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leitung
10-11-2009, 9:18 PM
These firearms related bills were signed by the Governor, what do they mean for us? I know they are minor but it's good to know..

WileyWilly
10-11-2009, 9:53 PM
SB175 and 449 were signed as of this release http://gov.ca.gov/press-release/13564/
Don't know about AB1363-it's not on there yet
WW

unusedusername
10-11-2009, 10:00 PM
SB 175: http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_0151-0200/sb_175_cfa_20090622_101019_asm_comm.html

SUMMARY : Clarifies that delivery of a firearm, as specified, to
a gunsmith for service or repair is exempt from the Federal
Firearms (FFL) licensing verification requirements, as
specified. Specifically, this bill :

1)Exempts transfers of firearms where the transferor and the
transferee are the same person or corporation from the FFL
licensing verification requirements, as specified.

2)Exempts transfers of firearms to or from a person who has a
valid entertainment firearms permit and the transfer involves
the loan or return of firearms used solely as props in
television, film, or theatrical productions from the FFL
licensing verification requirements, as specified.

3)Removes persons identifying themselves as federally licensed
pawnbrokers from those required to be included in the
centralized list, and exempts persons possessing specified
permits who are on the centralized list from the fee
assessment.

4)Makes various other technical, non-substantive changes and
corrections.


Not too sure about this one.

SB 449: http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_0401-0450/sb_449_cfa_20090413_105404_sen_comm.html

The purpose of this bill is to (1) remove the requirement that
secondhand dealers report acquisition of firearms to local law
enforcement on a daily basis and instead require that reporting
go directly to the Department of Justice (DOJ); and (2)
authorize DOJ to retain those records for the purpose of
determining whether the firearm had been reported lost or stolen
and then applying existing law regarding retention of those
records.



Looks like a good thing :thumbsup:

AB 1363 http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_1351-1400/ab_1363_cfa_20090630_111123_sen_floor.html


DIGEST : This bill clarifies that any licenses issued, as
specified, by a sheriff or police chief in a jurisdiction
with a population under 200,000, to openly carry a loaded
handgun, are valid only within the county in which they are
issued.


Looks irrelevant as I've never heard of a LOC license...

caoboy
10-11-2009, 10:01 PM
SB 175 seems to be rewording of the penal code, and 449 seems to make it necessary for secondhand dealers (pawn shops?) notify the DOJ of receiving a firearm? It seems 449 is rewording and removing the 'except firearms' so they will have to notify the DOJ?

Once A Marine
10-11-2009, 10:10 PM
AB 1363 http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_1351-1400/ab_1363_cfa_20090630_111123_sen_floor.html
Looks irrelevant as I've never heard of a LOC license...

LOC is for armed security guards, I believe.

ke6guj
10-11-2009, 10:19 PM
AB 1363 http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_1351-1400/ab_1363_cfa_20090630_111123_sen_floor.html



Looks irrelevant as I've never heard of a LOC license...

LOC licenses can be issued to the public in counties that have less than 200,000 people. What it appears is that people were getting LOC licenses in one county and then LOC'ing elsewhere. For example, it wasn't clear if a person with a LOC license from Alpine county could legally LOC in Los Angeles county. This bill clarifies that the LOC license issued in Alpine county would only be good in Alpine county.

leitung
10-11-2009, 10:34 PM
LOC is for armed security guards, I believe.

No armed security guards are covered under a different exemption to 12031