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Gigan
10-01-2009, 10:13 PM
Could someone explain the differences between the two to me? Any advantages or disadvantages to one or the other? Thanks.

69Mach1
10-01-2009, 10:13 PM
AK 47 = 7.62x39 caliber
AK 74 = 5.45x39 caliber

AK 47 = serious hitting power
AK 74 = better accuracy

818gtiguy
10-01-2009, 10:17 PM
What he said..

supermario
10-01-2009, 10:21 PM
AK 47 = 7.62x39 caliber
AK 74 = 5.45x39 caliber

AK 47 = serious hitting power
AK 74 = better accuracy



Just curious, but aren't there AK74 Krinks in 7.62x39 caliber?

69Mach1
10-01-2009, 10:31 PM
Most people use the term AK 47 and AK 74 as a generalized meaning. A rifle shooting a specific caliber. You really don't want to get into the world of actual AK names. :)

AKS 74
AKM 47
Type 56
AK 101
AK 105
AMD 65
AIM 74
AIMR
AKSU74
AKSU47
M70
M92
Etc.

But there are Krinks in 7.62.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z69/guncobook/SmallArms/SmallArms029.jpg

"Krinkov" is also sometimes used as a general term meaning short barrel Kalashnikov type.

Gigan
10-01-2009, 10:47 PM
thank you guys

Napalm Bulldog
10-01-2009, 10:56 PM
Yes I have an AK 47 now time to get an AK 74. Ak 74 is Russias answer to our M16. It has a longer more accurate range then the AK 47. Also the round has an air pocket inside that causes it to tumble.Thats according to the video I watched.

theseacow
10-01-2009, 11:23 PM
Yes I have an AK 47 now time to get an AK 74. Ak 74 is Russias answer to our M16. It has a longer more accurate range then the AK 47. Also the round has an air pocket inside that causes it to tumble.Thats according to the video I watched.

lol. send me the video for entertainment value.

BB63Squid
10-01-2009, 11:30 PM
Could someone explain the differences between the two to me? Any advantages or disadvantages to one or the other? Thanks.

Here is a good read (http://www.amazon.com/AK-47-AK-74-Kalashnikov-Rifles-Variations/dp/1882391330/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254464972&sr=8-1) on the subject.

joelukehart
10-02-2009, 12:37 AM
Just curious, but aren't there AK74 Krinks in 7.62x39 caliber?

Yup, I've got one. Bulgarian kit built on my RAW Maadi. I would post pics but my polaroids won't stick to the screen.

Napalm Bulldog
10-02-2009, 12:40 AM
lol. send me the video for entertainment value.

Im tryig to find it it shows the inventer of the AK and says the Ak 74 was made for longer distance shooting. The airpocket I think is from WIkipedia. Anyways tried to find it but its late, Sorry If I run across it Ill give you a link.:D

SJgunguy24
10-02-2009, 3:57 AM
Yes I have an AK 47 now time to get an AK 74. Ak 74 is Russias answer to our M16. It has a longer more accurate range then the AK 47. Also the round has an air pocket inside that causes it to tumble.Thats according to the video I watched.


I think that would be less frontal area plus the velocity is less drag and more accuracy at extended ranges.

I like the 30 cal rifle, when shooting at ballistic materials you know what bullet you want to be slinging down range.

B Strong
10-02-2009, 6:02 AM
Yes I have an AK 47 now time to get an AK 74. Ak 74 is Russias answer to our M16. It has a longer more accurate range then the AK 47. Also the round has an air pocket inside that causes it to tumble.Thats according to the video I watched.

The old Afghanistan poison bullet, eh?

I own both, and both cartridges suffer from the old combloc quality control problems. If one is measurably more accurate than the other, I haven't seen it using their ammo.

The 5.45 steel core stuff has an open area at the tip, but never havingn fired any of it at a soft target, I don't know about the "tumbling" effect.

Napalm Bulldog
10-02-2009, 10:29 AM
heres the Wiki on the bullet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.45x39mm

Heres abullet cut in half showing the air pocket in the tip and a little in the middle.http://media.photobucket.com/image/5.45x39%20yaw%20effect/dfariswheel/PICT0001.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dansammo.com/images/inv/as54501.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D12382&usg=__TDY7f4egOVII2oijLxgzn3Wv3fY=&h=732&w=628&sz=46&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbnid=QpoTe8VZKqG_GM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3D5.45x39%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4SUNA_enU S275US275%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1

duraglock
10-02-2009, 10:53 AM
Get both and shoot the 74 more since ammo is cheaper. Same manual of arms but in a cheaper package. I have both and like them and besides the caliber difference you get the same ak function.

Gigan
10-02-2009, 11:41 AM
Correct me if I'm stoopid, (and I am), but is 5.45x39 the same as 223?

Requiem
10-02-2009, 12:01 PM
Correct me if I'm stoopid, (and I am), but is 5.45x39 the same as 223?

no...
without getting into TOO much detail...

.223 is basically the NATO 5.56x45mm round

5.45x39mm is the Warsaw Pact countries' answer to it.

69Mach1
10-02-2009, 12:01 PM
Correct me if I'm stoopid, (and I am), but is 5.45x39 the same as 223?

Similar characteristics and design philosophies.

xxG3xx
10-02-2009, 12:10 PM
For you guys looking for a really nice AK 74 Aim has one that is very well priced but you would need a middle man to take off the grip , and take apart the mag.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/In_Range_AK-74_5.45x39_Rifle.html

I want one but I have to wait a little while longer

Gigan
10-02-2009, 12:14 PM
Im playing the waiting game as well. Trying to find out which AK would suit me best

ripcurlksm
10-02-2009, 12:19 PM
When I got my new truck my new plates start with "8K74"

stix213
10-02-2009, 12:21 PM
Also keep in mind that the 7.62x39 round is more available than the 5.45

JPurp
10-02-2009, 1:24 PM
Here are a few other AK 74s in black and the dealers will remove the grip before sending so no middle man;

http://shop.peachstateguns.com/product.sc?productId=619&categoryId=132
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct760.aspx

A note on the TGI brand you will probably have the front break welded on. I was able to remove mine with a Dremel to allow for better cleaning.

For you guys looking for a really nice AK 74 Aim has one that is very well priced but you would need a middle man to take off the grip , and take apart the mag.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/In_Range_AK-74_5.45x39_Rifle.html

I want one but I have to wait a little while longer

xxG3xx
10-02-2009, 1:26 PM
any reason why they weld it on?

69Mach1
10-02-2009, 1:41 PM
Speculation is that so they didn't have to cut up the barrel. There's been a barrel import ban since 2005.

xxG3xx
10-02-2009, 1:43 PM
so is it legal to take the weld off?

69Mach1
10-04-2009, 1:31 PM
so is it legal to take the weld off?

Sure, but if you're going to remove the weld on the bayonet lug too, make sure your rifle is 922r compliant.

Atlantic Firearms.com
10-04-2009, 1:47 PM
We have Bulgarian AK74 rifles in stock with a lifetime warranty and side mount scope rail NO WELEDED BRAKE $599 and up .
Atlantic Firearms,llc

www.atlanticfirearms.com

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/data/default/images/catalog/large/AK74BULGBLONDE.jpg

Calishnikov
10-04-2009, 11:31 PM
also may I recommend K-Var (http://www.k-var.com/shop/)
they essentially are Arsenal's online store. Lots of great rifles and AK parts there, but you may need a middleman to facilitate your various interests.