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timdps
10-21-2009, 9:49 AM
Google shows this posted to a number of gunboards, but a search for "Fred Maslack" in the calguns Google search yields no hits.

Go this off 1919A4.com: http://1919a4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28224


A Gun Registration Plan That Will Work

Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont's own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.

Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners" and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun.

Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals.

Vermont's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says

Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state. It's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.

dantodd
10-21-2009, 9:55 AM
While it will never happen the "registration" portion might actually pass muster as it would be an effective way in which the state's interest in ensuring a well regulated militia could be achieved.

Dark Paladin
10-21-2009, 10:05 AM
Apparently this has been posted back since 2000 (per Google). Not sure how accurate this is without bill numbers and etc.

Super Spy
10-21-2009, 10:12 AM
I'm in favor of this.......and I'd be highly amused to hear the Liberal's Squawking after it passed....LMAO

civilsnake
10-21-2009, 10:26 AM
In order for this to be fair, the Vermont gov't would need to provide firearms to the populace or offer vouchers. It's not cheap to purchase and maintain civil defense-grade weapons.

Welcome to Vermont! Here's your AR15 and ammo!

dirtnap
10-21-2009, 10:34 AM
Vermont....I love you.
We need to recruit some of these legislators from Vermont to give us a hand over here.

rklute
10-21-2009, 10:41 AM
Far as I can tell there is no Fred Maslack currently in the Vermont legislature.

chiefcrash
10-21-2009, 12:02 PM
Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state. It's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit.

Because Alaska isn't a state?

tiki
10-21-2009, 12:08 PM
In order for this to be fair, the Vermont gov't would need to provide firearms to the populace or offer vouchers. It's not cheap to purchase and maintain civil defense-grade weapons.

Welcome to Vermont! Here's your AR15 and ammo!

They can just have a gun buyback event over here and get a bunch of them cheap.

easy
10-21-2009, 5:59 PM
search shows this is from 2001.....

GrizzlyGuy
10-21-2009, 6:03 PM
search shows this is from 2001.....

Yup, and the bill was introduced in 2000:

http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2000/bills/intro/h-760.htm

7x57
10-21-2009, 6:30 PM
In order for this to be fair, the Vermont gov't would need to provide firearms to the populace or offer vouchers. It's not cheap to purchase and maintain civil defense-grade weapons.


So what? Freedom isn't free. Life isn't fair. I think it's clear historically that the states have the power to make such a requirement.

The states *may* choose to assist, and some did historically. Perhaps it is good policy. But I believe there is no requirement for them to do so.

"Freedom isn't free" isn't just a saying that means DC has to pay into Gura's yacht fund again (though, happily, it does also mean that).

7x57

freakshow10mm
10-21-2009, 6:45 PM
Vermont....I love you.
We need to recruit some of these legislators from Vermont to give us a hand over here.
Vermont is full of liberals.

a1c
10-21-2009, 6:48 PM
Vermont is full of liberals.

It's also choke-full of libertarians.

freakshow10mm
10-21-2009, 6:49 PM
Then why do they have a bottle deposit?

MP301
10-21-2009, 7:33 PM
Yup, and the bill was introduced in 2000:

http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2000/bills/intro/h-760.htm

While I cant see it passing...I would sure like to see em try. If it was introduced in 2000, I think 10 years is enough time to reintroduce this bill. And the Political climate is a wee bit better as well....Amusing

daskraut
10-21-2009, 7:35 PM
I dream of a world where a bill like this would pass!!

Legasat
10-21-2009, 7:35 PM
Vermont is full of liberals.

Gun-toting liberals...