Sterling made by Wiselite Arms be legal (w/ other required modifications of course) because the receiver would be considered OLL?

That's the reason we can't have the Sterling Semi-Auto's here in CA either.

Which sucks because they are pretty cool.

G

Mulay El Raisuli
12-19-2009, 6:17 AM
HK USC


Thanks.

The Raisuli

bubbapug1
12-19-2009, 9:17 PM
Vector uzis are legal with a bullet button in california