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janus408
09-25-2009, 2:15 AM
I am currently working on my first bolt action rifle build. I am thinking about a Remington 700 SPS (30-06), JAE-700 Stock, and a Millett TRS-1. Anyone recommend anything else (better barrel, better base rifle, stock or scope?)

angryasian
09-25-2009, 2:40 AM
ive done quite a few builds over the past couple of years and the sps 20" tactical is a great starter rifle. when the barrel goes bad, upgrade it. sell the stock and bottom metal and you can usually get 110+ for it. the j allen stocks are the best, and your choice of scopes is great. in the under $400 range, the trs 1, in my opinion, beasts out the super sniper and menace scopes in the tactical department. the burris fullfield scopes are great for the non tactical look. I thing youve made some great choices.

both these started as sps tacticals

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs130.snc1/5600_100493589962038_100000041922218_12402_935185_ n.jpg
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs150.snc1/5600_100445949966802_100000041922218_10436_7084445 _n.jpg

swerv512
09-25-2009, 4:07 AM
talk about upgrades! nice rifles- you might consider the varmint model with the longer barrel if you please... you can never go wrong with a 700 as a start....

hnoppenberger
09-25-2009, 9:26 AM
the 20 inch barrel shoots tighter.

janus408
09-25-2009, 11:06 AM
angryasian - where did you get the barrel/break on the bottom gun? And what bipods are you using?

loudninja
09-25-2009, 11:10 AM
does anyone know if the jae-700 works with the left-handed 700s?

ripcurlksm
09-25-2009, 12:00 PM
they may have left-handed stocks -- call and ask

swerv512
09-25-2009, 1:58 PM
the 20 inch barrel shoots tighter.

i'm no scientist- but i agree that a shorter barrel may have less deflection, but i'm more concerned with velocity loss of a shorter barrel compared to a longer barrel when stretching out a bullet's legs around 1000+ yds. not that it cant be done, it would just make more sense to use a longer barrel so you wont have to keep adding powder to extreme pressure levels....

ar15barrels
09-26-2009, 9:09 PM
does anyone know if the jae-700 works with the left-handed 700s?

There would have to be a specific version for left handed use.
The Jae 700 stocks have not even been produced yet and are not slated to be produced until next year so this whole thread is moot at this time.

nav195
09-26-2009, 10:22 PM
If you get the jae can't wait to see it

swerv512
09-27-2009, 7:57 AM
oh.. i didnt see that the OP wantes to build a 30-06 rifle... i guess i'm now a little confused with the OP purpose? what is your goal for the rifle- long range tactical, hunting, all-rounder, benchrest precision??? i only ask because not too many people building 06's these days.

a1fabweld
09-27-2009, 9:42 AM
I recently decided to make a run at long range shooting as well. After reading many articles & talking to guys who know what they're doing, I bought a 700 SPS Tactical. I upgraded the stock to a HS Precision stock (same that comes on the 700P), used the HS Precision 10 rd detachable mag conversion, & a Falcon Menace FFP scope. I feel that it's a pretty solid first gun for a rookie long range shooter like myself. Here's a great article that helped me decide on barrel length: http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATbarrel/.

ar15barrels
09-27-2009, 11:36 AM
I recently decided to make a run at long range shooting as well. After reading many articles & talking to guys who know what they're doing, I bought a 700 SPS Tactical. I upgraded the stock to a HS Precision stock (same that comes on the 700P), used the HS Precision 10 rd detachable mag conversion, & a Falcon Menace FFP scope. I feel that it's a pretty solid first gun for a rookie long range shooter like myself. Here's a great article that helped me decide on barrel length: http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATbarrel/.

That's a very good starter setup that will serve you well to 600yds.
Almost everyone that decides to go with a shorter barrel used that article as their reasoning.
Just keep in mind that swat and police snipers almost never take a shot past 100yds.
That is why a 20" or even an 18" barrel is an excellent choice for police snipers.
If you want to get into long-range (600+yds) shooting, the velocity you get with a longer barrel is very helpful.

a1fabweld
09-27-2009, 7:51 PM
That's a very good starter setup that will serve you well to 600yds.
Almost everyone that decides to go with a shorter barrel used that article as their reasoning.
Just keep in mind that swat and police snipers almost never take a shot past 100yds.
That is why a 20" or even an 18" barrel is an excellent choice for police snipers.
If you want to get into long-range (600+yds) shooting, the velocity you get with a longer barrel is very helpful.

If I understood the article correctly, they claimed no velocity or accuracy loss with FGM 168grn ammo between the 26" & 20" barrel. My thinking is, if there is no velocity loss or no accuracy loss at 100yds, why would things be any different at longer ranges?

ChrisO
09-27-2009, 8:07 PM
There is no velocity loss with that specific load but you can gain veolicty with the longer barrel at extended ranges it helps.

ar15barrels
09-27-2009, 8:58 PM
If I understood the article correctly, they claimed no velocity or accuracy loss with FGM 168grn ammo between the 26" & 20" barrel.

What gets nicely glossed over in that article is that they are comparing a custom tight bore 20" barrel to a factory 26" barrel.
If you buy a factory 20" barreled gun, you are NOT getting custom tight bore barrel performance.

Comparing either custom to custom or factory to factory, the extra 4" or 6" of barrel gives a significant velocity advantage that becomes much more appearant beyond 600yds.
Don't forget that the article you are basing an opinion on is a sales pitch for a specific custom rifle builder. ;)

Also, there IS velocity loss with that load of about 125fps between 20" and 26" barrels when compared in similar barrels.

At sea level, the speed of sound is about 1115fps so we use 1150 as a threshold to determine where the bullet is probably starting to go transonic.
That 125fps of loss on a 168gr SMK changes your maximum range from about 925 yds to 875yds.

a1fabweld
09-28-2009, 12:29 AM
Good to know. Fortunately for me, I'm not discouraged in my purchase. It's going to be a long time before I can group tight enough at 800yds to warrant a longer barrel. :p

ar15barrels
09-28-2009, 1:59 PM
Good to know. Fortunately for me, I'm not discouraged in my purchase. It's going to be a long time before I can group tight enough at 800yds to warrant a longer barrel. :p

We won't get into the differences the extra velocity makes in the wind at 800yds.
Get back to us after you have some rounds on target, or at least NEAR the 800yd target. ;)