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289mustang
10-07-2009, 4:43 PM
I was wondering what color and type sling was used on the M16's in Vietnam?
I also wanted to know if the trap door buttstocks were used more than the non-trap door buttstocks.

technique
10-07-2009, 4:57 PM
Gator? Finally some actually asks about a retro and he's not even around to answer it......

Vinz
10-07-2009, 4:58 PM
LOL....

yep, nothing to add just LOL
vinz

armygunsmith
10-07-2009, 5:03 PM
The A1 buttstocks didn't have trap doors. I believe the slings were OD green.

Gator Monroe
10-07-2009, 5:21 PM
The E series (early trap door A1 stock was the most common version found on M16A1's (603) AFTER 1968, and the Nylon "seat belt" material USGI M14/M1 sling (usuially a dark olive almost brown color) were the most common sling in the same time frame.

Gator Monroe
10-07-2009, 5:23 PM
The A1 buttstocks didn't have trap doors. I believe the slings were OD green.

The SP1 & XM16E1 and early Air Force M16's had solid Butt Stocks ,The M16A1 (603) was in most cases equiped with Trap Door stocks after 1968 ...

superhondaz50
10-07-2009, 5:27 PM
http://www.retroblackrifle.com/

Gator Monroe
10-07-2009, 5:30 PM
Hang out in the Retro AR/M16 section of ar15.com ...:chris:

X-NewYawker
10-07-2009, 6:17 PM
When I bought my civilian Colt AR-15 in 1979, I don't remember it having a forward assist -- I remember when that was an added feature in later models. Does that sound correct?

redcliff
10-07-2009, 6:26 PM
Sp1's came with trap door buttstocks (at least mine did in 1975) and no forward assist.

mls343
10-07-2009, 7:25 PM
Yup, my first AR had a SN that was under 1000 (6XX). No forward assist, chrome bolt and leaf catcher front end. Slings were OD green.

Gator Monroe
10-07-2009, 7:32 PM
You can get info on ANY build (601) (603) (XM177E2) (607) ... and find correct configuration and accessories ideas at the links provided earlier in this thread.

Gator Monroe
10-07-2009, 7:41 PM
Sp1's came with trap door buttstocks (at least mine did in 1975) and no forward assist.

But would a 1967 SP1 have a trap door buttstock (dont think so):cool:

NRAhighpowershooter
10-07-2009, 8:01 PM
I built a killer looking 602 a few months ago using a NoDak Spud lower FN upper and retro pins and parts from the vendor that NoDak reccomends on their site.. I'll have to post pics when I get around to taking them...:o I even went with the early small charging handle...oppsss.. here's 3 teaser pics I DID take back when I finished the build..
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/highpowershooter/AR%20OLL%20Builds/RetoAR002.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/highpowershooter/AR%20OLL%20Builds/RetoAR005.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/highpowershooter/AR%20OLL%20Builds/RetoAR001.jpg

tiger222
10-07-2009, 8:02 PM
But would a 1967 SP1 have a trap door buttstock (dont think so):cool:

a civie SP1 of 1967 vintage should have a solid stock, colt never installed a trapdoor buttstock until the R6400 on with the advent of the A2 stock. but the army M16A1's of 1967 should have trap doors. also note from the pics that alot of guys who attended "club nam" and weren't rimf pogues never used slings and they taped the front sling swivels down for less noise. the green cotton M14 slings are really noisey!

note the later black nylon "silent sling" of 80's fame.

also if you look at the pics from that time when the M16 was at it's worst, lots of the rifles also had their handguards taped up and a cleaning rod taped to the gun.

tomd1584
10-07-2009, 8:05 PM
^ thats a nice looking rifle.

Gator Monroe
10-07-2009, 8:08 PM
I love my (603) Only AR type rifle I want (For Now).

redcliff
10-07-2009, 10:47 PM
a civie SP1 of 1967 vintage should have a solid stock, colt never installed a trapdoor buttstock until the R6400 on with the advent of the A2 stock.


While I agree that a 1967 SP1 would not have a trapdoor buttstock, I disagree that they didnt show up until the R6400. I was the original purchaser of my Colt AR15 model SP1 back in 1975 ($379.00) and I"m holding the original trapdoor buttstock in my hand. It came with a bird-cage flash hider.

My cousin has an older SP1 with the 3 prong flash hider and his stock didn't have a trapdoor.

socomIInato
10-07-2009, 11:49 PM
When I bought my civilian Colt AR-15 in 1979, I don't remember it having a forward assist -- I remember when that was an added feature in later models. Does that sound correct?

yes,civilian colt A1 and early car15 no forward assist. just like my colt car15