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LAW483
03-23-2005, 10:21 AM
The SOPMOD topic was drifting off-topic so I started this thread. I work with Troy Industries and also make my own custom M14/M1A stocks. Many here want the Troy Rock SOPMOD, Troy MSS, or Sage International stock but can't have them in Cali because of the pistol grip and collapsing buttstock. As put in another thread, I am trying to prioritize my work, and future projects with Troy Industries, and would like some input. I have new Laminated wood versions of these stocks in the works.

LAW483 Patrol Stock (with only the right front rail)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Patrol%20Stock/DSC00841.jpg

LAW483 Vertical Grip Off-Hand stock (also available with the patrol style front end)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Vertcal%20Grip%20Off%20Hand%20Stock/Dsc00796.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Vertcal%20Grip%20Off%20Hand%20Stock/DSC00997.jpg

Also, a new tail end for the Sage is not out of the question. Here is a simple one that I have already made (The camo is not my work, but the stock is. I could have done a spacer sytem, but the customer did no want that):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Sage%20Standard%20Grip%20Buttstock/LAW483StockSageEBR.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Sage%20Standard%20Grip%20Buttstock/sageR2.jpg

Please keep in mind that I make custom stocks. Each one is made for a particular customer; they are not cookie-cutter stocks. Consequently, they are around $400 and up, made to your spec, complete, finished, and ready to drop in. A Sage replacement buttstock would be around $175 or so. The actual price will depend on a lot of variables.

So, a Cali legal...

LAW483 Custom Stock...
Troy MSS with Custom Buttstock...
Sage with Custom Buttstock...
Rock SOPMOD Conversion with a Custom Buttstock...

What interests you?

Take Care,

Tony

LAW483
03-23-2005, 10:21 AM
The SOPMOD topic was drifting off-topic so I started this thread. I work with Troy Industries and also make my own custom M14/M1A stocks. Many here want the Troy Rock SOPMOD, Troy MSS, or Sage International stock but can't have them in Cali because of the pistol grip and collapsing buttstock. As put in another thread, I am trying to prioritize my work, and future projects with Troy Industries, and would like some input. I have new Laminated wood versions of these stocks in the works.

LAW483 Patrol Stock (with only the right front rail)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Patrol%20Stock/DSC00841.jpg

LAW483 Vertical Grip Off-Hand stock (also available with the patrol style front end)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Vertcal%20Grip%20Off%20Hand%20Stock/Dsc00796.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Vertcal%20Grip%20Off%20Hand%20Stock/DSC00997.jpg

Also, a new tail end for the Sage is not out of the question. Here is a simple one that I have already made (The camo is not my work, but the stock is. I could have done a spacer sytem, but the customer did no want that):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Sage%20Standard%20Grip%20Buttstock/LAW483StockSageEBR.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20Sage%20Standard%20Grip%20Buttstock/sageR2.jpg

Please keep in mind that I make custom stocks. Each one is made for a particular customer; they are not cookie-cutter stocks. Consequently, they are around $400 and up, made to your spec, complete, finished, and ready to drop in. A Sage replacement buttstock would be around $175 or so. The actual price will depend on a lot of variables.

So, a Cali legal...

LAW483 Custom Stock...
Troy MSS with Custom Buttstock...
Sage with Custom Buttstock...
Rock SOPMOD Conversion with a Custom Buttstock...

What interests you?

Take Care,

Tony

LAW483
03-23-2005, 10:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jjc:
Without the SOPMOD gas mod goodness, how does the MSS different from the SOCOM II ?

http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/rifles/AA9627Large.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The MSS is a new aluminum stock with full length top rail. The SOCOM II is a modified USGI stock.

Take Care,

Tony

voodoo
03-23-2005, 10:43 AM
Tony:

I'd like to have a Sage stock done up just like the one you did in the pic above. I'd toss the SpeedFeed and have you add a short LOP stock with Rooster cheekpiece.

For anyone who isn't familiar with Tony's work, I have one of his short LOP stocks for my M1A that he fitted with a Pachmayr recoil pad. In one word...AWESOME!

LAW483
03-23-2005, 12:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Voodoo:
Tony:

I'd like to have a Sage stock done up just like the one you did in the pic above. I'd toss the SpeedFeed and have you add a short LOP stock with Rooster cheekpiece.

For anyone who isn't familiar with Tony's work, I have one of his short LOP stocks for my M1A that he fitted with a Pachmayr recoil pad. In one word...AWESOME! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the compliment on my work!

If you are going the Sage route consider picking up a "ChopMod" stock when you can find one. The telescoping tail end looks better than the original and you may be able to get a few dollars for it. It should bolt onto a Remington 870 with a little modification. Besides, IMO the ChopMod will look and balance better because the front end is shorter. Contact me anytime; there are lots of options!

Take Care,

Tony

SI-guru
03-23-2005, 12:48 PM
Tony,

I'll be interested in the Sage replacement synthetic tail like this also (Presume there will be recoil pad added).

http://home.graffiti.net/3par/vertical.JPG

TIA

LAW483
03-23-2005, 12:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jjc:
Tony,

I'll be interested in the Sage replacement synthetic tail like this also (Presume there will be recoil pad added).

http://home.graffiti.net/3par/vertical.JPG

TIA </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A Pachmayr Recoil pad would be standard. Adjustable hardware would be optional. However, I will only make them in lamainated wood for now. The laminated wood could be finished or painted; you would not be able to tell it was wood if you prefered. Laminated wood is a great material for stocks; it has great strength and when sealed, it not affected by weather the way regular wood is. It can also be modified by simply removing material.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/Hardware/buttRight800TN.jpg

Take Care,

Tony

Yute
03-23-2005, 1:30 PM
Whoops made a mistake on my post on the last thread - I got a bit confused with all the different cool options http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Anyway I guess my preferance would Sopmod with fixed stock without the fabten grip. If the stock on the sopmod was a modified mss, I wouldn't mind either.
Thanks for listening tony!

LAW483
03-23-2005, 1:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Yute85:
Whoops made a mistake on my post on the last thread - I got a bit confused with all the different cool options http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Anyway I guess my preferance would Sopmod with fixed stock without the fabten grip. If the stock on the sopmod was a modified mss, I wouldn't mind either.
Thanks for listening tony! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope all understand that the SOPMOD is a $2600 Sniper conversion on your rifle, or a $3800 rifle outright. While this is comparable to other sniper and full EBR conversions, it's not inexpensive. It may be the most controlable and best overall performing M14 on the planet, but more people can afford to look at it than buy it! During my latest conversation with Steve Troy, Troy Industries, inc won't consider doing a Cali-legal standard grip (Calimando) SOPMOD until several other projects are behind him, including a LAW483/Troy Cali legal MSS.

Take Care,

Tony

Yute
03-23-2005, 6:06 PM
Loud and clear http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
actually it's good for me at least that Troy will take a while... gotta save up!
http://www.calguns.net/bow.gif

SI-guru
03-23-2005, 9:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LAW483:

A Pachmayr Recoil pad would be standard. Adjustable hardware would be optional. However, I will only make them in lamainated wood for now. The laminated wood could be finished or painted; you would not be able to tell it was wood if you prefered. Laminated wood is a great material for stocks; it has great strength and when sealed, it not affected by weather the way regular wood is. It can also be modified by simply removing material.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Law483/Hardware/buttRight800TN.jpg

Take Care,

Tony </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Tony,
PM sent.

star1687
03-29-2005, 1:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Voodoo:
Tony:

I'd like to have a Sage stock done up just like the one you did in the pic above. I'd toss the SpeedFeed and have you add a short LOP stock with Rooster cheekpiece.

For anyone who isn't familiar with Tony's work, I have one of his short LOP stocks for my M1A that he fitted with a Pachmayr recoil pad. In one word...AWESOME! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Law483, PM sent.