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10-15-2009, 6:17 PM
As a kid my best friend and I use to run around in a granite pit with M1 Garands and ungodly amounts of 30-06 blanks (there was several wood crates of them) and play army. The only stipulation was, pick up your brass and put the rifles back in the garage when your done. Unfortunately the rifles belonged to my best friends father. Now I'm feeling a strong desire to own one. I've been looking at the Civilian Marksmanship Program to purchase one. My question is has anybody had experience with them. I'm looking at a service grade and expecting on doing a lot of work to it.

10-15-2009, 6:19 PM
I <3 my cmpenstein garand

10-15-2009, 6:24 PM
I've been looking at the Civilian Marksmanship Program to purchase one. My question is has anybody had experience with them.

Unqualified yes.

I'd bet that we have a few thousand CMP Garand and other rifle owners on CGN.

Poke around in the C&R Forum.

10-15-2009, 7:03 PM
They were brilliantly helpful, my service grade rifle is beautiful, I bought a can full of badoleered ammo and they shipped it ALL to my HOUSE!


My first real Garand (had a commercial Springfield one for a week back in the 90s)

Milsurp Collector
10-15-2009, 7:17 PM
The CMP is by far the best way to get a M1 Rifle or M1 Carbine. The only problem is that they have been swamped with orders since Nov. 2008 so wait time between order and delivery got to be several months. They have been working hard to get caught up so the wait time is now down to a couple of months.

If you want a M1 Carbine you should hurry because they expect to be sold out by the end of the year, with no more coming for awhile. They recently got in a shipment of M1 Rifle returns from the Greek Air Force that are in cherry condition, some apparently never issued. People are drooling waiting for those to become available.


Here is a Winchester carbine someone just got from the CMP (delivered to his door by FedEx)

Here are three Garands that someone just got delivered today, fresh out of their boxes, still covered with cosmoline. These are Service Grades, $595 each


More info at http://www.thecmp.org/ :)

10-15-2009, 7:50 PM
I highly recommend joining the CMP and purchasing a rifle from them. Not only do you have a chance at getting a wonderful piece of history at an unbeatable price, you help an organization that is working to preserve our shooting heritage. Sure the wait times can be long, but you can't beat having it shipped direct to your front door. :D

As a side note, add me to the list of people drooling over those newly returned garands. VERY nice looking. Just need to start saving now.

10-15-2009, 8:09 PM
CMP???? Garands....... hhhmm......:cool: :D

10-15-2009, 8:26 PM
By all means join a club affiliated with CMP and get your Garand. I have managed to get a M1 Garand, a M1 Carbine and a M1903A3. I will also probably get in line to get another Garand.

10-15-2009, 8:44 PM
BTW, the CRPA is a valid club for the CMP program. I sent them a xerox of my membership card

10-15-2009, 8:52 PM
Appleseed too. A weekend of shooting, improving your skills with a rifle, and you get a CMP certificate to boot!

10-15-2009, 9:00 PM
CMP???? Garands....... hhhmm......:cool: :D

Knew you'd pop up soon enough.... :D

10-15-2009, 10:59 PM
CMP has modified the requirements over the years to open more doors for more people. Many people are already qualified , it's just a question of putting the paperwork together.


10-16-2009, 6:13 AM
WOW now I'm excited. Thanks for the info.

10-16-2009, 6:32 AM

10-16-2009, 8:04 AM
not to threadjack but.......i have a question about the eligibility requirement to purchase from CMP. for the marksmanship or firearm related activity, i do not meet any of the qualifications and will have to take a class. can anyone recommend a class in the so cal area that i can take so i can fulfill the marksmanship requirement?

10-16-2009, 8:12 AM
not to threadjack but.......i have a question about the eligibility requirement to purchase from CMP. for the marksmanship or firearm related activity, i do not meet any of the qualifications and will have to take a class. can anyone recommend a class in the so cal area that i can take so i can fulfill the marksmanship requirement?


Read the requirements carefully. You don't need to go to a class. Just go to a shooting facility with a Range (Safety) Officer.

Note: The CMP has added a bunch of additional criteria that satisfies the "Marksmanship" activity requirement, so much so that they now call it the "Marksmanship or other Firearms Related Activity".

10-16-2009, 8:51 AM
Any more info on when those Greek's are coming? I want one.

10-16-2009, 10:02 AM
A DD214 is proof of shooting activity.
Currently serving military or law enforcement status covers Both shooting and club membership.
Most veterans organizations count as club membership.
Opening more doors for more people.
There is a lot of old , outdated info about CMP requirements floating around the error-net. In the past ( way back ) it was strictly an NRA bullseye shooters' program and only a few clubs counted as OK.

Not anymore. --- And some of the folks who were gatekeepers 10 or 15 years ago don't like the new ways.
I bumped into one in 2000 after my Army time was up. Secretary or Treasuer of a state association way up in the NorthEast. Took my money , cashed the check --- but never , ever sent me a membership card. I was " from away"-- not born there.... in their state -- 600 miles west & in the US ain't good enough.
I just joined GCA and since then I luv to spread the word about CMP.

This one's for you ,Taz-well of the Pinetree Asso c.......

10-16-2009, 10:03 AM

Great. Now I want to get rid of my ARs and get a half dozen more Garands...

10-16-2009, 10:08 AM
Absolutely do it. I purchased a Correct Grade Springfield when they were available early this year. I had to wait 90 days but boy was it worth it. It is a very beautiful rifle.

CMP is unbeatable.

10-16-2009, 10:11 AM
Check out the Western CMP games this weekend and next week just north of Phoenix. Starting tomorrow morning is a shooting clinic with matches starting in the afternoon. Rifle sales start around 4:00pm after the match where you get to pick out your rifle, they take the rifle back to Anniston, AL, you fill out the paperwork, mail it in and they will mail you the rifle.

I participated in two CMP games when they were at Camp Pendleton. It is an incredible experience. I picked out some incredible Garands and 1903's. The rifles (1903A3s, garands, 1917, and carbines) I have received in the mail "luck of the draw" have been incredible jewels, also.

Joining the CMP was the most dangerous thing I have ever done to my bank account.

10-16-2009, 11:45 AM
I just had my CMP order form notarized at lunch. Met requirements with a CRPA membership and my law enforcement father-in-law/shooting buddy signed off on the Marksmanship form. C&R is another easy way to get the Marksmanship Activity met. It's getting dropped in the mail tomorrow. Getting a Service Grade M1 Garand and Rack Grade M1 Carbine, my first centerfire rifles and milsurp. Hard part will be waiting, but I'll be getting into reloading so I actually have ammo for them.

10-16-2009, 12:51 PM
The three month wait is part of the fun. Just when you've forgotten about it, you come home from work and there is a Garand waiting for you!

10-16-2009, 1:32 PM
Haha, I sure never forgot about it during my wait. I have both a '52 Service Grade SA Garand and a '42 Rack Grade Inland Carbine. I'll sell all my other guns before these things go.

Here are some pics of my rifles. The Rack Grade carbine looks like it was refinished and thrown in storage. Metal looks great on both. Just the right amount of wear on the Garand. Another great thing about ordering from the CMP is cleaning the cosmoline off and really seeing what you got. You can refinish the wood, repark the metal if you so choose, etc. The lower grades will never be collector items so it's your choice on how far you want to 'refinish' it.

I took a pretty reserved approach. Cleaned off the cosmoline by boiling all the metal parts and applied oil, grease, etc. I used minwax furniture refinisher (http://www.minwax.com/products/specialty_products/antique_furniture_refinisher.html) to gently remove oil and cosmoline from the stock. This strips the oil but leaves the wood's patina intact. I then shined up the stocks with some Fairtrimmer's (http://www.fairtrimmers.com/).





Milsurp Collector
10-16-2009, 8:02 PM
My CMP rifles (left to right):

Springfield Armory M1903, Winchester M1 Rifle, Harrington & Richardson M1 Rifle, Winchester M1 Carbine, IBM M1 Carbine.