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510dat
10-12-2009, 12:33 PM
The more I talk to people, the more I realize that most people here in Ca are NOT anti, they're just ignorant and completely unexposed to firearms. There are a handful of really loud people who rabidly fear anything that goes "boom", but most people only have a vague sense that "oh yeah, sometimes bad people do bad things with guns."

As things stand, people have "Guns are bad" pounded into their heads left, right and center, and that's all they ever hear from the media. There's no counter-balance.

I suggest that in order to effectively reach out to the greatest number of people for the least cost, that CGA arrange for airtime on radio, where we can spread our message in a way that we can control.

I'm not talking about riding on (R) talk shows like Michael Savage, because that isn't the audience we need to contact; they're already on our side. We need to get a hold of moderate Democrats (who are the overwhelming majority of CA) who are willing to listen and maybe change their opinion. There are tons of fiscally conservative Democrats who just can't stomach the religious right that the CA Republican party insists on; these are the kinds of people we could easily convert, or at least turn neutral.

We need to use this media to persuade people that even if they don't like guns, these laws can be used to infringe on their rights too.

If we had a regular 30 minute or 45 minute segment called "The Third Voice" or some such, where people like Atherd, Oaklander, H. Paul Payne can just chat with people, explain our side, and expose the extremes of the other side, I think we could make a lot of progress with regular Californians.

Thoughts?

Gator Monroe
10-12-2009, 12:35 PM
Friggen Genius +1 (We could have a Hannity Vs. Colmes kinda segment with a Conservative Shooter & Liberal Shooter POV being hashed out .

wildhawker
10-12-2009, 12:36 PM
There are lots of low-hanging fruit in outreach; this probably isn't going to be one of them.

Bud Fox
10-12-2009, 12:39 PM
Use http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/main.jsp?pushNav=1&cmd=home it's free, I believe all you need is a headset.

Kestryll
10-12-2009, 12:41 PM
In concept, interesting idea.

However when you look at the cost in time, effort and money to buy air time, set up and maintain even a short show and the need to keep it going every day with a volunteer staff (which if you don't keep it up makes us look bad on a larger scale) those resources are better served elsewhere.

Gator Monroe
10-12-2009, 12:44 PM
In concept, interesting idea.

However when you look at the cost in time, effort and money to buy air time, set up and maintain even a short show and the need to keep it going every day with a volunteer staff (which if you don't keep it up makes us look bad on a larger scale) those resources are better served elsewhere.

It should be so novel that it's gets syndication straight away.

510dat
10-12-2009, 12:45 PM
How hard would it be to get 15/20 minutes regularly- like once a week - on an existing show?

I sure that there's loads of college radio stations desperate for programming better than a stuttering freshman.

Bud Fox
10-12-2009, 12:51 PM
How hard would it be to get 15/20 minutes regularly- like once a week - on an existing show?

I sure that there's loads of college radio stations desperate for programming better than a stuttering freshman.


Someone should contact RBN, I'll bet they'd give you guys air time,and they've got a few million listeners I beleive.

bodger
10-12-2009, 2:43 PM
Something else for the MSM to denounce. The "Gun Nut Channel" :D

artherd
10-12-2009, 4:16 PM
I can't comment on upcoming CGN projects.

However it's no secret that I just took a Directorial position at CGN.

And it's also no secret that I do know some people very high up in Turner-Time Warner.

Just sain' :) (it won't quite look like what you're talking about.)

bodger
10-12-2009, 4:33 PM
I can't comment on upcoming CGN projects.

However it's no secret that I just took a Directorial position at CGN.

And it's also no secret that I do know some people very high up in Turner-Time Warner.

Just sain' :) (it won't quite look like what you're talking about.)


For somebody who can't comment, you just said a lot! :D:D:D

gazzavc
10-12-2009, 4:37 PM
If we ever do manage to get a radio spot, I will be happy to volunteer my time to be a spokesman. I've done short clips on firearms for the history channel , the discovery channel and some lesser bits, so radio is a snap.

Besides I have an accent like the Geico Geccko.

Gary

Biff...
10-12-2009, 4:41 PM
Love the idea, I use to run a board in college and would be more than willing to volunteer.

Vectrexer
10-12-2009, 4:47 PM
Prior to radio,, which I think is a great idea, could we start small?

Something like a quality produce internet radio program. Easy testing ground before hitting RF.

A show in short segments like those given at a CG booth interpersonal Q&A might be well received. Yeah, sure, we have it in the Flow chart and in test hear on the board. But a in a link or an audio stream would allow for ears-only experience.

It could also be posted on on other outlets when done.

Small easy chunks that are easier to produce and, easy to digest.


Who would be the "Voice of CG Radio"?

.

ripcurlksm
10-12-2009, 5:06 PM
As a low cost entry to radio, I have setup a few different options for internet radio.

Option #1: Record privately your radio show in a quiet room with decent microphones and podcast it or RSS it. (Involves: 2 mic's, small mixing board & computer)

Option #2: Record your show similar to #1, but you also take callers to ask questons to the show and broadcast it through the Internet live at a given time each week/month. You would also podcast/RSS it afterwards. (Involves: 2 mic's, small/med mixing board, hybrid call center, & computer)

I started/assembled/engineered the "In The Lineup" radio show for SURFER magazine, and if any of these two options are appealing I would be happy to advise. We've had playboy models and spider monkeys on the show along with big-wave surfer Laird Hamilton, calling into the show from his boat on a satelite phone in between surfing at Peahi (http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/peahi-maui-dustin-k-ryan.jpg).

JTecalo
10-12-2009, 5:16 PM
I don't know why I didn't think of it before...just linked CGN on my website.

my site is very small and not viewed a lot, but every little bit helps.

http://www.ate-tech.com/links.htm

Can'thavenuthingood
10-12-2009, 5:26 PM
Been a few times in various threads, I think start small with getting a camera crew and equipment together for practice and experimentation.
Another crew for researching and writing and rewriting.

Hold some auditions for the spokesperson.

Everyone put something together in a uTube type scenario and see what looks and works best.

Maybe a competition?

Podcasting here. (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=179833&highlight=podcasting)

uTube thread here (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=223938).

Librarian had one going here (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=141665) awhile back.

Another thread here. (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=206372&highlight=calguns+radio)
According to this Poll (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=141347) only about 10% of Calgunners personnaly donate to NPR, we all do through taxes.
Here (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=212267&highlight=calguns+radio&page=4)is some NPR info, we pay for them, why not try to use it under some forgotten law that says its for public use?

About 16% of NPR's funding comes from public money, your taxes, from Federal, state and local revenues. The rest comes from donations from Corporations, Foundations (http://www.npr.org/about/place/corpsupport/foundationsupport.html) and individual donors. A list of Gov & Foundation donors is here (http://www.npr.org/about/donors/foundationandgov.html).

Find an NPR station here (http://www.npr.org/stations/)
I posted 29 of them and certain there are more, California is well covered.

San Francisco area

KQED-FM: 88.5more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
KQED Public Radio for Northern California
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KCSM-FM: 91.1more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
The Bay Area's Jazz Station
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KALW-FM: 91.7more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
Your Local Public Radio Station

Los Angeles area

KPCC-FM: 89.3more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
Southern California Public Radio
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KCRW-FM: 89.9more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
Alternative Music, NPR News

KUSC-FM: 91.5more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
Classical Public Radio
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KVCR-FM: 91.9more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
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Sacramento area

KXPR-FM: 88.9more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
The Classical Station
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KQEI-FM: 89.3more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
KQED Public Radio. Spend Quality Time with Your Radio.
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KXJZ-FM: 90.9more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
The NPR Station
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San Diego area

KSDS-FM: 88.3more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
Jazz 88 - Committed to the Arts in San Diego

KPBS-FM: 89.5more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
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Palm Springs area
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Classical Public Radio
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KCRI-FM: 89.3more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
Alternative Music, NPR News
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KPCV-FM: 90.3more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)

KCRW-FM: 90.9more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
Alternative Music, NPR News

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Redding area (http://www.npr.org/templates/community/group.php?slPage=overview&slGroupKey=270)
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Public Radio for Southern Oregon & Northern California

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KMJC-AM: 620more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
News & Information Service of Jefferson Public Radio

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Bakersfield area

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San Bernadino area

KUOR-FM: 89.1more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)

KUSC-FM: 91.5more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
Classical Public Radio
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KVCR-FM: 91.9 more info (http://www.npr.org/stations/#)
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Fresno area
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I think with a concerted effort we ought to be able to infiltrate and change or contribute some of NPR's content.
If we say nothing and do nothing then apparently we are okay with the content provided.

Why not call, write or FAX the Producers of those stations? Better yet, go visit them and present a better idea for programming.

Its easy to be a defeatist and accept the way things are because that's the way its always been. Takes quite a bit of work to change things that have been firmly entrenched by years of acceptance.
Coupled with the current Town Hall demonstrations, Health Care protests and TEA parties, your protesting of programming might be seen as an attack on another front.

This site (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Thinkmap%20SDK%202.5%20Standard%20Edition/webapp/TM-1VER/index.asp?keyword=Ford%20Foundation) is a neat little gizmo in that it connects all the players. You can see Soros contributes to PBS which contributes to NPR. Same with all the other heads you can click on to find out where they lead to or from whence they came.

Vick

gazzavc
10-12-2009, 5:35 PM
Who would be the "Voice of CG Radio"?

.

I'll do it.

And I have a good speaking voice to boot.

Gary

BigDogatPlay
10-12-2009, 5:44 PM
I'd be happy to donate voice talent in whatever form an initiative might take. I've already cut my demo reel and I'm in the process of launching a side career doing voice over.

jmlivingston
10-12-2009, 6:40 PM
Isn't the CRPA already involved in something like this?

radioman
10-12-2009, 8:10 PM
Gene is in red wood city, maybe he could get on the ron owens show or gene burns on kgo 810 San Francisco

fullrearview
10-12-2009, 9:33 PM
I'll do it.

And I have a good speaking voice to boot.

Gary

And a face for radio!:p