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Lumpia is sarap!
09-29-2009, 8:22 PM
What type of safe do you store it in and what type of range bag do you travel with? As for safes, I'm currently living in an apartment so this is out of the picture:

http://home.solin.net/renovation/main/pics/GunSafe.jpg

Need some recommendation on securing my AR15. Salamat!

SoCalRandy
09-29-2009, 10:22 PM
Are you on the top or bottom floor? There are plenty of decent safes in the 400-500 pound range which should be fine on the first, second or third floor. Think about it, an average man weighs close to 200 pounds. If you are worried about the weight of a 400 pound safe on the second or third floor of an apartment then that would mean two 200 pound men wouldn't be able stand in close proximity to eachother in an apartment either? The Cannon Patriot P14 weighs 400lbs., 22" x 59" x 20", 6-12 gun capacity, lifetime warranty, approximately $600.00

JTROKS
09-29-2009, 10:32 PM
If the safe is out of the question get one of these.

http://www.bestforpet.com/gallery/images/6/1_muscular-pit-bull.jpg

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/kj/090814/879r8/297525e_20.jpeg

And an alarm.

Sonic_mike
09-29-2009, 10:45 PM
Holy crap look at the last pit.

JTROKS
09-29-2009, 11:05 PM
Holy crap look at the last pit.

Exactly! Can you imagine her male puppies?

chachi313
09-29-2009, 11:21 PM
I want LUMPIA!!!!!

the last pit looks beefy, tight!!!!

bolantej
09-29-2009, 11:22 PM
Any moderately priced safe will do against the typical burglar in a hurry. Just mount it to the wall to make it a real bear for them to swipe it.

I carry mine in a bag that does not resemble a gun case, so that anyone who would want to take such things don't really notice it.

cmace22
09-30-2009, 12:56 AM
A 400lb safe will do fine in an apt...... I would get an American bulldog instead of the pit though :)

SanSacto
09-30-2009, 1:06 AM
Holy crap look at the last pit.

Exactly! Can you imagine her male puppies?

I am legitimately shocked by the musles on that dog. Wow. :eek:

Sorry for not contributing much, just get a decent safe.....

sao
09-30-2009, 2:52 AM
I have a really small American Security Safe (http://www.amsecusa.com/gun-safes-TF-main.html) (TF5517) think its about 250lbs. I put it in a closet and bolted it down. Im a poor college student and dont have a "huge" collection, so it fits the bill. It sure beats keeping them under my bed :p

NSR500
09-30-2009, 3:25 AM
At the bottom of a deep and expansive body of water.

SCMA-1
09-30-2009, 7:02 AM
At the very minimum, buy a steel gun "cabinet" and bolt it into the wall studs; they fit perfectly in most closets. Turners has them on sale fairly often (~$120).

B Strong
09-30-2009, 7:24 AM
If you're in an apartment, you're faced by the common limitations.

Was I in your position, I'd look at a simple locking cabinent type "safe" like the stack-on types. hide it in a closet. It will keep kids and honest people out of your business.

For a transportation case, the Voodoo Tactical cases are a good inexpensive alternative to the high-end, high dollar cases.

http://www.voodootactical.net/

kamagong
09-30-2009, 8:42 AM
If the safe is out of the question get one of these.

http://www.bestforpet.com/gallery/images/6/1_muscular-pit-bull.jpg

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/kj/090814/879r8/297525e_20.jpeg

And an alarm.

Is that a Staffordshire Bull Terrier?

TZL
09-30-2009, 9:49 AM
not to mention two people on the hefty side getting it on....plus the additional up and down motion...

....If you are worried about the weight of a 400 pound safe on the second or third floor of an apartment then that would mean two 200 pound men wouldn't be able stand in close proximity to eachother in an apartment either? .....

Ian
09-30-2009, 9:57 AM
I too live in an apartment (2nd floor) and the only break-in I'm worried about is my 3 year old or one of his babysitters. So while at Academy the other day I saw this for $89 and grabbed it:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3254/41vz8he2bolss500.jpg
http://bit.ly/Cbb2h

It bolts to the wall studs and so far my boy hasn't figured out how to get into it. Best part is there's no combo to remember. Yeah it's not fire safe and a burglar could get into it in about five seconds if he brings his own crowbar but I'm insured against those types of losses.

This is the range bag I bought for it at the Cheaper than Dirt catalog counter:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3580/molle204.jpg
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MOLLE204-6.html

My rifle is a home-brewed Aero Precision lower w/RRA 16" 5.56 upper. I have it configured in a badass semi-CA-compliant look. Turns heads at the range. Someday I'll post pics...

that's pretty much how I keep my guns too. that stack-on security cabinet fits perfectly in my room's closet.

BLC
09-30-2009, 10:04 AM
I too live in an apartment (2nd floor) and the only break-in I'm worried about is my 3 year old or one of his babysitters. So while at Academy the other day I saw this for $89 and grabbed it:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3254/41vz8he2bolss500.jpg
http://bit.ly/Cbb2h

It bolts to the wall studs and so far my boy hasn't figured out how to get into it. Best part is there's no combo to remember. Yeah it's not fire safe and a burglar could get into it in about five seconds if he brings his own crowbar but I'm insured against those types of losses.

This is the range bag I bought for it at the Cheaper than Dirt catalog counter:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3580/molle204.jpg
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MOLLE204-6.html

My rifle is a home-brewed Aero Precision lower w/RRA 16" 5.56 upper. I have it configured in a badass semi-CA-compliant look. Turns heads at the range. Someday I'll post pics...



+1 for the rifle case, its what I use for my SOCOM.

fliparch
09-30-2009, 11:36 AM
Check out Stack-On gun safes and lockers.

sevensix2x51
09-30-2009, 11:48 AM
imho, the safe doesnt really have to be all that heavy. my safe only weighs about 250 when empty, but seeing as i have 1/2" redheads into the slab, and lags into the wall studs, it might as well weigh 10000#. two guys with an appliance dolly can pretty much take off with anythig that isnt bolted down... how do you think they get those 1200# safes where they need to go? they sure arent built in place... my 2 cents... if i was limited on space, i would just get the most narrow actual safe(harder to pry into than the lock boxes above) that spans 2 studs i can find, and bolt a lag every 12-18" or so in each stud... thats about as good as youre gonna get, if you arent on a slab...

Squidward
09-30-2009, 11:55 AM
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/homak-in-the-wall-gun-safe.aspx?a=472566&pn=9

bandoi
09-30-2009, 1:14 PM
Lol.. nice avatar Lumpia... and yes, lumpia is delish!

Lancear15
09-30-2009, 2:05 PM
Is that a Staffordshire Bull Terrier?

Whatever it is, it's on steroids.

BlackViper
09-30-2009, 2:21 PM
Another +1 for the AmSec 5517. Under $500, a "real" safe, + fire protection. It's a little heavy if you need to get it up stairs but other than that its real manageable. Put it in your closet and you'll be fine.

Don't use it to take your guns to the range though ;)

tomd1584
09-30-2009, 2:45 PM
for the time being while I live in an apartment, i keep a lock through the lower, and its in my 36" soft bag with locks on the zippers tucked under the bed. I'm saving to get a safe, but for now thats what I do. Oh, and I got renters insurance and added firearms to the policy (up to $3,000)

Acorn556
09-30-2009, 2:51 PM
I just throw mine under the bed. If you're the only one there what does it matter? When I go to the range I just walk in with it unloaded and carry my mags. Sometimes it's annoying trying to carry 8 or 10 mags but it works and I don't have to have some pretty bag to make sure the gun doesn't get scratched.

You could buy a Pelican 1700 and cut the foam.

CCRBUM
09-30-2009, 3:21 PM
mine sleeps between my wife and I :D... not really... under lock and key in the closet. The .357 Magnum sleeps with us :D

Lumpia is sarap!
09-30-2009, 3:24 PM
Great suggestions guys. As for keeping it at home, I live in an upstairs triplex...I'm sure my buddies and I can lift up a 400lb. safe, but it's only for one AR. Right now I'm keeping it unassembled in a duffle bag that's locked. I need something a bit more practical that I can transport the safe if I end up moving...out of state.

As for a range bag, I like the keyboard style bag. Keep suggesting!

Lumpia fo' life!

missiontrails
09-30-2009, 3:36 PM
In my closet, in a Tac-Force discrete case. I also keep a half loaded mag up on the top shelf in the closet. Fairly quick access incase I need it for home defense.

DREADNOUGHT78
09-30-2009, 3:39 PM
If the safe is out of the question get one of these.

http://www.bestforpet.com/gallery/images/6/1_muscular-pit-bull.jpg

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/kj/090814/879r8/297525e_20.jpeg

And an alarm.

Nice bully!

ALCO HK
09-30-2009, 3:58 PM
[QUOTE=JTROKS;3135015]If the safe is out of the question get one of these.

http://www.bestforpet.com/gallery/images/6/1_muscular-pit-bull.jpg

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/kj/090814/879r8/297525e_20.jpeg

And an alarm.[/QUOTE
Looks like lunch to me! need better security for filipinos!:D

12:13
09-30-2009, 7:26 PM
Looks like lunch to me! need better security for filipinos!:D

:laugh: Wait a minute, they're not completely black though!:eek:

Heavy_Grinder
09-30-2009, 7:35 PM
How Do You Keep Your AR-15?????

In a safe of course:rolleyes:Sentry to be exact. Wouldnt want to keep her or them anywhere else..Take a peek.....

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/Arch_Royal/DSC00607.jpg

Flying Bones
09-30-2009, 8:24 PM
Big, locking safe.
When going to the range, anthing...but I REALLY want one of the guitar shaped cases from Ione...

dieselpower
09-30-2009, 8:26 PM
When I lived in an apartment I cut the drywall in the back of the closet and made a false wall. Took a little bit to get it to look right, but afterward you couldnt tell it was removable.

cmace22
09-30-2009, 10:29 PM
Is that a Staffordshire Bull Terrier?

Could be, looks alot like its larger cousin the American staffordshire terrier/Pit bull terrier.

tvfreakarms
10-05-2009, 6:16 PM
I was curious to know why some safes states that "electronic items" shouldn't be stored in the safe?

I was checking out the stack on elite safes that are fire/water resistant safes and it said not to store cd or other electronic items. Is it because it has something to do with being water resistant?