Sheesh, the PRK taxes you every which way...

[esskay]

I just ordered a Dell LCD monitor, and there was a "State Environmental Fee" of $8 tacked on to it!!

[esskay]

I just ordered a Dell LCD monitor, and there was a "State Environmental Fee" of $8 tacked on to it!!

Yeah, I was in a hobby store yesterday. You now have to have a permit to launch model rockets. Sickening!

[forumguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 50_Shooter:
Yeah, I was in a hobby store yesterday. You now have to have a permit to launch model rockets. Sickening! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is that a state or local law?

[CraigC]

Taxes, regulations, all smothering <STRIKE>citizen</STRIKE> peasants and businesses alike.


Examples from the last few days:

Apparently you need to be 16 to buy a multi-tool. I was braving the trash at Walmart to get my cheap ammo, and decided to pick up a Gerber multitool. Alarms went off when the guy scanned the tool....

The old gentleman tending the counter says you need to be 18 to purchase BBs, slingshots, etc.

I did my taxes the other day. CA wants you to declare any items you bought on the internet so you can pay your "fair share" of sales taxes.

I'm not sure about the rockets, would have to look it up. Saw it posted at Hobby People off of Balboa & Burbank. They also have an age limit now on buying the rocket motors.

[bwiese]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Technical Ted:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by esskay:
I just ordered a Dell LCD monitor, and there was a "State Environmental Fee" of $8 tacked on to it!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
This started at the beginning of the year: CRT and LCD displays (TV or computer) sales are charged the fee. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm. I was just cruising thru Costco yesterday and their little sign said something about like this: "Enviromental disposal fee is for CRT monitors, TVs and projection TVs - at this time LCD monitors/TVs and plasma TVs are not included in this fee program."

To avoid this fee I'd buy a monitor from a dealer/distributor that has no offices in CA. (Dell, HP, etc. do). Totally aside from sales tax (vs. use tax) issue, they won't charge the CA 'enviro fee'.

Bill Wiese
San Jose

[Kruzr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">To avoid this fee I'd buy a monitor from a dealer/distributor that has no offices in CA. (Dell, HP, etc. do). Totally aside from sales tax (vs. use tax) issue, they won't charge the CA 'enviro fee'. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Unfortunately, Dell now charges Calif. Sales Tax on orders shipped to Calif. My new Dell for the office should arrive tomorrow. I ordered on-line and got hit for the $8 Env. fee for the LCD monitor and Calif. Sales Tax.

[Ford8N]

Don't forget:

Hunting license
Fishing license
Trapping license
USFS Adventure fee
DMV car registration
Smog certificate
Property tax
Non operation DMV fee (my favorite) http://www.calguns.net/banghead.gif
School bonds
Bonds for things I don't support or use
And tax money spent enforcing gun laws that do nothing to stop crime.

[qualityrockola]

Hmm, sounds like the state is double dipping here maybe?

By paying this fee up front, do you later NOT have to pay a fee when disposing of the monitor? I have a feeling that any place that you take it will end up charging you too. Such a waste i say, i dont think it is very well thought out.

[Technical Ted]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ford 8N:
Don't forget:... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't forget disposal fees for used oil and tires.

What are the taxes on each gallon of gas? IIRC about $0.34 cents?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ford 8N:

USFS Adventure fee
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The "Adventure Pass" is federal though, no?
On that note, I think that some of the fee areas are returning to non-fee status soon because of all the controversy. I know of at least one area in So. Cal. where this is true.
I steadfastly refuse to buy one of these things.

Anyway...
Before Al Gore invented the internet and before the information was so easy to come by, I called the CADOJ and asked if they could send me a paper copy of the Assault Weapons Identification Guide and gave them the appropriate publication number for it. Within a few days, I received, free of charge, my very own copy of this great piece of literary enlightenment.
For that fact, I can't honestly say that the state has never done me a favor nor ccan I say that my tax money hasn't come back to me tenfold. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif This, however, was back in '91, IIRC.

So what have they done for me lately?

http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Ford8N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The "Adventure Pass" is federal though, no?
On that note, I think that some of the fee areas are returning to non-fee status soon because of all the controversy. I know of at least one area in So. Cal. where this is true.
I steadfastly refuse to buy one of these things.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, it's Federal, BUT!, they are trying it out in Kalifornia USFS region first. http://www.calguns.net/banghead.gif

The cowards wouldn't try it out in Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, ect. I guess they figure that us sheep here are whipped enough and will take more "fee's" with out much whining. We're used to it. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif But I have heard that if you tell the Ranger that you are protesting the "fee" and are exersizing your right of free speech, you can beat the ticket. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[MrTenX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Basura Blanca:
So what have they done for me lately?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, they have raised the DROS "fee" nearly 30% and added a $1.00 Firearms Safety Testing "fee" and a $5.00 Safety and Enforcement "fee" whatever those are when buying a firearm. http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[redhead]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I did my taxes the other day. CA wants you to declare any items you bought on the internet so you can pay your "fair share" of sales taxes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Internet? You can shop on the internet? Why, who knew? http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[redhead]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hmm. I was just cruising thru Costco yesterday and their little sign said something about like this: "Enviromental disposal fee is for CRT monitors, TVs and projection TVs - at this time LCD monitors/TVs and plasma TVs are not included in this fee program." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


We just bought a small 20" CRT television from costco and the $8 was added on. I didn't notice until I walked out and was looking at my receipt. I'm wondering, though, when it comes time to junk the thing, if there will be another fee to get rid of it. Fees never end.

[ivanimal]

I would answer your question, but then I would have to charge you a fee.

[Turbinator]

You know, I really hate taxes. They tax your property, your purchases, your cars, your income, everything.. and when you die, they tax you again, assuming you haven't taken care of your assets via living trusts or somesuch!

CA is pretty bad, it seems. And now they want to enforce the use tax - which is virtually impossible to clearly enforce. What a place...

Turby

[Colonel Klink]

OK Hold on to your hats. I have learned about the last straw that CA has come up with. If someone decides to move out of the PRK and sells their house before moving they will be in for a shock when they get their check for the house sale.

There is a tax that no one will tell you about when you tell your real estate agent to sell the house and send the proceeds to your new address in Nevada. There is some amount, I think it is 1.5%, that you won't get because your new address is outside CA. If your new address is inside CA you are not charged this tax.

The fact that no one but me will tell you about it is what really makes me sick. Old people planning on retiring on the profit from their home sale getting screwed like this is too much!

[Turbinator]

Can you simply have the proceeds dumped into a bank account? Or have it forwarded to a friend or relative in CA, and avoid the tax? Maybe sell, but rent for 1 month in CA so that you can legally have a CA new address?

Turby

[Colonel Klink]

I didn't want to suggest anything that will get construded as illegal by anyone on this board. I know what I will be doing but don't want to send anyone astray.

I don't know who collects the tax. I would guess the escrow company. So act accordingly.

[Ford8N]

Did you notice this tax in the closing papers? This is the first I have heard of this. Because with the crazy prices here, 1.5% is a chunk of change.

[rkt88edmo]

How about a disposal tax for bicycles http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif


Buy A Bike In California, Pay A $7 Disposal Fee?

FEBRUARY 24, 2005 -- SACRAMENTO, CA (BRAIN)--Under a bill recently
introduced in California, anyone who buys a new bike should pay the
state $7 for the machine's eventual disposal. Assembly Bill No. 1103
would establish the Bicycle Recycling and Disposal Program.

Betty Karnette, a Democrat from Long Beach who introduced the bill,
would exempt used bicycle sales from the charge. The bill points out
that California has an escalating number of bicycles slated for
disposal. More 250,000 bicycles are disposed of in the state annually.
Fewer than 3,000 of them are recycled.

The scarcity of bicycle reuse, recycling and disposal centers, and the
charges imposed on consumers for landfilling used bicycles create
economic disincentives for recycling that could be addressed through a
recycling incentive program.

An additional $7 on a high-end road bike would not be significant, but
on $25 mass market bike it would add significantly to consumer cost and
potentially impact sales.

For more information on the bill contact Ravi Meta at Capitol Advocates
at (916) 449-3917.

[JAFGO]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">There is a tax that no one will tell you about when you tell your real estate agent to sell the house and send the proceeds to your new address in Nevada. There is some amount, I think it is 1.5%, that you won't get because your new address is outside CA. If your new address is inside CA you are not charged this tax. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I seem to remember reading something along those lines in the maze of paperwork required when I sold a home in the Bay Area some years back. As I remember it, the 1.5% (?) held back for an out-of-state move was refundable after a period of time. Seems like I remember it being held back until the state verified that all applicable taxes and fees due on the home sale were paid. So it's not a tax, more along the idea of refundable deposit.

But my move was not to another state but rather remaining in CA and I did not have to deal with this deposit situation.