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Gun_Fanatic
10-14-2009, 9:16 AM
If I get a mag lock on a saiga can use I thirty round magazines with it? And if I modify it, can I still use the high cap magazines with the mag lock?

CSACANNONEER
10-14-2009, 9:18 AM
NO!!!!!!!NO!!!!!!NO!!!!!

Any center fire rifle with a fixed magazine capable of containing more than ten rounds of ammo is an AW by definition. DO NOT even think of doing this!

Now, if you want to use +10 round mags in your stock Saiga, you'll need to comply with 922(r) (a Federal law) and replace a few foreign made parts. But, other than that, there is no California law prohibiting the use of +10 round mags in a stock Saiga. If you modify it by adding a PG or other "evil" feature" then, you would need to use a mag lock and be limited to 10 round mags.

tgriffin
10-14-2009, 9:19 AM
No, any fixed mag rifle or shotgun is limited to 10 rounds.

Gun_Fanatic
10-14-2009, 10:53 AM
of course, cause those mags do look the best

Sunshine
10-14-2009, 11:44 AM
and they had better be preban mags on top of that...

lorax3
10-14-2009, 12:00 PM
No, any fixed mag rifle or shotgun is limited to 10 rounds.

Incorrect. The fixed mag limitation only applies to semi-automatic centerfire rifles and semi-automatic pistols. Not to shotguns.

If in theory you could run a fixed mag S-12 with a 30rd magazine and it would not be an AW. You would just need to own the magazines prior to 2000 which is the issue.

I am not advocating anything illegal, but if you acquired the magazines post 2000 but prior to 2006 there isn't much that can be done about it now due to the statue of limitations.

12276.1. PC (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall
also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine
with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length
of less than 30 inches.
(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a
detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor,
forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon
without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the
barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location
outside of the pistol grip.
(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

stix213
10-14-2009, 12:02 PM
Fixed mag center fire rifle with high caps = Illegal assault weapon

no matter what pretty much

Gun_Fanatic
10-14-2009, 12:37 PM
that's no fun but hell that's why this state sucks for guns.

WeekendWarrior
10-14-2009, 2:22 PM
WWRTW