View Full Version : Lock 'N Load on Showtime?
Sorry if this is in the wrong sub-forum..
Anyone know anything about the upcoming series on Showtime called "Lock 'N Load"? I have seen a few adverts for it on Showtime and I cant tell if it leans towards the RKBA cause or against it. Searches of forums I post to show no results. Anyone have any info?
http://www.sho.com/site/video/brightcove/series/title.do?bcpid=18808673001&bclid=18836227001&bctid=18945594001
I am a fan of Penn and Teller's BullS**t so I have a grain (ha!) of hope that it may be unbiased...but I am not holding my breath.
hollabillz
09-22-2009, 01:01 AM
:laugh: nice trailer :) doesn't seem like propaganda...
bigcalidave
09-22-2009, 01:47 AM
A reality show about guns, and the people who buy them? WTF ? Yeah I agree it's showtime, but still. What good can come of it really.
Interesting! My GF just said yesterday that we should have Showtime. I didn't have much of a response as I don't know of any shows on Showtime that I can't live without. Maybe she's right.
thatrogue
09-22-2009, 09:42 AM
"It disarms your pre-conceived notions"
It doesn't look bad, anything showing the normalization of firearms unrelated to gangsters and thugs is a good step in my book.
bohoki
09-22-2009, 11:31 AM
only one lock and load i wathc and that is with r lee ermy
what was up with the stungun at the end
if they are going to include any thing with gun in the name are they going to do airguns too
also sprayguns,capguns,nailguns,stapleguns
liketoshoot
09-22-2009, 11:42 AM
R. Lee Emery just did a good one on shotguns, I want the last one he used, 25 rounds full-auto!!!!
darren916
09-22-2009, 12:22 PM
It actually looks pretty good, watch the "behind the scene" video, not the promo's. I was wondering when they were going to come out with a reality show about a gun shop, I'm happy that it made it on Showtime. I was thinking that they would put one on the outdoor channel or one of the other 2 hunting channels.
The host doesn't actually work at the gun store, he's an actor: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2482852/resume
I'll DVR it, looks interesting.
navyinrwanda
09-22-2009, 01:33 PM
If it's true to the trailers and promos, it'll be fun.
M9Man
09-22-2009, 05:29 PM
Yes sir! we love the Gunny :D
"Keep your powder dry and eyes down range...Oohrah!"
impactco
09-22-2009, 05:35 PM
R. Lee Emery just did a good one on shotguns, I want the last one he used, 25 rounds full-auto!!!!
Yep, the high speed footage of various shotgun loads in flight was very cool. The slow motion impact of the 12 GA slug on the turkey was wild!
Argonaut
09-22-2009, 05:39 PM
We watch it on the History Channel, He is really doing a great job. The Shotgun one was really well done.
ke6guj
09-22-2009, 05:53 PM
"Lock N' Load" is a new show starting Oct 21 on Showtime.
"Lock N' Load with R. Lee Ermey" is the show on the history channel.
They are not the same show.
philthy209
10-21-2009, 04:59 PM
Just watched Showtime's Lock N' Load and it seems very pro 2A. Will record series on my DVR. Does break my heart to see what guns look like in the free world.
Can't wait for Friday's episode of "Lock N' Load with R. Lee Ermey". It's about Rifles. I hope the AR kicks the AK's butt.
gazzavc
10-21-2009, 05:06 PM
Can't wait for Friday's episode of "Lock N' Load with R. Lee Ermey". It's about Rifles. I hope the AR kicks the AK's butt.
There's also a bit with the Lee-Enfield vs 1903 Springfield to see which one shoots faster.
See if you can identify the bloke who's shooting the Lee-Enfield.
Sig357
10-21-2009, 05:16 PM
Here the trailer. I like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z2CSJUK8GA
Sig357
10-21-2009, 05:17 PM
Sry double post...
gemini1
10-21-2009, 08:14 PM
The Lock N Load on the History channel this friday will feature the M16 vs AK47.
soundwave
10-22-2009, 08:31 AM
I watched SHowtimes Lock N' Load last night and it was boring as hell. They need to get a new producer in there or something. It was like watching security cameras with good audio. I was hoping for better.
glockman19
10-22-2009, 08:47 AM
I watched SHowtimes Lock N' Load last night and it was boring as hell. They need to get a new producer in there or something. It was like watching security cameras with good audio. I was hoping for better.
I agree. Good premise but poor execution.
I hope future episodes get better.
The host is not a professional. I'd rather see a better polished host like the guy from Cash cab. This guy talks to much and asks the wrong questions.
SigShooter
10-22-2009, 10:52 AM
I found it to be too much like HBO's "Taxi Cab Confessions" only in a gun shop. Granted there has only been one show, but it could have just as well been filmed in a liquor store or tobacco shop.
yellowfin
10-22-2009, 11:03 AM
Agreed, Ben Bailey is a great host and I'd like to see him do more. Mike Rowe does really well at real life (not so called reality) shows and is a great model for others to follow.
KylaGWolf
10-22-2009, 11:04 AM
Don't have showtime so can't watch it.
I think it's about time. We aren't the world guys, so it's great to show responsible gun ownership to the masses.
bshnt2015
10-22-2009, 02:03 PM
is it on hulu yet?
Sig357
10-22-2009, 02:14 PM
I think it's about time. We aren't the world guys, so it's great to show responsible gun ownership to the masses.
I agree. At least it's a pro 2nd Amendment show. It could have been a lot worse.
devilinblack
10-22-2009, 07:25 PM
The host is okay, but he really is only given so much to work with.
How exciting is the day to day operation in a gun shop? I'd probably watch it, but your average sheeple won't bother.
Chris M
10-26-2009, 02:45 PM
A reality show about guns, and the people who buy them? WTF ? Yeah I agree it's showtime, but still. What good can come of it really.
Many people, when they hear "Gun owner", will immediately think Law Enforcement or Criminal...maybe Hunter, depending on whether or not they live in the city.
Showing some of these (sheltered) people that there are normal, law-abiding citizens that legally own guns - and have fun shooting - may just get them curious.
I don't have Showtime, but would love to see an episode or two.
cindynles
10-26-2009, 08:17 PM
I agree. Good premise but poor execution.
I hope future episodes get better.
The host is not a professional.
I agree, it was hard to watch and some of it was just down right stupid. I mean the part where he handed everyone in that family a different gun and then took a cell phone picture.......... made me cringe a bit. I hope it gets better.
Carlosa
10-26-2009, 09:24 PM
I saw the first episode last night, and I feel like it might be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
There was a few parts of the show that made me uneasy.
It seems that the crazies seem to hijack the show, and the normal costumers with good reason are presented in a muted irrelevant under the breath sort of way, a good contrast is the man joking about beating their wife's vs the female owner of the construction business that was looking for a conceal gun. I will keep watching but I get the feeling that this show will end up creating more unfounded fears in those that are uneducated an intolerant of our hobby.
Let's hope we don't and up getting shafted by one of our own, the shootist gun store.
By the way that preview of the postal worker asking to purchase an assault weapon is flat out unnerving. Any gun show that promotes calling ar15 and semi-auto aK's assault weapons is NOT pro 2a.*
By the way that preview of the postal worker asking to purchase an assault weapon is flat out unnerving. Any gun show that promotes calling ar15 and semi-auto aK's assault weapons is NOT pro 2a.*
First of all, it's not scripted, so if the postal worker used the words "assault weapons", what are they gonna do? Bleep it? He used those words.
Second, there are states where "assault weapon" is not necessarily a bad word. :D
Carlosa
10-28-2009, 10:26 AM
First of all, it's not scripted, so if the postal worker used the words "assault weapons", what are they gonna do? Bleep it? He used those words.
Second, there are states where "assault weapon" is not necessarily a bad word. :D
I understand it is not scripted, but all of this shows are edited and re-contextualized both to compress the duration of a specific event, and sometimes to manipulate the feelings of the audience. that's one of the reasons why i always felt the term "reality television" is some what misleading.
as for your second comment, i don't personally think any word in itself is a bad word. but i think that that the label "Assault Weapon" does have a very negative connotation. we cannot negate that the word "Assault" used as an adjective to describe any noun implies that the primary purpose of the thing is to victimize. A good example of this is how major national new organizations use the term to describe weapons used in violent crimes whether they fit the true definition or not (how many times have you heard of an SKS referred to as an assault weapon, or someone telling you that assault weapons are being purchased in the parking lots of gun shows).
please don't take my opinion the wrong way, for it is just that.
i see allot of people, here like me, are hoping that maybe this show could help promote positive stereotypes instead of negative ones. i just hope were not disappointed.
SteveMartin
10-28-2009, 11:21 AM
I think the woman shotgunner was a complete setup.
MudCamper
10-28-2009, 01:51 PM
I think the woman shotgunner was a complete setup.
I think you are right. And now that I know that the gun shop guy is an actor, it really makes me wonder where they are going with this. I thought the first episode was a bit slow but mildly entertaining. And it did not have an anti-gun feel at all. But they are advertising it as all "real" people, but that is clearly a lie. Is it all a setup for anti-gun propaganda to come later? OK I better take my tinfoil hat off now...
Carlosa
10-28-2009, 04:23 PM
I think you are right. And now that I know that the gun shop guy is an actor, it really makes me wonder where they are going with this. I thought the first episode was a bit slow but mildly entertaining. And it did not have an anti-gun feel at all. But they are advertising it as all "real" people, but that is clearly a lie. Is it all a setup for anti-gun propaganda to come later? OK I better take my tinfoil hat off now...
lol i agree with you as well.
i might not have been very clear in my original post, but the opinion i was trying to share was that I am not sure what way this show is leaning.
anyway I hope it helps educate people about gun culture.
i think that we could use all the help we can get :)
cheers,
Los.
Electric Factory
10-28-2009, 04:39 PM
Just watched the 2nd installment of Lock & Load and wanted to withold comment until seeing at least two episodes. I'm sorry to say I think the show isn't destined to last past it's first season, second I don't think its done well.
To begin with it isn't at all thought provoking in any general sense that might attract non-gun people. Quite the opposite. At times it was kinda creepy in an unexplainable way. The stores customers fit into narrow catagories roughly ranging from those who'd been robbed to those who are afraid of being robbed and doesn't do much to dispel[ or challenge] basic gun owner stereotypes.
Finally- its just boring. To be honest the show is more about the witty witticisms of the host/ co-owner than anything having to do with the folks coming into the shop and their stories. He isn't a bad guy and seems personable enough, but who cares ? Are we supposed to tune each week in to watch the guy behind the counter make weak puns ?
It seems to me if you're going to launch a new gun show on a cable network in 2009 you ought to start with a strong point of view, any pont of view really.
Even in a gun shop a tv show has to be about something.
MudCamper
10-28-2009, 04:48 PM
OK, his website, http://joshtryan.homestead.com/ explains things a bit. He worked in gunshops "to supplement his family's income for many years".
bombmaster
10-28-2009, 06:57 PM
I think the woman shotgunner was a complete setup.
Absolutely!
Carlosa
10-28-2009, 07:21 PM
Just watched the 2nd installment of Lock & Load and wanted to withold comment until seeing at least two episodes. I'm sorry to say I think the show isn't destined to last past it's first season, second I don't think its done well.
To begin with it isn't at all thought provoking in any general sense that might attract non-gun people. Quite the opposite. At times it was kinda creepy in an unexplainable way. The stores customers fit into narrow catagories roughly ranging from those who'd been robbed to those who are afraid of being robbed and doesn't do much to dispel[ or challenge] basic gun owner stereotypes.
Finally- its just boring. To be honest the show is more about the witty witticisms of the host/ co-owner than anything having to do with the folks coming into the shop and their stories. He isn't a bad guy and seems personable enough, but who cares ? Are we supposed to tune each week in to watch the guy behind the counter make weak puns ?
It seems to me if you're going to launch a new gun show on a cable network in 2009 you ought to start with a strong point of view, any pont of view really.
Even in a gun shop a tv show has to be about something.
I agree 100%.
luchador768
10-28-2009, 11:40 PM
I watched SHowtimes Lock N' Load last night and it was boring as hell. They need to get a new producer in there or something. It was like watching security cameras with good audio. I was hoping for better.
+1 30 min of my life I will never get back again. Plus the fricking "all you need to do is pump the shotgun and the bad guys start running" FUD! Argh!
I watched it. Unfortunately, it is only mildly entertaining. But, I'll watch just about anything having to do with guns.:D
woodey
10-29-2009, 06:32 AM
Look like a good promo, can't wait to see it:D
scidx
10-29-2009, 07:53 PM
Cheesy editing, contemptuous stereotypes, poisonous reiteration of horrible shooting technique, gun store with a lame selection, douche-bag narrator with a cartoonesque used car salesman look and attitude, more ignorant lies and misinformation about personal defense than a knowledgeable gun owner can shake a stick at, inclusion of staged "shooting contests" to which the crappy shooting host loses based on what seems to be very little experience or desire to improve...
Shows like this are the reason troops tell me, "I don't have to shoot the beretta good, cuz a 9mil won't kill anybody. I'll just spray 'em with a shotgun." (which are seldom issued on a daily basis)
OntheRocks
10-29-2009, 10:01 PM
I actually liked it.
I think it is GOOD to show that the typical gun owner does not shave his head and wear camo all the time.
They even had a previous anti-gunner looking to buy a gun now that he has a wife and kid to protect.
dantodd
10-29-2009, 10:16 PM
Shows like this are the reason troops tell me, "I don't have to shoot the beretta good, cuz a 9mil won't kill anybody. I'll just spray 'em with a shotgun." (which are seldom issued on a daily basis)
You sure it's shows like this and not rap music references and video game ballistics?
louscamaro91
10-29-2009, 10:16 PM
Pretty good show. It is good for the gun folks because usually the only media/TV time guns get are only on movies or in the news. So the show basically shows that people who buy guns are just as weird as people who buy jewelry. It could be worse..anything that makes gun people look like everyday people which this show does is a plus in my book.
andrewj
10-29-2009, 10:24 PM
Cheesy editing, contemptuous stereotypes, poisonous reiteration of horrible shooting technique, gun store with a lame selection, douche-bag narrator with a cartoonesque used car salesman look and attitude, more ignorant lies and misinformation about personal defense than a knowledgeable gun owner can shake a stick at, inclusion of staged "shooting contests" to which the crappy shooting host loses based on what seems to be very little experience or desire to improve...
For the most part, :iagree:
But I am still gonna tune in next week:shrug:
scidx
10-30-2009, 04:38 PM
You sure it's shows like this and not rap music references and video game ballistics?
I guess I get tired of numerous shows about guns on History, Military Channel, HistInt, and all the hunting channels that over exaggerate the characteristics. I know those that have a good base in the basics of firearmdom are in a small demographic; but common sense and basic physics should at least be considered when throwing out "facts". Someone once said, "We want our firearms to do amazing feats all the time, in every situation. Sometimes we deny basic laws of nature when considering the capability of our most beloved tools." And that's where the colloquial white lies hangout. In the company of campfire banter.
Quser.619
11-02-2009, 08:59 PM
Does anyone know what type of rifle they showed in the 2nd installation of Showtime's Lock N' Load? It looks similar to a Tavor, w/ the barrel sunk into the rifle itself to shorten the length overall. Looks familiar, but I cannot place it.
G34Shooter
11-03-2009, 06:56 AM
Cheesy editing, contemptuous stereotypes, poisonous reiteration of horrible shooting technique, gun store with a lame selection, douche-bag narrator with a cartoonesque used car salesman look and attitude, more ignorant lies and misinformation about personal defense than a knowledgeable gun owner can shake a stick at, inclusion of staged "shooting contests" to which the crappy shooting host loses based on what seems to be very little experience or desire to improve...
Shows like this are the reason troops tell me, "I don't have to shoot the beretta good, cuz a 9mil won't kill anybody. I'll just spray 'em with a shotgun." (which are seldom issued on a daily basis)
You nailed it :D
jeffsenpai
11-03-2009, 01:34 PM
Is there anywhere to download or see this show online? Dont have cable here.
Shane916
11-03-2009, 02:13 PM
Is there anywhere to download or see this show online? Dont have cable here.
Also interested
glockman19
11-03-2009, 02:20 PM
Also interested
http://www.sho.com/site/video/brightcove/series/title.do?bcpid=18808673001
http://www.sho.com/site/video/brightcove/series/title.do?bcpid=18808673001
Well unfortunately right now they're just showing the trailer.
Don't know when they'll get it on iTunes. I'll check on that.
rstrohbehn
11-05-2009, 08:53 AM
OK,
Here is my problem with the show after last nights 3rd episode. There are at least 3 different times when customers and even the Salesman are pointing a gun at someone else in a joking fashion :eek:.
Ummmmm...This is not cool.
jdogg2000
11-05-2009, 08:56 AM
OK,
Here is my problem with the show after last nights 3rd episode. There are at least 3 different times when customers and even the Salesman are pointing a gun at someone else in a joking fashion :eek:.
Ummmmm...This is not cool.
I noticed that! Doesn't seem to teach the customers about gun safety at all, and finger always seems to be on the trigger too!
Mr Wizard
11-05-2009, 09:34 AM
I watched an episode last night where the "host" goaded a young man into being stunned by his friend with 60,000 volts in front of several customers, then laughing at him. Funny? of course, but not a good example of responsible ownership. Then the camera cut to the host asking a tattooed Italian "biker type" about his pentagram tattoos.
It was interesting to see them blowing up things in the desert , but as stated before they showed too many clips of customers pointing AK's and AR's at each other in the store.
If this is meant as a pro-gun reality show, they can only hurt our image, not help.
lomalinda
11-05-2009, 09:51 AM
I'm not too keen on the show, either. On the one hand, it's great to see anything on TV about regular people buying guns, especially for those who live in CA and don't have much exposure to firearms. But the idiots that come into the shop don't represent the gun owners I know, and provide the Anti's with plenty of stereotype support should they choose to sample from the show.
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