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BananaTyrant
09-27-2009, 1:46 AM
My friend's Uncle is going to let us shoot his rifle. I want to get some ammo for it so I don't use all of his but we're not sure what caliber it is. The Uncle is not sure either, he's never shot it before. He couldn't see a caliber stamped on it anywhere. Just a serial number and RE inside a circle. His Uncle believes it to be .30-40 caliber. Was wondering if anyone can help us. He's sending me a pic of it tomorrow hopefully, I'll add it when I get it.

badicedog
09-27-2009, 1:59 AM
Pictures would sure help...

Steve O
09-27-2009, 2:40 AM
"Mystery Rifle" what mystery rifle?...i don't see any rifle in here...

StevieC
09-27-2009, 7:01 AM
"Mystery Rifle" what mystery rifle?...i don't see any rifle in here...

it's part of the mystery http://www.liveruckus.com/forums/images/smilies/idea.gif

CSACANNONEER
09-27-2009, 7:04 AM
To be 100% sure, a hands on inspection may be required. Take it to a good local gunshop and ask them.

Intimid8tor
09-27-2009, 8:06 AM
IF he aleady has ammo, shoot his then take a box and buy replacements for him. Buy the wrong ammo and it is a waste.

elrcastor
09-27-2009, 9:23 AM
:useless:

ar15barrels
09-27-2009, 12:32 PM
IF he aleady has ammo, shoot his then take a box and buy replacements for him.

You are assuming he has the CORRECT ammo for the rifle... ;)

fal_762x51
09-27-2009, 12:49 PM
I'm going with either a Remington-Lee 1899, Krag, or 1895 Winchester if its original and not another action with a 30-40 barrel on it.

Seesm
09-27-2009, 2:27 PM
Pics only help if it has the std chamber...

dieselpower
09-27-2009, 6:05 PM
It has to say somehwere on it. I bet its just so obsure you can't tell what it is.

1988
09-27-2009, 8:01 PM
His Uncle believes it to be .30-40 caliber.

"Believe" is a very dangerous thought when it comes down to firearms.

You'd rather have it confirmed. Do not shoot it unless you know what it is.

Please ask for picture or confirmation if they can find any stamping on the barrel or receiver.

22popnsplat
09-27-2009, 8:50 PM
The tarot cards say 30-30

NorCalRifleman
09-27-2009, 8:55 PM
Know anyone who casts bullets? You could plug the barrel an inch or so past the chamber, then pour some lead into the chamber. When it cools, pull it out and measure it. It could be a little complicated and tedious, but rather that than blowing your face off.

BananaTyrant
09-28-2009, 1:15 AM
Sorry about the lack of pics. I thought he'd be more prompt with sending one of the complete rifle considering he was sending me so many of just the barrel. I'll add the ones I have of the barrel.

He uses a penny as a reference for size of the bore. Sorry about the crappy quality, he used his camera phone.

HappyG
09-28-2009, 1:24 AM
How can someone forget what caliber a certain weapon is? That's like forgetting if you have a v6 or v8...I'm not being mean OP, just thinking how many guns he has to forget calibers. LoL.

BananaTyrant
09-28-2009, 1:29 AM
I think my friend's Uncle inherited it from his grandfather when he passed a while back. He might have never known the caliber. Knowing his family it's possible it hasn't been shot. My friend is the only one interested in firearms in the family for awhile. The rifle's just been sitting in his Uncle's closet for years.

Richie Caketown
09-28-2009, 1:38 AM
he didnt send a pic of the complete rifle?

BananaTyrant
09-28-2009, 1:48 AM
Not yet. I keep asking him to. I think his Uncle is out of the house or something.

Richie Caketown
09-28-2009, 1:50 AM
until u get more details or someone more knowledgeable posts up i think the best thing u can do right now is look at a reloading manual for specs of the size of the barrel / bullet

Sheldon
09-28-2009, 3:34 AM
Need a pic of the whole rifle in order to even guess what caliber that action might typically be made in.....a barrel ain't much help except to get the roughest of guess of what caliber the bullet may be......and I wouldn't put much on that even.

B Strong
09-28-2009, 6:44 AM
Stop! Do not pass Go, do not fire rifle until it is checked by a competent gunsmith.

Doing a chamber cast will tell you what the rifle is chambered for, but with a deal like this I'd want the thing headspaced too - and if you have a gunowner unsure of caliber he will for damn sure be unaware of the condition of the rifle wrt mechanical safety.

BananaTyrant
09-28-2009, 6:20 PM
Finally got the pic of the rifle. It was the best he could do for the pic. I guess his uncle took it somewhere.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=34136&stc=1&d=1254190824

floogy
09-28-2009, 6:35 PM
The stock? That stock could go to any number of rifles made between the 1930s and 2009... It's impossible to tell from the pictures. Regardless, if it hast been fired in anyone's memory and no one seems to know a caliber take it to a gunsmith.

AJAX22
09-28-2009, 6:40 PM
I'm starting to think the 222 prefix ('serial number') on the barrel may stand for .222REM

ar15barrels
09-28-2009, 6:46 PM
Finally got the pic of the rifle. It was the best he could do for the pic. I guess his uncle took it somewhere.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=34136&stc=1&d=1254190824

So now we have seen the stock and the barrel.
Since there's no action, it's safe to fire ANY cartridge you want in the stock and barrel.
Just don't re-install the action into the barrel and stock until you figure out what cartridge it is.
Make sure you use the proper action that came out of that stock and barrel.
You don't want to mix up actions and barrels.
It's just not a good practice.

sevensix2x51
09-28-2009, 6:59 PM
I'm starting to think the 222 prefix ('serial number') on the barrel may stand for .222REM

except that it says "232..." :D

AJAX22
09-28-2009, 7:07 PM
except that it says "232..." :D

well, my eyes probably suck almost as bad as that guys macro setting...

sevensix2x51
09-28-2009, 7:12 PM
well, my eyes probably suck almost as bad as that guys macro setting...

thats what us young smartasses are here for. we got your back! :thumbsup:

AJAX22
09-28-2009, 7:16 PM
thats what us young smartasses are here for. we got your back! :thumbsup:

Damn... I'm only 27... when did I become an old guy?

My eyes are bad far away (i can still see motion, and shoot it) but up close they're pretty good.

I just can't hit the ground squirrels if they stand still.

dieselpower
09-28-2009, 7:17 PM
take it to a gunsmith, they will check the chamber and tell you exactly what it is

sevensix2x51
09-28-2009, 7:17 PM
Damn... I'm only 27... when did I become an old guy?

My eyes are bad far away (i can still see motion, and shoot it) but up close they're pretty good.

I just can't hit the ground squirrels if they stand still.

well its usually old guys that cant see nothin'... but as far as im concerned, anybody over 26 is an old coot, and anyone under 26 is a young whippersnapper.

Mssr. Eleganté
09-28-2009, 7:19 PM
Does he have any close-ups of the recoil pad? That would help a lot.

tankerman
09-28-2009, 7:54 PM
All I see is a barrel and stock.

That's not a gun, just a pile of parts.

ar15barrels
09-28-2009, 9:00 PM
as far as im concerned, anybody over 26 is an old coot, and anyone under 26 is a young whippersnapper.

ah crap, I'm an old coot.

ar15barrels
09-28-2009, 9:01 PM
All I see is a barrel and stock.

That's not a gun, just a pile of parts.

Now that's a revelation.

BananaTyrant
09-28-2009, 9:16 PM
Sorry guys, on my phone it looked complete.

shark92651
09-29-2009, 6:56 AM
It may be prudent, once you get the rifle put back together and have some sort of confidence in the caliber, to duck behind a bunker and fire it with a string :D

1988
09-29-2009, 9:36 AM
except that it says "232..." :D

Could it be the 232-250 ?

Check out the following link:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/old_mausers.htm

Just a hint to identify the rifle... Have it checked by a professional.

00BuckShot
09-29-2009, 9:46 AM
OP...my suggestion, go to the range with a competent individual that is well versed in the guns he brings to the range. You don't know how dangerous it can be to have the mindset of "I think it's this..." or "I'm pretty sure I got the right ammo." It's just an accident waiting to happen. Might I suggest finding a local indoor range where you can rent a gun and buy ammo and get your rocks off that way. Just looking out for a brother. Good luck.

sevensix2x51
09-29-2009, 4:47 PM
Could it be the 232-250 ?

Check out the following link:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/old_mausers.htm

Just a hint to identify the rifle... Have it checked by a professional.

if youre getting that caliber from that site, then you have taken it out of context. they are just talking about projectile weights, not cartridge designation. afaik there is no such cartridge.

To make a long story short, I'd say that it comes pretty close to being the "Gun that Won Africa." With 232-250 grain bullets it is roughly comparable in performance to the .350 Remington Magnum; with heavy 270-293 grain bullets it is not far behind the .375 Holland & Holland Magnum. The basic strength of this cartridge was that it had enough raw power for big game and relatively manageable recoil.