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Woodymyster
10-01-2009, 5:07 PM
I got a bunch of stuff from my uncle the other day and one of the things he collected was ww2 pics from private photo albums. Anyways I thought I would share some of these pics with you guys.


Soviet troops with mosin nagants
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/woodymyster/mosins.jpg

Swiss troops with the K-31 rifle
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/woodymyster/swiss.jpg

German troops marching in formation
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/woodymyster/Germantroopsresize.jpg

Germans with K98k rifles
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/woodymyster/germanmauser.jpg

And my farorite, a Nazi with the most destructive weapon of the war, WAR KITTENS.
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/woodymyster/germankittens.jpg

Saigon1965
10-01-2009, 5:52 PM
Neat pics - Now we can see why those K31s have crappy stock -

Scratch705
10-01-2009, 5:57 PM
ZOMG war kittens!!!!

Peter in CA
10-01-2009, 6:08 PM
Why are there no bolt handles on the right two MN's in the first picture. The receiver / bolt set up looks odd. Non-firing trainers perhaps?

Peter in CA

Lucky Scott
10-01-2009, 6:11 PM
Great pics!

glennsche
10-01-2009, 6:42 PM
Neat pics - Now we can see why those K31s have crappy stock -

the way the swiss wore their packs over their rifles is why most of them look "beaver chewed". i saw a diagram of how they were supposed to be stowed when marching and kinda cringed.

Noonanda
10-01-2009, 6:48 PM
Why are there no bolt handles on the right two MN's in the first picture. The receiver / bolt set up looks odd. Non-firing trainers perhaps?

Peter in CA

They are there, just hard to make out in the picture, if you look close you will see them

robairto
10-01-2009, 7:07 PM
Now this is WWII bring backs from my Uncle.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Uncle_Jacks_WWII_items_007.jpg

jamesob
10-01-2009, 7:18 PM
Why are there no bolt handles on the right two MN's in the first picture. The receiver / bolt set up looks odd. Non-firing trainers perhaps?

Peter in CA

need glasses?:online2long:

skscj
10-01-2009, 7:25 PM
Neat pics - Now we can see why those K31s have crappy stock -
I thought the same thing. Great pics. thanks for sharing.

skscj
10-01-2009, 7:36 PM
If i may, a pic of a neighbor with my Garand. He said he jumped into Europe.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/claude68m1/Picture014.jpg?t=1254450756

Woodymyster
10-01-2009, 8:11 PM
I love these pics. I got into firearms because of their history. Lets keep this thread going... feel free to post any related pics.

glennsche
10-01-2009, 11:17 PM
I love these pics. I got into firearms because of their history. Lets keep this thread going... feel free to post any related pics.

my dad was a captain in the marine corps and served in vietnam. he served as an aviator and flew s-58s and chinooks and finished his tour about a year before tet. he got the silver star for pulling out a bunch of half burned infantrymen who were stuck in a huey which had gone down into the trees and was wedged in the canopy; he held his helicopter on station while taking fire and had the men pulled out of the downed huey and they came up one by one on the life preserver-type lift. Noone he pulled out wanted to be the last man, so the last 2 came up together. (one of the survivors actually found him at a helicopter reunion at vegas some years back and thanked him).

during his tour he flew a lot of missions flying supplies in and out of bases and what not; one day he decided that his sidearm wouldnt be enough should he ever be shot down so he took a "never fired only been dropped once" AK from a pile he was transporting. I remember holding this as a kid.

when he was going thru his second divorce (he was not as good of a husband and father as he was a marine, unfortunately) he threw it away into a dumpster coz he was afraid his soon-to-be ex, my evil step mother, would turn him in for it. so this fine ak is now rotting in a landfill in san diego county somewhere.

this is my dad at about 26yrs old in s. vietnam, 1966ish, his bird in the background

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/glennsche/Ak_471.jpg

7.62x54R
10-01-2009, 11:23 PM
. so this fine ak is now rotting in a landfill in san diego county somewhere.



im sure there are alot of fine AK's rotting in alot of places in the world :D

Gunaria
10-01-2009, 11:26 PM
That looks like a milled AK receiver. Am I right about that?

Fantasma
10-01-2009, 11:37 PM
That looks like a milled AK receiver. Am I right about that?

Yes you are.

glennsche
10-02-2009, 12:15 AM
Yes you are.

what gives it away as such?

Woodymyster
10-02-2009, 12:44 AM
the milled slot in the receiver where the handguard touches the receiver

Francis Marion
10-02-2009, 9:50 AM
Thanks for sharing those photos, a lot of people will enjoy them.

The Nazi soldier holding the kittens (aaaawwww, kittens!!!) probably isn't Nazi. German war fighters fell into two broad categories, the Wehrmacht and the political army, or SS. Two parallel fighting units. SS units (at least those composed of Germans, and especially early in the war) were literally armed extensions of the Nazi pary, and as such were, literally, Nazis. Some foreign SS units were also formed, but the German SS units can be seen in newsreels parading around at party functions.

It would be as if a politcal party here had its own private army, with the same equpment as our regular army, and in war fought alongside the regular army. Also, I think, the Nazis had need of a political army to ensure their survival, to protect the party from rivals, and to be used as a weapon to bust heads at home or abroad. The Communists had similar arrangements, with NKVD military units and to an extent their Ministry of the Interior.
Wehrmacht soldiers were not required to be card carrying Nazi Party members, although officer loyalty was sworn not to Germany, but instead personally to Hitler.

So there's a good chance that the kitten holder, unless he's in the SS, is just some guy who joined up or more likely was drafted and not a card carrying Nazi. But plenty of regular people ended up as replacements in the SS alongside the true believers, especially as units were ground to pieces in eastern front combat.

A fascinating glimpse into the world of the German soldier, the Wehrmacht/Nazi parallels is found in Guy Sajer's autobiography, The Forgotten Soldier. His insights and story are amazing, and his book is highly recommended.

glennsche
10-02-2009, 10:40 AM
Thanks for sharing those photos, a lot of people will enjoy them.

A fascinating glimpse into the world of the German soldier, the Wehrmacht/Nazi parallels is found in Guy Sajer's autobiography, The Forgotten Soldier. His insights and story are amazing, and his book is highly recommended.

favorite book of all time. found it hard back first edition and is worth as much to me as any rifle in the safe.

"What happened next? I retain nothing from those terrible moments
except indistinct memories which flash into my mind with sudden
brutality, like apparitions, among bursts and scenes and visions that
are scarcely imaginable. It is difficuly even to try to remember
moments during which nothing is considered, foreseen, or understood,
when there is nothing under a steel helmet but an astonishingly empty
head and a pair of eyes which translate nothing more than would the
eyes of an animal facing mortal danger.

There is nothing but the rythm
of explosions, more or less distant, more or less violent, and the
cries of madmen, to be classified later, according to the outcome of
the battle, as the cries of heroes or of murderers. And there are the
cries of the wounded, of the agonizingly dying, shrieking as they
stare at the part of their body reduced to pulp, the cries of men
touched by the shock of battle before everyone else, who run in any
and every direction, howling like banshees. There are tragic,
unbelievable visions, which carry from one moment of nausea to
another: guts splattered across the rubble from one dying man to
another; tightly riveted machines ripped like the belly of a cow which
has just been sliced open, flaming and groaning; trees broken into
tiny fragments; gaping windows pouring out torrents of billowing dust,
dispersing into oblivion all that remains of a comfortable parlour....

And then there are the cries of the officers and noncoms, trying to
shout across the cataclysm to regroup their sections and companies.

That is how we took part in the German advance, being called through
the noise and dust, following the clouds churned up by our tanks to
the northern outskirts of Belgorod. All resistance was overwhelmed,
and once again everything was either German or dead, and a sea of
Russian soldiers had drawn back into the limitless confines of their
country."

Woodymyster
10-02-2009, 2:23 PM
I know, but Nazi war kittens rolls of the tounge

glennsche
10-02-2009, 3:02 PM
I know, but Nazi war kittens rolls of the tounge

wasnt that a punk band in the late 70s?

reidnez
10-02-2009, 3:56 PM
That looks like a milled AK receiver. Am I right about that?

Probably an original AK-47, rather than the AKM which is much more common. They were heavy for an assault rifle, almost 10 lbs IIRC. But that would be a pretty amazing piece to own if it were legal.

hybridatsun350
10-02-2009, 4:21 PM
Swiss troops with the K-31 rifle
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/woodymyster/swiss.jpg

Second from the left is a goofy looking MF'er! haha

Cool pics for sure! :D

Spiggy
10-02-2009, 4:46 PM
Second from the left is a goofy looking MF'er! haha

Cool pics for sure! :D

I know his words before they took the picture!



"Acht-Choo!"

tunder
10-02-2009, 9:00 PM
Here's a few from the family album.

My grandfather,second from the left,with a captured 98 Mauser that is now in dad's closet unfired since 1918. This was taken right before he and his buddies shipped back to the States after WW1.
34432

My grandfather's other gun.
34433

Tech. Sgt.Winters on the left, Dad on the right during desert training at Camp Coxcomb 1943.
34434

ChaparralCommando
10-03-2009, 7:32 PM
I know his words before they took the picture!



"Acht-Choo!"

Several of them look like they're having trouble looking out from under their helmets. I am really enjoying this thread; C&Rs are all about the history behind them and these photos put faces with the rifles.

RimfireJim
10-03-2009, 11:24 PM
Great thread, guys - it's stuff like this that gives real meaning to collecting and shooting mil-surplus firearms. That's one of the things I thing about when I use one. It's not just some gun that was made in a factory that went straight to a store to be purchased - it has a history of being in who knows how many soldiers' hands before it ever wound up in mine. Owning and shooting it is my way of respecting that history.

BTW, hybridatsun350, that 2nd guy from the left could very well be someone's father, uncle, brother, etc. Think about it...

socomIInato
10-03-2009, 11:41 PM
Second from the left is a goofy looking MF'er! haha

Cool pics for sure! :D
these boys don`t look too sharp! probably wondering how to get inside the bank to get at all that nazi gold inside!

Woodymyster
10-05-2009, 1:02 AM
Alright, I have two more pics for you guys.

The first pic is of my Great Uncle. I know at the time of this picture, most of the family was still in England or just coming over. Anyways from what I understand, he was in a lancer division. My dad says he was a Coldstream Guard, but I don't think thats true (maybe he saw the bearskin hat and then came to conclusions?). Anyway, if anyone can help me identify were a fine gentleman would be wearing that type of uniform would be greatly appreciated.
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/woodymyster/ArthurFisher.jpg

The second pic I found in an antique book I bought while in Italy. I believe it is an Italian solder from WW1. Anyways, I am almost positive that he is holding the old model 91 Carcano. However, if anyone knows better, please correct me.
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/woodymyster/img040.jpg

Air
10-05-2009, 4:36 AM
And my farorite, a Nazi with the most destructive weapon of the war, WAR KITTENS.
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/woodymyster/germankittens.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3214885260_a981772153.jpg