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frunkis
10-17-2009, 11:17 AM
I am at the gunshow in vallejo today (first gun show ever). I am torn between three guns, and have money burning in my wallet. One of the guns is a curio coach gun that the seller says I can take home tody. Is this right? Sorry for the bad grammer, I am posting from my blackberry.

tgriffin
10-17-2009, 11:22 AM
If it is indeed a curio (older than 50 years) you can take it home cash and carry. I would suggest however, that you get a bill of sale listing serial number, sellers name address and drivers license number.

striker3
10-17-2009, 11:22 AM
As long as it is a true C&R longun, then cash and carry is legal.

Here is a post with links to the relevant Penal Codes:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=803555&postcount=3

frunkis
10-17-2009, 11:24 AM
Thank you guys for the quick responses.

CSACANNONEER
10-17-2009, 11:26 AM
Remember to get whatever paperwork the gun show requires for you to carry it out of the show. I've seen people get accused of theft because such and such form was not filled out.

devildog999
10-17-2009, 11:29 AM
I know you were all thinking it

:useless:

frunkis
10-17-2009, 11:45 AM
I still haven't made up my mind. The coach gun is beautiful, it looks new, that's why I asked. The decision is between a siaga 12 for 699, siaga 308 for 399, or the coach gun for 400.

frunkis
10-17-2009, 11:49 AM
It's very hard being at a gun show with money and encouragement from my wife. I am a very indecisive guy. Maybe I should just buy ammo.

CSACANNONEER
10-17-2009, 11:55 AM
It's very hard being at a gun show with money and encouragement from my wife. I am a very indecisive guy. Maybe I should just buy ammo.

You can not go wrong with ammo!

as far as the Saigas, they are trendy amongst the tacticool AK crowd. The coach gun is trendy with cowboy shooters and yahoos who just go out to the desert and blast away at things. It will really depend on what you want your next gun to do. If those were my only three choices, I'd go with a 7.62x39 Saiga. I like mine and I'm leaving it stock. But, your needs are going to be different than mine. If you really can't decide, just buy ammo.

trautert
10-17-2009, 11:57 AM
Make sure that coach gun isn't a recent faux-copy of a hammer gun made in Russia, Turkey or China. Those don't count as C&R.
Tom

frunkis
10-17-2009, 12:07 PM
They were both made in china. Maybe I heard the guy wrong, but since I have a couple shotguns I am staying away from the coach gun. Thank you all for the input.

striker3
10-17-2009, 12:19 PM
They were both made in china. Maybe I heard the guy wrong, but since I have a couple shotguns I am staying away from the coach gun. Thank you all for the input.

If they are chinese reproductions, they probably do not qualify as C&R. The firearm must have been actually manufactured 50 years ago or more. It is not based off of the date of the design.

Dr Rockso
10-17-2009, 12:25 PM
I still haven't made up my mind. The coach gun is beautiful, it looks new, that's why I asked. The decision is between a siaga 12 for 699, siaga 308 for 399, or the coach gun for 400.
Saigas are a great deal. Find one in 5.45x39 and you'll actually be able to afford to shoot the thing.

frunkis
10-17-2009, 12:29 PM
I endend up just buying ammo, I don't need another gun to feed ammo too when I don't have enough for what I have. Thank you all again for helping me.

frunkis
10-17-2009, 12:30 PM
The calgun booth was great, with a lot of traffic. They did a wonderful job of promoting the site. I was a little shy so I did not go up to it

dixieD
10-17-2009, 1:33 PM
There were some decent garands there. Get one of those, and walk out the door with it.

I was there earlier and thought the show was pretty good. It was packed, and many of the vendors had some very nice specimens.

I used the opportunity to get a DPMS 20in A4, and a detachable handguard/sight to finally finish my calguns.net build (I'll post pictures in a separate thread).

Anyway the show was good today. To the OP get the Garand.

Sabot
10-17-2009, 2:35 PM
If the Saiga .308 is a short barrel, at that price I would go for it.

mofugly13
10-17-2009, 2:38 PM
Back when I bought my sks, 12 or so years ago, C&R were cash and carry, then a few years later, C&R had to be DROS'd, when did it change back?

Mssr. Eleganté
10-17-2009, 2:47 PM
Back when I bought my sks, 12 or so years ago, C&R were cash and carry, then a few years later, C&R had to be DROS'd, when did it change back?

All firearms still have to be DROS's if you get them from a California licensed dealer. Some C&R firearms (long guns that are at least 50 years old) can be acquired without going through a dealer or DROS, but only if you acquire them from a Californian who is not a California licensed dealer.

hill billy
10-18-2009, 7:50 AM
$699 for a Saiga 12?!?!?!?!?!?!? I hope it's converted at that price.

frunkis
10-18-2009, 6:47 PM
To correct my earlier post, it was 399 for a 762 siaga. The price for the siaga 12 didn't seem unreasonable, but it didn't seem like a deal either. It was not converted.

hill billy
10-18-2009, 7:15 PM
Saiga 12's are $500 all day long and under that if you are patient.

HondaMasterTech
10-18-2009, 8:03 PM
In another 25 years you'll be able to cash/carry a Glock 17. :)

Digital_Boy
10-18-2009, 11:00 PM
In another 25 years you'll be able to cash/carry a Glock 17. :)

Nope. Cash and carry only applies to C&R long guns. Handguns (or any gun that may be concealed on your person) still need a DROS according to CA state law. I believe in the more permissive states, C&R's are cash and carry for both long guns and handguns.

Mssr. Eleganté
10-18-2009, 11:12 PM
I believe in the more permissive states, C&R's are cash and carry for both long guns and handguns.

In most States, all guns are cash and carry. California is the only State that cares about the C&R status of a firearm for cash and carry transfers between its residents.

loather
10-19-2009, 8:52 AM
In most States, all guns are cash and carry. California is the only State that cares about the C&R status of a firearm for cash and carry transfers between its residents.

Cash and carry as long as the NICS comes back OK :) Most of the time, though, it's instant. I've been in shops out-of-state with friends buying guns, who had to wait up to an hour for NICS to come back. Turns out his name is the same as someone who went and killed a bunch of people. *shrug*

striker3
10-19-2009, 9:05 AM
But we are talking about transactions between non dealers. In most states, it is cash and carry between individuals, no background checks.