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bwiese
10-06-2009, 5:12 PM
If you can spare the change, overnight FedEx/DHL/USPS letters to Gov can help. 3 days to the 11th.

Letters in Big Envelopes take up space and may get attention, who knows?

Faxing and calling branch offices may be helpful too!


Main address:
The Honorable Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor
State of California
State Capitol, First Floor
Sacramento, CA 95814
Ph. 916-445-2841
Fax 916-558-3160 (fax # updated 9/18/09)

District Offices:

Fresno Office
2550 Mariposa Mall #3013
Fresno, CA 93721
Phone: 559-477-1804
Fax: 559-445-5328

Los Angeles Office
300 South Spring Street
Suite 16701
Los Angeles, CA 90013
Phone: 213-897-0322
Fax: 213-897-0319

Riverside Office
3737 Main Street #201
Riverside, CA 92501
Phone: 951-680-6860
Fax: 951-680-6863

San Diego Office
1350 Front Street
Suite 6054
San Diego, CA 92101
Phone: 619-525-4641
Fax: 619-525-4640

San Francisco Office
455 Golden Gate Avenue
Suite 14000
San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone: 415-703-2218
Fax: 415-703-2803

Washington D.C. Office
134 Hall of the States
444 North Capitol Street NW
Washington D.C. 20001
Phone: 202-624-5270
Fax: 202-624-5280

PolishMike
10-06-2009, 5:13 PM
Apparently its too late.

JBird33
10-06-2009, 5:13 PM
Seems all of our efforts are for nothing, Bill. There is another thread going stating that at 5PM Arnold signed the damned thing.

bwiese
10-06-2009, 5:16 PM
Seems all of our efforts are for nothing, Bill. There is another thread going stating that at 5PM Arnold signed the damned thing.

Not necessarily true. Let's not work from one report with a possibly confused reporter.

The CalNRA.com webpage has not been updated, and it's very responsive.

PolishMike
10-06-2009, 5:21 PM
Not necessarily true. Let's not work from one report with a possibly confused reporter.

The CalNRA.com webpage has not been updated, and it's very responsive.


Very responsive? Their last update is listed as 9/18/09

bwiese
10-06-2009, 5:24 PM
Very responsive? Their last update is listed as 9/18/09

That's the last official update based on any necessary action/news. When a breaking event occurs it will be listed.

bwiese
10-06-2009, 7:09 PM
Keep calling, writing, faxing, emailing. The battle still rages on!

Redchevyman
10-06-2009, 7:11 PM
What was this letter off of the state web site?


To the Members of the California State Assembly:
I am returning Assembly Bill 996 without my signature.
This bill is unnecessary because there has been no documentation of a problem with the
theft of ammunition from retail establishments. In addition, I have just signed SB 48 by
Senator Scott into law which will ensure those underage will no longer be purchasing
ammunition.
Requiring retail ammunition sellers to store any handgun ammunition offered for sale in a
manner inaccessible to the purchaser would impose more regulation in California without
a corresponding benefit to public safety. It is not clear how requiring store employees to
obtain and hand customers ammunition instead of letting customers choose their own
ammunition will curb crimes committed with firearms.
For these reasons I am unable to sign this bill.
Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger

bulgron
10-06-2009, 7:38 PM
What was this letter off of the state web site?


To the Members of the California State Assembly:
I am returning Assembly Bill 996 without my signature.
This bill is unnecessary because there has been no documentation of a problem with the
theft of ammunition from retail establishments. In addition, I have just signed SB 48 by
Senator Scott into law which will ensure those underage will no longer be purchasing
ammunition.
Requiring retail ammunition sellers to store any handgun ammunition offered for sale in a
manner inaccessible to the purchaser would impose more regulation in California without
a corresponding benefit to public safety. It is not clear how requiring store employees to
obtain and hand customers ammunition instead of letting customers choose their own
ammunition will curb crimes committed with firearms.
For these reasons I am unable to sign this bill.
Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger

Link?

pnkssbtz
10-06-2009, 7:41 PM
I couldn't find the bill searching for it here:

http://gov.ca.gov/bills/#search

So he must not have signed it yet.


*EDIT*
The GoC website says AB996 (different bill?) was vetoed by the gov...

http://www.gunownersca.com/leg/display/?id=14

unusedusername
10-06-2009, 7:47 PM
Edit: Found link... http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0951-1000/ab_962_cfa_20090706_155139_sen_comm.html

Here is the full text:

4. Regulation of Internet Sales of Ammunition

In 2007, the Legislature approved legislation to address the
problem of Internet sales of ammunition to minors by requiring
third parties (e.g., common carriers) to obtain verification of
the buyer's age. (AB 2714 (Torrico).) Governor Schwarzenegger
vetoed that bill and in his veto message stated the following:

It is important to ensure that minors do not use
mail-order or internet sales to obtain access to items
prohibited under current law that could be dangerous
if used improperly. However, current law already
requires sellers to verify the age of a purchaser who
wishes to buy ammunition at the time of sale. By
adding a new requirement that retailers ensure third
party verification of the identity of the purchaser at
time of delivery, this bill could inadvertently
subject legitimate retailers to criminal penalties for
actions that they have no control over. As a result,
this bill could be counter productive by providing a
negligible benefit to public safety while concurrently
discouraging legitimate business.

In addition, this bill would allow local governments
to enact their own measures governing the sale of
ammunition if they are stricter than state law.
Statewide uniformity of the laws regulating firearms
is critical to public safety. By allowing local
governments to proliferate local measures regarding
the sale of ammunition that significantly differ from
state law, this bill could result in inconsistent
regulation, interpretation, and enforcement of
firearms laws by businesses, law enforcement, and the
public.

For these reasons, I am returning this bill without my
signature.


It is on the 962 status page but its talking about an old bill.