View Full Version : Vulcan Lowers and out of state travel

09-15-2005, 12:00 PM
I have a question for the great minds on this forum. http://www.calguns.net/bow.gif
If I were to purchase a Vulcan lower and build it up could I, if possable remove the pin holding the mag in place when I was out of state and replace it before I came back?
Would this violate any laws that you can think of?
Has anybody had to remove the mag From a Vulcan and replace it? Can it be done with out distroying the lower?
Is there any restrictions on what can be put on one of these lowers as far as "pre ban" "post ban"

Thanks in advance for all the interesting answers I am sure I will get on this http://calguns.net/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

09-15-2005, 12:48 PM

If doing this (and returning to original status) while out of state, you'd be legal.

Some folks here I think have twiddled w/Vulcan lower. The attachment of the mag is not as 'permanent' as it would seem - there's a hidden blind pin/roll pin and adhesive. Others can fill you in on exact details. I was surprised DOJ approved this, but as receiver is not on Roster of AR15 and AK Series Weapons the DOJ itself may be able to hide behind Harrott v Kings County decision too.

Federal 'preban' and 'postban' status is no longer in effect due to Fed AW Ban sunset in Sept 2004, and the concepts embodied in these terms are not relevant for California's differing assault weapons ban.

The Vulcan and FAB10 "CA-legal" lowers do not have detachable/hicap magazines and can thus take any other 'evil feature' like flash hider, collapsible stock, bayonet lug, etc. (Just not grenade launcher). Make sure the upper you put on this rifle has a 16" or longer barrel to stay out of short-barrel rifle territory.

Bill Wiese
San Jose

09-15-2005, 12:58 PM
There are many opinions.......no firm answers. The "legal" way is to remove it out of state and re-pin it before returning. The mag can be replaced. Replace it with a Bushmaster 10rd. and you will be very happy.....as happy as one could be with a pinned in mag. It is an easy job if you have the tools. I have heard of people using set screws instead of the roll pin for those out of state trips. That idea is probably pushing the limit or at least my own personal limit.

09-15-2005, 6:26 PM
Thanks for the answers so far. I hope this works because I have plenty of normal cap mags to shoot out of state just no gun to shoot them through. ( I kept the mags and traded the gun off years ago, didn't have the cash to buy one before the ban hit http://www.calguns.net/banghead.gif hindsite being 20-20)