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supersonic
10-17-2009, 1:56 PM
MK III......50CAL (literally & figuratively!!!:D)......Imminent shock wave to follow!

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3740.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3731.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3729.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3735.jpg

I'm about halfway through loading my first batch of 50 rounds (647gr. MIL-SURP BALL over 242gr. H50BMG in new CBC/MAGTECH brass primed with CCI #35's) that will be 'detonated' for fire-forming the brass this week. I'm slightly giddy with excitement. Slightly.:cool:

CSACANNONEER
10-17-2009, 1:59 PM
Gun goes boom. Just like any other gun. Have fun. Where are you planning on shooting the ball at?

supersonic
10-17-2009, 2:08 PM
Well, since SacValley has put a 'ban' on 50's (supposedly the "noise" complaints from "neighbors" :rolleyes:-from a reliable source) I guess it will either be at YSA , Spenceville, or ElDorado National Forest.

justin_5585
10-17-2009, 2:18 PM
If you don't mind me asking, how much did the upper set you back, and how difficult has the reloading process been? Cost per round? I want one....Bad.

SJgunguy24
10-17-2009, 2:23 PM
Thats obsene.
Looks like a midget draging around a horse co*k.

Acorn556
10-17-2009, 2:27 PM
I'm wondering why this one is CA approved while the others arent. Something about the bolt?
Where did you get it and how much did it cost? Some of us might want one.

Uriah02
10-17-2009, 2:27 PM
Well, since SacValley has put a 'ban' on 50's (supposedly the "noise" complaints from "neighbors" :rolleyes:-from a reliable source) I guess it will either be at YSA , Spenceville, or ElDorado National Forest.

I heard there's a range on Ione with 1000 yards...

Joe
10-17-2009, 2:28 PM
awesome

The Director
10-17-2009, 2:29 PM
I'm wondering why this one is CA approved while the others arent. Something about the bolt?
Where did you get it and how much did it cost? Some of us might want one.

Cause it's not a .50 BMG. It's a .510 DTC:D

Acorn556
10-17-2009, 2:29 PM
Is there enough room in Eldorado to shoot this thing? IF you know a couple spots I'd like the PGS coordinates for the head and tail of the trail. I'm up there a few times a year so some shooting spots would be nice.

SkatinJJ
10-17-2009, 2:30 PM
If you don't mind me asking, how much did the upper set you back, and how difficult has the reloading process been? Cost per round? I want one....Bad.

Enquiring minds would like to know...:D

Sweet deal. I see that as another tweak in the nose to the folks in Sac who want NONE OF THIS!!!

Semper FI!!!

JJ

Acorn556
10-17-2009, 2:31 PM
Cause it's not a .50 BMG. It's a .510 DTC:D

Ah....so custom reloads? Doesn't sound popular with mail order being banned.

Acorn556
10-17-2009, 2:34 PM
Can this shoot other .5x sized rounds?

ke6guj
10-17-2009, 2:35 PM
I'm wondering why this one is CA approved while the others arent. Something about the bolt?
Where did you get it and how much did it cost? Some of us might want one.

Its is legal because it is chambered in .510DTC, not .50BMG. .50BMG rifles are regulated under the .50BMG ban, .510DTC rifles aren't.

www.bohicaarms.com is where you get the one the OP has. They start at $1300 and go up from there.

There are other vendors that offer .510DTC uppers as well.



Oh, and if you have a Registered AW AR-15 or AR-10 lower, you can use a .50BMG upper legally in CA.

ke6guj
10-17-2009, 2:39 PM
Can this shoot other .5x sized rounds?this one can only shoot .510DTC. Other CA-legal chambers that this, and other vendors offer, is .50 Spotter, .416 Barret, .338 Lapua.

HappyG
10-17-2009, 2:44 PM
That bullet looks bigger then a marksalot marker.

The Director
10-17-2009, 3:27 PM
Ah....so custom reloads? Doesn't sound popular with mail order being banned.

It's not pistol ammo.

supersonic
10-17-2009, 3:28 PM
My particular upper is the 36" fluted BBL version (for a 50, I want as much range & VELOCITY as possible!!:cool:) with a 30 MOA rail. I also got the spare flat rail (for shooting under 1000yd.) and the spare parts kit for the bolt (recommended by factory). I was completely unimpressed by the bipod, which is why I swapped it with a Harris I had lying around. I'd like to put a Prince on it eventually, if possible. As far as the ammo questions are concerned, first of all, I haven't calculated how much each round is costing me YET. But I believe it can be as little as $1.50-$1.75/per. As far as availability goes, if you don't reload, I would suggest another caliber. Custom ammo is out there (Mr. Kubota), but there is a long wait. Now, for handloaders: the only thing you will need is a set of ,510 dies (mine are made by LEE Precision). The rest (brass/bullets/primers/powder/load data/case prep tools) is all 50BMG. All that needs to be done is that the BMG cases first must be trimmed .010". Then, they need to be sized in the DTC die. After that, the brass is primed & loaded (pref. w/ 'cheap' non-match projectiles) for fire-forming the cases - loading is identical to BMG specs. After first firing, you now have your own custom 50DTC brass for your rifle's chamber. Next loading is where the accuracy/tuning starts! I have 3 boxes of Hornady 750gr. A-MAX ; 1 box Barnes LE/TAC 750gr. Solids ; and 1 box Barnes 800gr.(:eek:) Solid Bore-Riders ready to go into my once-fired beauties.:D:D:D

Napalm Bulldog
10-17-2009, 3:32 PM
Thats the name of the Tank I trained in when I was in the Army in 94! BOHICA! Nice rifle So it attaches to an AR lower?

NobleTheBarbarian
10-17-2009, 3:33 PM
that can kill people

CSACANNONEER
10-17-2009, 3:35 PM
On the topic of bipods, I dumped my Prince long ago (Sorry Darren). The QC issues I saw really disappointed me. The set screw holes were not lined up well and one side of the screws were exposed. The bipod really needed a major tune up from the second I received it. I ended up getting an ALS bipod with a custom ALS adaptor block for my AR50. Obviously, my ALS upper came with an ALS bipod too. Anyway, I would suggest looking at ALS bipods or State Arms bipods and trying to figure out how to adapt either one of them to your rifle. If you end up getting serious about shooting from a bipod, you might want to consider a Sinclair bipod. They are not really a tactical bipod but, they are know to be among the best around.

supersonic
10-17-2009, 3:38 PM
Gun goes boom. Just like any other gun.

Actually, after the trigger is pulled, all similarities end as far as the shooter's experience goes. And I guess this would also hold true for the target's experience, too!:65:

CSACANNONEER
10-17-2009, 3:47 PM
Actually, after the trigger is pulled, all similarities end as far as the shooter's experience goes. And I guess this would also hold true for the target's experience, too!:65:

No, with the MB, your rifle should recoil less than a 30-30. It'll be more like the push of a muzzle loader than the hard kick of a 300WM. Trust me, I've only run two rounds through my 300WM because it hurt! I spent the next three days shooting my 50s without a problem. You'll be surprised at the lack of damage a 50 bullet can do. I've seen less meat damage done with a 50BMG than a 30-06! Once you get over the size thing, it's really no different than any other rifle. Well, the MB diverts the noise and shock wave back towards the firing line so, the people next to you do get a different experience. That's about it though.

Fot
10-17-2009, 4:00 PM
MK III......50CAL (literally & figuratively!!!:D)......Imminent shock wave to follow!

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3740.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3731.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3729.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/giftedgiver/DSCN3735.jpg

I'm about halfway through loading my first batch of 50 rounds (647gr. MIL-SURP BALL over 242gr. H50BMG in new CBC/MAGTECH brass primed with CCI #35's) that will be 'detonated' for fire-forming the brass this week. I'm slightly giddy with excitement. Slightly.:cool:

That is sooo bad ***..

SJgunguy24
10-17-2009, 4:07 PM
that can kill people

Do you say that everytime you look at a car......or a Medical Doctor?

EastBayRidge
10-17-2009, 4:14 PM
Tag. Interested in the 338 version, and wondering how this one performs accuracy-wise.

supersonic
10-17-2009, 4:14 PM
No, with the MB, your rifle should recoil less than a 30-30. It'll be more like the push of a muzzle loader than the hard kick of a 300WM. Trust me, I've only run two rounds through my 300WM because it hurt! I spent the next three days shooting my 50s without a problem. You'll be surprised at the lack of damage a 50 bullet can do. I've seen less meat damage done with a 50BMG than a 30-06! Once you get over the size thing, it's really no different than any other rifle. Well, the MB diverts the noise and shock wave back towards the firing line so, the people next to you do get a different experience. That's about it though.

I wasn't referring to recoil. I've shot an AR-50 and I could have sat behind it all day. I meant the overall experience as in that HUUGE "KA-BLAM-THUNK!!!! - WHHOOOSH!!!" head-pressurizing, upper-body push. I don't know of any 30-caliber rifle that feels like it. In fact, I don't know of any 30 that can blow a man-sized target in half. I have also been witness to a whitetail buck getting 750 grains from a Barrett............both front limbs were broken, as well as its back - and it took a few seconds before it fell & died. I must say it was utterly devastating and was very unpleasant to watch. It was unnerving to see an animal try to run away with the whole front of it's body's bone structure crushed. I personally would never hunt with a .50. It's really overkill. The terminal shock of that round is friggin' insane. 12,000 lbs.+ per square foot of pure, ferocious energy is nothing to mess with!

Fjold
10-17-2009, 4:17 PM
No, with the MB, your rifle should recoil less than a 30-30. It'll be more like the push of a muzzle loader than the hard kick of a 300WM. Trust me, I've only run two rounds through my 300WM because it hurt! I spent the next three days shooting my 50s without a problem. You'll be surprised at the lack of damage a 50 bullet can do. I've seen less meat damage done with a 50BMG than a 30-06! Once you get over the size thing, it's really no different than any other rifle. Well, the MB diverts the noise and shock wave back towards the firing line so, the people next to you do get a different experience. That's about it though.

Target Bullets for the .510s tend to have really thick jackets just like ball ammo (which is made to penetrate steel). Even hunting bullets for 50s are made to penetrate all the way through an elephant's skull or completely through a buff's body. In light-bodied game they all tend to act like solids and do minimal tissue damage. (If you can call a .510" hole minimal)

Acorn556
10-17-2009, 5:09 PM
This might be worth having on hand for the end of the world.

Midian
10-17-2009, 5:23 PM
JEE
BUS


that's awesome, I love it

EBR Works
10-17-2009, 5:31 PM
Congrats on the new toy and welcome to the club! It's true that the experience of firing one is unlike any other rifle available to civilians, at least in Cali. Keep your mouth closed when you pull the trigger...

Too bad you aren't in SoCal to join the rest of your .50 cal brothers at Angeles tomorrow.

The daughter of one of my friends shooting my DTC Ferret50:

y8V9W5B9iGI

a1fabweld
10-17-2009, 5:38 PM
Badazz dude! Just baddazz. I'm planning on getting a 50 BMG Bohica upper primarily to shoot in NV 1-2 times a year. I like being able to buy factory ammo with no wait. If it was something I would be shooting alot of (as in Sac Valley not banning them) I'd opt for the DTC. Congrat's man!

Seesm
10-17-2009, 5:48 PM
Just asking cuz I did not see a reason to name it "Bend Over Here It Comes Again" Not being a wise guy just maybe I missed something...

Blue
10-17-2009, 5:49 PM
Damn, the newer bolts on these look way nicer/sturdier than the one in my MK2.

Blue
10-17-2009, 5:49 PM
Just asking cuz I did not see a reason to name it "Bend Over Here It Comes Again" Not being a wise guy just maybe I missed something...

Brand of the upper is BOHICA. BendOverHereItComesAgain

yock
10-17-2009, 5:53 PM
Brand of the upper is BOHICA. BendOverHereItComesAgain

Thanks I was lost too.:confused:

Seesm
10-17-2009, 6:02 PM
hahah. ok thanks... I am surprised I never heard that before... Ahh maybe I foregot it...? :) Thanks

GoingPro
10-17-2009, 6:16 PM
how do you fit something like in a safe?

ke6guj
10-17-2009, 6:30 PM
carefully :D

Spyder
10-17-2009, 7:19 PM
Beat ya by a bunch! I've had mine for ten or so months. Look for the thread!

Going to to Oroville tomorrow to shoot it. Highly recommended over Spenceville.

Gofasterdammit
10-17-2009, 7:27 PM
Nice rifle. I want to do a bohica build but there's two problems. 1. Nowhere to shoot (near Sacramento) and 2. My lack of knowledge of reloading.

supersonic
10-17-2009, 7:33 PM
Damn, the newer bolts on these look way nicer/sturdier than the one in my MK2.

Actually, I was a bit disappointed by this bolt. It IS beefy - the HEAD, that is. See, the head (which is very solid) is only about 3 inches long before it ends with that new 'improved' (bigger) handle which screws into the right rear. From there back is just a hollow 10"-12" metal tube - it makes the whole bolt assembly "front-heavy" and rather anemic-feeling. I was expecting the whole unit to be similar to an AR-50 or Serbu bolt : like a semi-solid steel BAR weighing in at a pound or two. Oh well, the proof's in the performance, so we'll see. I'm sure it will work perfectly well, as Chris @ Bohica has reportedly worked most all the bugs out since the MK I. But I sure could live without a cow showing off it's rectal balloon-knot plastered on my rifle!!!:o

Spyder
10-17-2009, 9:03 PM
Nice rifle. I want to do a bohica build but there's two problems. 1. Nowhere to shoot (near Sacramento) and 2. My lack of knowledge of reloading.


Lots of places to shoot within an hour or so of Sac. Ammo isn't all that hard to buy in .510 DTC if you don't know how to load either.

coop44
10-17-2009, 9:35 PM
me want big boom bad. scare neighbors in nevada.

Blue
10-17-2009, 9:40 PM
Actually, I was a bit disappointed by this bolt. It IS beefy - the HEAD, that is. See, the head (which is very solid) is only about 3 inches long before it ends with that new 'improved' (bigger) handle which screws into the right rear. From there back is just a hollow 10"-12" metal tube - it makes the whole bolt assembly "front-heavy" and rather anemic-feeling. I was expecting the whole unit to be similar to an AR-50 or Serbu bolt : like a semi-solid steel BAR weighing in at a pound or two. Oh well, the proof's in the performance, so we'll see. I'm sure it will work perfectly well, as Chris @ Bohica has reportedly worked most all the bugs out since the MK I. But I sure could live without a cow showing off it's rectal balloon-knot plastered on my rifle!!!:o

Maybe it is just the bigger bolt handle but for some reason the main bolt body looks alot different than mine to me. If I could find my camera I'd post a pic...

DREADNOUGHT78
10-17-2009, 9:46 PM
I heard there's a range on Ione with 1000 yards...

Sac Valley shooting Center is in Sloughouse near Ione.

JPZ
10-17-2009, 11:37 PM
that is all kinds of awesome

johnrunner89
10-17-2009, 11:54 PM
:shock: I dont see that everyday lol

evollep3
10-18-2009, 12:20 AM
nice i just shot mines today they are a great upper to have
here's my buddy shooting it today
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/Evollep3/DSC01823.jpg

unclejesse
10-18-2009, 12:44 AM
You will LOVE it :D

50BMGBOB
10-18-2009, 4:20 AM
If you want to come to Concord. Diablo Rod and Gun is having it's semi annual 50BMG match on Nov 21. It's only 200 yards but it is a lot of fun. There is always the 1000 yard FCSA matches in Coalinga and Reno too. PM me if you want more info. I'm the match director for the Concord and the Coalinga matches.

supersonic
10-18-2009, 10:51 AM
PM sent!

SoCalRandy
10-18-2009, 11:11 AM
Thanks I was lost too.:confused:

+1.... now I get it!

Solidsnake87
10-18-2009, 11:46 AM
In the words of Eric Cartman----Jesus tap-dancing christo!!!!!!!! That is ginormous!

bomb_on_bus
10-18-2009, 12:16 PM
now all you need is a hot chick posing with the rifle!:D

supersonic
10-19-2009, 4:13 PM
now all you need is a hot chick posing with the rifle!:D

Yes.....a REAL tall one with REAL BIG 'components.';)

zangetsu
10-19-2009, 5:31 PM
bad ***. i love it :D

Justintoxicated
10-19-2009, 5:32 PM
Why Does it need a Bullet Button?

stix213
10-19-2009, 5:35 PM
Tell me this is your HD weapon of choice :D

stix213
10-19-2009, 5:37 PM
Why Does it need a Bullet Button?

Pistol grip I believe

ke6guj
10-19-2009, 5:37 PM
Why Does it need a Bullet Button?In its pictured configuration, it shouldn't need one. But, if the OP is dual-using the lower for both the DTC upper and standard semi-auto upper, its not really worth messing with, and what would you gain by having a standard mag release while it is a DTC?

supersonic
10-19-2009, 6:46 PM
In its pictured configuration, it shouldn't need one. But, if the OP is dual-using the lower for both the DTC upper and standard semi-auto upper, its not really worth messing with, and what would you gain by having a standard mag release while it is a DTC?

In a Nutshell.:cool:

Justintoxicated
10-19-2009, 9:13 PM
In its pictured configuration, it shouldn't need one. But, if the OP is dual-using the lower for both the DTC upper and standard semi-auto upper, its not really worth messing with, and what would you gain by having a standard mag release while it is a DTC?


WTH it uses the standard trigger then?

dwh100
10-19-2009, 10:21 PM
What gives? No tactical sling? :)

dot429
10-19-2009, 10:22 PM
Nice rifle, but what's the "bend over" thing about...?

ke6guj
10-19-2009, 10:29 PM
WTH it uses the standard trigger then?yup, it will work with a standard FCG. however, some 50BMG primers may be too hard to ignite on the first try. In that case, you can swap out the hammer spring for a stronger one, or swap out the entire FCG for a Jard trigger that is set up with a heavy hammer and spring for the 50, but will still work fine with a 5.56 upper.

Other than that, just remove the buffer and spring and the bolt hold-open (and they make a modified unit that you can use if you want) and you can use the DTC upper. Then, just swap uppers and put the buffer and spring back in, and you are back to 5.56.

Nice rifle, but what's the "bend over" thing about...?

Name of the company.

supersonic
12-06-2009, 12:02 AM
Thats obsene.
Looks like a midget draging around a horse co*k.

:rofl2:Actually......it looks like a midget WITH an elephant c**k.:rofl2: