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Shotgun Man
10-11-2009, 11:53 AM
I was listening to NPR earlier this week, and they did story on a gay right's march on DC and how a lot of people in the gay community think that this is a waste of time.

I was suprised when I heard Barney Frank refer to the NRA as a "militant" organization. I guess he meant it as a compliment, but it strikes me as a perjorative word. Maybe not.

Listen at 2:45, or read the article:


"The most successful, militant, political organization in America is the NRA," he says. "And they've never had a march, they've never had a shoot-in — they don't do anything other than lobby members. They write, and they call, and they talk to members."


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113634899

Still, he did pay them a compliment. He forgot to mention their court efforts. The NRA should use this in membership drives.

lomalinda
10-11-2009, 12:10 PM
I wonder how he'd describe a bunch of guys walking down the street engaging in sexual activity under the guise of a "pride parade?"

Not bashing gays at all, just pointing out that "his side" has been engaged in some pretty pushy, in-yer-face stuff, too.

bwiese
10-11-2009, 12:12 PM
That's actually a fair description.

And coming from Barney in Taxachussetts, we can take that as a fair compliment and tribute to our effectiveness.

"Militancy" in political context like this does not refer to use of force/violence... it is in the context of coordination,
organization, unity of belief, and stridency.

Wikipedia has it pretty good:


Militant can mean "vigorously active (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_lifestyle) and aggressive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggression), especially in
support of a cause" as in 'militant reformers'. The American Heritage
Dictionary of the English Language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Heritage_Dictionary_of_the_English_La nguage) defines militant as "Having a
combative character; aggressive, especially in the service of a cause".

The Merriam-Webster Dictionary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merriam-Webster_Dictionary) defines militant as "aggressively active
(as in a cause)".[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militant#cite_note-Merriam-Webster-2) It says that the word militant might be typically be
used in phrases such as 'militant conservationists' or 'a militant attitude.'

An example of the adjective usages is demonstrated when the The (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times)
New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times) ran an article titled Militant Environmentalists Planning
Summer Protests to Save Redwoods describing a group that believes in
"confrontational demonstrations" and "nonviolent tactics" to get across
their message of preserving the environment.Another usage example
includes 'a militant political activist', drawing attention to behaviours
typical of those engaged in intensive political activism. The political
protests headed by the Reverend Al Sharpton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton) have been described
as militant in nature in The Washington Post (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post).

7x57
10-11-2009, 12:21 PM
And he can thank his co-ideologists behind the GCA for that militancy.


...when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object...


7x57

forgiven
10-11-2009, 5:15 PM
I :censored: can't stand Elmer Fudd.

CessnaDriver
10-11-2009, 5:23 PM
Frank should be behind bars.

G-Man WC
10-11-2009, 5:26 PM
Smell's like poop. barney must be near! -g

CalNRA
10-11-2009, 5:27 PM
Barney Frank should go one step further and say NRA members are members of a well regulated militia, and the requirement for membership is to be an American citizen.

SkatinJJ
10-11-2009, 5:54 PM
As Cali has put up Ms. Pelosi, Mass has put up Frank.

Something about the coasts? No just pockets of liberals who think that the constitution is a passe doc that needs to be excused from play unless it benefits them.

Take care,

JJ

wellerjohn
10-11-2009, 6:04 PM
As Cali has put up Ms. Pelosi, Mass has put up Frank.

Something about the coasts? No just pockets of liberals who think that the constitution is a passe doc that needs to be excused from play unless it benefits them.

Take care,

JJ

Sea water must cause mental illness!:eek:

hoffmang
10-11-2009, 6:18 PM
I do want people to remember this thread when you hear from CA NRA, Bill, or me that we really shouldn't hold some sort of protest in Sac but instead should call or meet with out legislators.

Protests get ignored and can be spun against you. A calendar full of well spoke constituent gun owners isn't soon forgotten by a representative.

-Gene

Nxd9ar15xcrL
10-11-2009, 6:23 PM
Remind me again what the purpose of listening to NPR is?

yellowfin
10-11-2009, 6:34 PM
^ You've gotta know what's being said to know what to say and do about it.

Blackhawk556
10-11-2009, 6:58 PM
I do want people to remember this thread when you hear from CA NRA, Bill, or me that we really shouldn't hold some sort of protest in Sac but instead should call or meet with out our legislators.

Protests get ignored and can be spun against you. A calendar full of well spoke constituent gun owners isn't soon forgotten by a representative.

-Gene

fixed it ;)

hoffmang
10-11-2009, 6:59 PM
fixed it ;)

Now that was an ironic typo...

-Gene

lineman66
10-11-2009, 8:32 PM
So... I may have misinterpreted what Mr. Frank said, but isn't he actually saying that the NRA does a great job of lobbying for the 2A cause without having resorted to violent/outrageous means, and that other groups could learn from their example?

Certainly a lot worse could've been (and have been) said about gun ownership, 2A rights and the NRA.

IMHO, NPR does a good job at international coverage, yes they tend to lean to the left, but they also find stories that most news outlets do not/will not cover. I also like the concept of "Public Radio" (not necessarily just NPR, but the idea of a community-sponsored news source)

Just my 0.02

Ron-Solo
10-11-2009, 8:50 PM
Remind me again what the purpose of listening to NPR is?

Intel........gotta know what the enemy is thinking & planning

advocatusdiaboli
10-11-2009, 8:56 PM
I have no grudge against people who practice their own peculiar habits in private amongst like-minded adults--if they keep to themselves they are hurting no one. So I don't care about Mr. Frank's lean though I don't understand it and if that's as far as it goes--I figure live and let live.

But when he moves over into things that I care about, I have to oppose him, not because of his persuasion, but because of his intruding in things I care about and I believe fundamental to this nation's freedom.

Mr. Frank supports some things I endorse as well as some things I do not. This is not new--the Founders had similar differences of opinion--they all had their spats with each other. The key issue and one I want to figure out with Frank is whether we can work together or be at odds on the things that matter like 2A. He's from New England for Christ's sakes, I'd think he'd understand 2A better than most given that colony's history.