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Shane916
09-28-2009, 9:10 PM
Looking into picking up a Tipton 26" Carbon Rod...is a bore-guide a necessity with this?

Won't be used in any precision weapons, more or less just an M4.

AlliedArmory
09-28-2009, 9:17 PM
i dont use one. I use the same rod

swerv512
09-28-2009, 9:17 PM
i use a pro-shot premium coated rods and i still use bore guides. better to use than to not.... why risk it.

car15
09-29-2009, 6:58 AM
What do you guys think of inserting the rod muzzle end and pulling the brush out kinda like a bore snake ?

The JP bore guide is the best I've used.

B Strong
09-29-2009, 7:14 AM
Bore guides are inexpensive.

They work as advertised.

I use them.

Just because you're not cleaning a National Match rifle doesn't mean you shouldn't treat like it like one.

B Strong
09-29-2009, 7:15 AM
What do you guys think of inserting the rod muzzle end and pulling the brush out kinda like a bore snake ?

The JP bore guide is the best I've used.

Always clean from the chamber end forward.

ocabj
09-29-2009, 7:19 AM
http://www.ocabj.net/gallery2/d/5356-4/IMG_5156.jpg

dachan
09-29-2009, 7:55 AM
Using a bore guide doesn't just protect your investment, it also speeds up and improves the cleaning process. Here's a used Dewey bore guide for sale:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=223002

sholling
09-29-2009, 2:03 PM
I use a bore guide and coated rod.

818gtiguy
09-29-2009, 2:08 PM
+1 on that

ar15barrels
09-29-2009, 2:13 PM
What do you guys think of inserting the rod muzzle end and pulling the brush out kinda like a bore snake ?

You will trash the crown.

Vinz
09-29-2009, 2:50 PM
Also, you are going to need a longer cleaning rod cause the bore guide adds a few inches...well, I have no idea what length barrel you have, just a heads up.

I have an 18" barrel and it required the use of a 36" rod.

Vinz

BlackViper
09-29-2009, 4:33 PM
I just got the JP bore guide - and this thing is the cadillac of bore guides. It'll last forever I think and is well thought out.

+1

GTXR390
09-29-2009, 6:25 PM
i still dunno what's going on? ahahaha, i've been using an OTIS kit...anyone got a video on how to use a bore guide? and what the heck it looks like? much appreciated. =)

DarkHorse
09-29-2009, 6:36 PM
i still dunno what's going on? ahahaha, i've been using an OTIS kit...anyone got a video on how to use a bore guide? and what the heck it looks like? much appreciated. =)

http://www.ocabj.net/gallery2/d/5356-4/IMG_5156.jpg

The white thing.

GTXR390
09-29-2009, 6:44 PM
The white thing.

yea, i saw the pic, earlier in the thread, anyone.....oh nmind, i'll just google image it. so what is it suppose to do? guide the bore rod, so it don't scratch up the rifling?

thanks fellas n ladies

ar15barrels
09-29-2009, 8:32 PM
so what is it suppose to do? guide the bore rod, so it don't scratch up the rifling?

Yes.
It forces you to keep the rod centered in the bore.
Without a guide, the rod tends to rub against the throat which is the most critical area of the whole barrel.

GTXR390
09-29-2009, 9:11 PM
AR15barrels,

would you recommend using a bore guide, even if i use the OTIS kit?

thanks!

ar15barrels
09-29-2009, 10:43 PM
would you recommend using a bore guide, even if i use the OTIS kit?

thanks!

The bore guide does nothing when you are pulling a limp cable through the bore.

GTXR390
09-30-2009, 9:24 AM
The bore guide does nothing when you are pulling a limp cable through the bore.

ahahah, ok, gotcha, but just curious, the OTIS cable is a lil stiff cable, the boresnake would be limp...any chance i would still damage the throat, bore, and rifling?

or anyone might know from actually looking through the barrel? thanks again!
:)

ar15barrels
09-30-2009, 9:30 AM
ahahah, ok, gotcha, but just curious, the OTIS cable is a lil stiff cable, the boresnake would be limp...any chance i would still damage the throat, bore, and rifling?

or anyone might know from actually looking through the barrel? thanks again!
:)

It will egg-out the muzzle, but it won't damage the throat.
A rigid rod and a bore guide is best.

I would only use an otis as a last resort in the field.
I would never use it as a primary method of cleaning.

Cal-Irish
09-30-2009, 1:33 PM
It will egg-out the muzzle, but it won't damage the throat.
A rigid rod and a bore guide is best.

I would only use an otis as a last resort in the field.
I would never use it as a primary method of cleaning.
You think it would egg out the muzzle?
Pulling it through flat there kooks to be plenty of clearance.

Bug Splat
09-30-2009, 2:01 PM
It will egg-out the muzzle, but it won't damage the throat.
A rigid rod and a bore guide is best.

I would only use an otis as a last resort in the field.
I would never use it as a primary method of cleaning.



Big +1

I'd even rather use a Boresnake over an Otis. I use nothing but Dewey rods and Bore guides for all my guns. I always take a dewey and patches with me to the range not only to clean but also to remove stuck cases (only happened twice but both times I was without a rod). I have Boresnakes that I keep in either my field bag or in the gun itself in case I have to do a quick wipe.

Improper cleaning can cause more damage to the throat and crown then shooting. If someone is going to half-arse it, they are better off not cleaning at all.

ar15barrels
09-30-2009, 2:09 PM
You think it would egg out the muzzle?
Pulling it through flat there kooks to be plenty of clearance.

Clearance is not the issue.
The issue is that when you pull it, you pull against one side of the crown.
There's no avoiding it.

The plastic covering on the cable might not do any damage, but the grit that's on the outside of the plastic certainly will damage the crown.

Cal-Irish
09-30-2009, 2:20 PM
Clearance is not the issue.
The issue is that when you pull it, you pull against one side of the crown.
There's no avoiding it.

The plastic covering on the cable might not do any damage, but the grit that's on the outside of the plastic certainly will damage the crown.
Hmm..k

I'm going to be cautious as possible and invest in a rod down the road..