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AM9000
10-12-2009, 11:42 AM
Anyone interested in one of these? :eek:
Could be old news to some, but I hadn't seen it....

Full article over at http://www.thefirearmsblog.com (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/21/dsei-09-new-design-hk416-sub-carbine/)

http://www.the9000.com/imgexport.asp?imgid={9F5C6A8C-028A-4E1D-A0BC-6BB6178E111B}

The Director
10-12-2009, 11:55 AM
Sweet. You could actually get pretty close to that with an AR pistol, minus the stock and foregrip - and semi auto.

HKDoc
10-12-2009, 12:09 PM
Just curious, buffer tube doesn't look long enough for the bolt? I wonder how they get that to work....

tiger222
10-12-2009, 12:14 PM
Another healthy does of pure unobtainium.... :(

Though with all their R&D budget, you'd think they would come up with a better stock cheek weld then two poles!

JoeC
10-12-2009, 12:18 PM
Man that looks pretty sweet. I've always been a fan of the HK 416.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hk416c_02-tfb.jpg

It looks like the bolt will fit. That's one short tight spring though.

Gio
10-12-2009, 12:21 PM
It is a GPU and I am guessing that H&K designed it to work similar to Sig's GPU Design. I vote for no buffer tube hanging out the rear ;)

Not an H&K Specialist so don;t hold me to it :D

-Gio

fliparch
10-12-2009, 12:39 PM
I'll pass. I'd rather get the PSD from LWRC. It doesn't have tubes hanging off the sides of the lower receiver to break.

Is it me or the stock arms look a bit flimsy?

JoeC
10-12-2009, 12:43 PM
I've always wondered about the stability and long term reliability of HK's one bolt retaining system for their rail.

I guess it's not a problem cause some serious guys use the gun and I've heard no complaints.

I'm just thinking that with a lot of use or weight on the front rail that it'll eventually have a little give left and right maybe.

Stork
10-12-2009, 1:59 PM
Looks like a fun gun but that stock would prevent me from buying it.

pacrimguru
10-12-2009, 2:07 PM
i want.

Jpach
10-12-2009, 2:10 PM
It would be cool to have one of those. However it would be cooler to have the Knights Armament PDW. Now that thing is ****ing awesome

AM9000
10-12-2009, 2:33 PM
+1 on the pdw

reidnez
10-12-2009, 4:23 PM
For $800 I'd buy it. But being as it's an HK, it will cost twice that.

Q
10-12-2009, 5:10 PM
Try X 4. :D

I like the stock. Looks like a sig with that FH.

B Strong
10-12-2009, 5:38 PM
I'm competely over the short AR/16 thing - they look cool, but you give up so much ballisticlly that you hit the point of much diminished returns.

I'll not volunteer to stand in front of one and hold the target, but I'd go with the M4 envelope over the super sort versions any time if I was given a choice.

Haplo
10-12-2009, 6:29 PM
I'm competely over the short AR/16 thing - they look cool, but you give up so much ballisticlly that you hit the point of much diminished returns.

I'll not volunteer to stand in front of one and hold the target, but I'd go with the M4 envelope over the super sort versions any time if I was given a choice.

It would be much better if chambered in something like 6.8, which is still very effective out of a short barrel.

Quiet
10-12-2009, 7:05 PM
I like Colt's compact folding stock design for their subcompact gas-piston carbine better than what's on the H&K.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ausa-colt-defense-scw-5-large.jpg

joelukehart
10-13-2009, 1:24 AM
The upper is cool but the butt stock looks cobbled together. I don't care if it has the H&K name on it. I would rather have a Para-USA AR with the side folder.